Canelo doesn't "marinate." You have to respect that.

What an apologist.

For the most part I agree with you but lets be honest, not only did he marinate the GGG fight, he then cheated to marinate the rematch. I think DAZN will not allow him to that going forward. He didn't marinate the GGG fight. He simply dropped the belt because the WBC was pressuring him to negotiate a deal in a short time, while he and De La Hoya were appearing in court. You know how I feel about the cheating claim. To me Canelo had a legit explanation for why clenbuterol was found in his system. To imply that he cheated on purpose AND planned to get caught in order to delay the fight? That's just going too far and reaching too much on your part, bro.

He just fights anybody and everybody. That is refreshing in a world where everyone else is trying to artificially pump up the public's demand for fights. For the most part I agree with you but lets be honest, not only did he marinate the GGG fight, he then cheated to marinate the rematch. I think DAZN will not allow him to that going forward.

Clenelo ducked Golovkin for 2 years so he marinate.

Jesus christ, Mexican fighters have their dick so far down your throat you can't see anything else. I'm done, it's clear you are a complete moron. I also guarantee I am: a) Better in boxing than you b) In better shape than you c) More intelligent Let me know when the dicks out your mouth, *****. You are a moron, I proven that GGG thrown a lot of punches and had a great waste of energy in the rematch , thats a prove that he was in great shape like in the fight against Murray. 1-you don't know sh.it about boxing, the same Abel and Sánchez said that they were in prime. 2-You are a fat and stu.pid fat ass nerd. 3-you are not, you does not have common sense

I.d.i.o.t The examples.of other fighters is because there are a lot of fighters with more of 38 years that are in their primes and already beat world class opposition. GGG had a soft career, never was hurted and was in complete shape. About your stats. You are fu.cking stupid because you are forgetting that Golovkin was moving a lot around the ring in the second fight against Canelo and they requires a lot of energy And he took the more punishment ever in his cwreerz with sick body punches, and he still thrown a great amount of punches. Murray is a flat footed fighter, B class bum, is easy to hit, thats the reason why GGG thrown more power punches, he did not need move around like he did in the first fight wiht Canelo You does not have brain, and you go to deny this . And stop with your sh.it. You don't know what amaunt of punches GGG would to throw in the second round Generally in the last round fighters thrown less punches than the 9.10.11 rounds. Ok. You are speculating about Márquez. Man, i know about training and it's possible with hard work and a special training camp. You are forgetting than Márquez Lost a lot of speed in that fight, that was the reason why he was near to be K.O'd before the K.O He trained to gain power, nothing more, mixed with his timing they were looking to K.O Pacquiao because they know it was impossible to win in scorecards. And they did it. You are a poor i.dio.t, surely a fat boy with an ugly ass that never trained in his whole life. So, Márquez was in PEDs because you think is impossible to gain muscle and power at 40 years old Lol Márquez always trained like a beast Surely you are a idi.ot that still thinking that was a lucky punch Jesus christ, Mexican fighters have their dick so far down your throat you can't see anything else. I'm done, it's clear you are a complete moron. I also guarantee I am: a) Better in boxing than you b) In better shape than you c) More intelligent Let me know when the dicks out your mouth, *****.

