Wilder is making a big mistake not fighting Joshua now

Yup, Ruiz stole it from Wilder. Enjoy that fight Wilder fans but Ruiz got it 1st. Ruiz is the man Good insight OP It really sucks because Wilder vs Joshua was gaining a lot of attention and building up to be a big fight. It now went back to square one. It was most likely going to be the biggest fight next year. Oh well.

Yup, Ruiz stole it from Wilder. Enjoy that fight Wilder fans but Ruiz got it 1st. Ruiz is the man Good insight OP

Good call but Hearn messed up AJ big time from how he handled the negotiations the 1st time to mess up in his America debut Honestly he should leave him and go with Bob arum Yeah, the fight could've been made sooner. But oh well. Both sides decided to reject each other at one point or another. Wilder now has Ortiz II and Fury II, and beyond that who knows. Maybe he can fight Joshua if he can beat Ruiz in the rematch. But to make it interesting again, AJ needs to beat Ruiz in impressive fashion. Like demolish him, be real ready for him next time, don't overlook him. Come back with much better conditioning, be prepared to finish off Ruiz if he hurts him, while also working on his defense while on the attack. That's where Ruiz caught him. Joshua going for the kill, got caught.

Good call but Hearn messed up AJ big time from how he handled the negotiations the 1st time to mess up in his America debut Honestly he should leave him and go with Bob arum

With AJ's chin, he's eventually going to fight someone who's going to put him down for good. The signs on his chin are all there, 41 year old Wlad put him down pretty hard. Someone else is going to get that victory because Wilder is playing the marinating game. Happens all the time and this is Heavyweight, where one punch can change everything, even when facing a journeyman who seemingly doesn't stand a chance. There's also a chance that Wilder, having a really great chin but poor boxing skills, can get outboxed himself by someone who's technically better than him and can take his monstrous punches (or can avoid them). How soon your words rang true.

Wilder missed out.

Wlad is one of the hardest punchers in boxing history. The fact he got up is a credit to him. Wlad, was tired than a motherfucker when he landed that right hand on Anthony Joshua in the sixth round. You saw how he lacked both the stamina and the energy to put him away afterwards.

Wlad is one of the hardest punchers in boxing history. The fact he got up is a credit to him. Wlad was still good but no longer had the punching power of the 2000s-mid 2010s. A couple of guys had survived 12 with him prior to that. Joshua got caught hard by a 40 year old Wlad who hadn’t caught anyone like that in years, and he had a 2 year layoff and came back to go 11 rounds and hold his own.

Wlad is one of the hardest punchers in boxing history. The fact he got up is a credit to him. Wlad is old, slow and couldn't pull the trigger anymore. Very little credit beating past it old men and having to go life and death to get it done.

Harold Sconiers and Dustin Nichols. Wlad also moped the floor with him, but that was in sparring. No way. Never knew that. Not suprised prime Wlad dealt with a green Wilder though.

I agree. Though I think Fury is the only guy that would beat either of them, it’s still a big risk to take and both can be beat. I’m sure they would still fight eventually even if one or both lost, but later this year is the perfect time. No need to wait anymore

The organizing bodies will sanction it

If you take a massive shot from a top heavyweight, you're out. It's the next category that matters. It's your reaction when you get 'buzzed'. I thought Joshua against Klitschko looked like a guy who hadn't really experienced that before. He showed everyone exactly how ****ed up he was. He did have the smarts to go defensive and get his wits back though. Wilder was similar against Ortiz. His body language changed completely and he told Ortiz he was in trouble. Again he just about made things scruffy enough to get through the round - though Ortiz really made a mess of trying to finish him. Both will be better for surviving a knock. I'd be more worried about their chins if they'd never been buzzed.

AJ is a better boxer than Wilder with big power. AJ handles wilder no problem.

Who dropped Wilder? That's a genuine question I never knew he'd been down as a pro. I know Molina rocked him, Stiverne buzzed him, Ortiz obviously. Who else? Harold Sconiers and Dustin Nichols. Wlad also moped the floor with him, but that was in sparring.

Wilder and Joshua's chins are about the same. Joshua's is more tested. Yes, he was down vs Klitschko but that straight right hand would flatten every HW, Wilder included. It was a monster punch. Ortiz had Wilder on a queer street and he doesn't hit nearly as hard as Klitschko. Not to mention the extra time to recover he got in the following round. Or the fact that Wilder has been down 2 times already in his career. Who dropped Wilder? That's a genuine question I never knew he'd been down as a pro. I know Molina rocked him, Stiverne buzzed him, Ortiz obviously. Who else?

Wilder's chin great? How so? He's been rocked like what? 4 or 5 times? Got stopped as an amateur I think. Definitely not the signs of a great chin.

Wilder holding up fight is benefiting josh. I don't think wilder knows what he's up to. Why not fight Josh now before his prime which is when wilder wants josh?

With AJ's chin, he's eventually going to fight someone who's going to put him down for good. The signs on his chin are all there, 41 year old Wlad put him down pretty hard. Someone else is going to get that victory because Wilder is playing the marinating game. Happens all the time and this is Heavyweight, where one punch can change everything, even when facing a journeyman who seemingly doesn't stand a chance. There's also a chance that Wilder, having a really great chin but poor boxing skills, can get outboxed himself by someone who's technically better than him and can take his monstrous punches (or can avoid them). I agree they should fight next but they will not. I think the sides have decided they are going to do this in 2020. Wilder should fight him next because Wilder has been getting stunned by guys that IMO don't hit as hard as AJ even though he has KO wins. This is HWT boxing and each fight is dangerous. I frankly don't care to see Wilder/Ortiz 2 or AJ/Whyte 2. I think both are a waste of time. The danger of facing Kowacki and Usyk is they could make Wilder and AJ look bad or even push both. The fight loses a little steam unless both dominate.

Wilder barely survived a 50 year old Ortiz punching him. One punch from AJ and Wilder is finished, just like Wlad was once AJ touched him.