What kind of ****ing idiot uses another fighter to establish a fighter being in their prime? Fighters age differently, and even then, Rigondeaux and Donaire are not Marquez or Pacquiao. Jesus christ, your stupidity makes me do a double-take. LMAO, HOW STUPID ARE YOU? This is LITERALLY, basic math. :lol1: Golovkin had 5:10 remaining in the Murray fight when he stopped Murray. The Canelo fight went all 12 rounds. SIMPLE MATH (which anyone with a brain could do) tells us that Golovkin was on pace of 953 punches in the Murray fight. That's 84 more punches if your infinitesimally small brain can do simple arithmetic. SECONDLY, Golovkin in the Murray fight threw 524 power punches. Golovkin in the 2nd Canelo fight threw 332 power punches. Anyone with a brain knows throwing a power punch is more taxing (anyone that has a brain, anyways). So not only was Golovkin throwing a higher rate of punches in the Murray fight, but he was also throwing a lot more power punches. Just stop, dude. You already showed you don't possess simple logic, now you're showing me you don't know anything about sports/nutrition/dieting. You're a couch potato, aren't you? LOL. You must not know that building muscle is a long process, LOL. You serious expect a guy who's been professionally training his entire life (basically) to suddenly get the most ripped he has ever been in his entire career, and at a lower bodyfat, at the age of 39? LOL, that's hilarious. NEWSFLASH: it gets harder to build muscle and keep the fat off once you start hitting your 30s, especially your later 30s. Pacquiao Marquez 4: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9WdjCTG0r5U/maxresdefault.jpg Here's Marquez at the fight against Fedchenko (prior to the Pacquiao 4 fight): https://www.boxingscene.com/uploads/51744/Juan_Marquez-_Fedchenko6.jpg So you're literally saying, Marquez lost fat and gained muscle mass in the 8-months between Fedchenko and Pacquiao-4 and got the most ripped he has ever been in his entire career? :lol1: Because Marquez was heavier at the weigh-in against Pacquiao, and more ripped, compared to the Fedchenko bout. And no, Pacquiao was not in his prime at the age of 34. Every professional athletes physical prime is always going to be in their 20s. It's such a simple concept, but the sad fact you know **** about sports is pathetic. Sprinters peak around their early-mid 20s. Here's a scientific study if you can even understand it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3928819/ You stupid ****, GO LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU MOUTH OFF. I.d.i.o.t The examples.of other fighters is because there are a lot of fighters with more of 38 years that are in their primes and already beat world class opposition. GGG had a soft career, never was hurted and was in complete shape. About your stats. You are fu.cking stupid because you are forgetting that Golovkin was moving a lot around the ring in the second fight against Canelo and they requires a lot of energy And he took the more punishment ever in his cwreerz with sick body punches, and he still thrown a great amount of punches. Murray is a flat footed fighter, B class bum, is easy to hit, thats the reason why GGG thrown more power punches, he did not need move around like he did in the first fight wiht Canelo You does not have brain, and you go to deny this . And stop with your sh.it. You don't know what amaunt of punches GGG would to throw in the second round Generally in the last round fighters thrown less punches than the 9.10.11 rounds. Ok. You are speculating about Márquez. Man, i know about training and it's possible with hard work and a special training camp. You are forgetting than Márquez Lost a lot of speed in that fight, that was the reason why he was near to be K.O'd before the K.O He trained to gain power, nothing more, mixed with his timing they were looking to K.O Pacquiao because they know it was impossible to win in scorecards. And they did it. You are a poor i.dio.t, surely a fat boy with an ugly ass that never trained in his whole life. So, Márquez was in PEDs because you think is impossible to gain muscle and power at 40 years old Lol Márquez always trained like a beast Surely you are a idi.ot that still thinking that was a lucky punch

he created the 155 lb weight class and avoided golovkin for several years. GBP waited for golovkin to look older and took the fight once he did.

Rigondeaux had like 37 when he schooled Donaire What kind of ****ing idiot uses another fighter to establish a fighter being in their prime? Fighters age differently, and even then, Rigondeaux and Donaire are not Marquez or Pacquiao. Jesus christ, your stupidity makes me do a double-take. GGG thrown 869 punches in the rematch Hahahahahahaha i.d.i.o.t ! He thrown the same amount of punches against Murray. LMAO, HOW STUPID ARE YOU? This is LITERALLY, basic math. :lol1: Golovkin had 5:10 remaining in the Murray fight when he stopped Murray. The Canelo fight went all 12 rounds. SIMPLE MATH (which anyone with a brain could do) tells us that Golovkin was on pace of 953 punches in the Murray fight. That's 84 more punches if your infinitesimally small brain can do simple arithmetic. SECONDLY, Golovkin in the Murray fight threw 524 power punches. Golovkin in the 2nd Canelo fight threw 332 power punches. Anyone with a brain knows throwing a power punch is more taxing (anyone that has a brain, anyways). So not only was Golovkin throwing a higher rate of punches in the Murray fight, but he was also throwing a lot more power punches. Márquez and Pacquiao PED users? First you talk about objectivity and look what you are saying. Can you prove with facts that Márquez was a PED user? Márquez is way better than GGG Pacquiao was in prime at 34. Just stop, dude. You already showed you don't possess simple logic, now you're showing me you don't know anything about sports/nutrition/dieting. You're a couch potato, aren't you? LOL. You must not know that building muscle is a long process, LOL. You serious expect a guy who's been professionally training his entire life (basically) to suddenly get the most ripped he has ever been in his entire career, and at a lower bodyfat, at the age of 39? LOL, that's hilarious. NEWSFLASH: it gets harder to build muscle and keep the fat off once you start hitting your 30s, especially your later 30s. Pacquiao Marquez 4: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9WdjCTG0r5U/maxresdefault.jpg Here's Marquez at the fight against Fedchenko (prior to the Pacquiao 4 fight): https://www.boxingscene.com/uploads/51744/Juan_Marquez-_Fedchenko6.jpg So you're literally saying, Marquez lost fat and gained muscle mass in the 8-months between Fedchenko and Pacquiao-4 and got the most ripped he has ever been in his entire career? :lol1: Because Marquez was heavier at the weigh-in against Pacquiao, and more ripped, compared to the Fedchenko bout. And no, Pacquiao was not in his prime at the age of 34. Every professional athletes physical prime is always going to be in their 20s. It's such a simple concept, but the sad fact you know **** about sports is pathetic. Sprinters peak around their early-mid 20s. Here's a scientific study if you can even understand it: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3928819/ For many elite athletes, maturation occurs ‘early’ and peak performance may be attained in the late teens, whereas ‘later maturers’ will not reach peak performance capacity until the mid- to late twenties. Regardless of the age at which peak performance is attained, most elite athletes begin to show some decline in performance by their early thirties (Figures 5 & 6). You stupid ****, GO LEARN SOMETHING BEFORE YOU MOUTH OFF.

It's very refreshing to have a fighter that doesn't duck anyone or fail drug tests You are talking about Dereck Chisora and Austin Trout, not Canelo.

He doesnt need to fight the likes of Vanes & Steve Rolls either 😂

That is such a lame excuse. Canelo is the more popular and known fighter, by far. The vast majority of boxers had Golovkin winning. It's not even close. Those same fighters (or many of them) were still willing to switch to Canelo winning the second fight. You're biased as ****, is the problem. You'll never see anything other than your Mexican fighters (hence your username LOL) winning in a close fight. Deluded and making excuses cause you're irrational. Let me guess, everyone is a hater--- boxers included? That's a lame excuse. Golovkin is not even a ****ing American, but again, the vast majority of boxers from countries outside of him and Canelo's home agree he won the first fight. And Floyd is not Canelo, nobody cares about your comparison. So ****ing what? Pacquiao was 34 years old, and both men are notorious PED users. Besides, neither was in their prime at that point, anyways. No...? Golovkin threw 816 punches against Murray in 11 rounds--- and he was barely 30-40 seconds into round 11 when Murray got stopped. Golovkin threw a total of around 700 punches against Canelo in the first fight. Nowhere near the same, and even if you compared the second GGG-Canelo fight, still lower than the number of punches thrown against Murray. Bi.tch, you are stu.pid and ignorant. I will teach you... GGG thrown 869 punches in the rematch Hahahahahahaha i.d.i.o.t ! He thrown the same amount of punches against Murray. Márquez and Pacquiao PED users? First you talk about objectivity and look what you are saying. Can you prove with facts that Márquez was a PED user? Márquez is way better than GGG Pacquiao was in prime at 34. Rigondeaux had like 37 when he schooled Donaire GGG was in his prime, period. What fighters said means sh.it Spence, Andrade, and Márquez said that Canelo Lost against Jacobs. And? Spence and Andrade are Friends of Jacobs, Márquez hates Canelo The draw was fair. Golovkin missed 1000 fu.cking punches against Canelo in both fights. He did not do anything great in the first fight, he barely landed one good punch and was missed a lot In the rematch Canelo whooped his ugly ass. Thats the reality, does not care what people say I said that Rungvisai won the first fight against Estrada and Estrada is my favorite fighter I said that Floyd won the first fight against Castillo when all the world said Castillo won I said that Román González won the fight against Estrada , but Juan was drained and went down 4 pounds to fight with Román and then he ducked Juan in Flyweight when both were champions I said that Márquez Lost against Bradley is a close fight I said that Márquez Lost against Pacquiao in the second fight , another close.fight Sh.ut the fu.ck up, clown. Canelo is popular but is one of the most hated fighters in all the world Media and press always are talking sh.it GGG.is a puss.y , press and media never talks about his soft career, he is a mercenary, he fought with 4009 bums, never was dominant against Jacobs or Nelo Never had the balls to fight with Ward Never took risks And.nobody talks about this

Exactly, thats my point GGG always had a soft career Extremely soft First Big battle was against Jacobs, then Canelo... And nothing more Aren't you neglecting the long and very successful amateur career?

Means sh.it what "Vast majority of boxing pundits and fans" said Most.of them are haters, according to those jerk, Floyd is not undefeated. Lol That is such a lame excuse. Canelo is the more popular and known fighter, by far. The vast majority of boxers had Golovkin winning. It's not even close. Those same fighters (or many of them) were still willing to switch to Canelo winning the second fight. You're biased as ****, is the problem. You'll never see anything other than your Mexican fighters (hence your username LOL) winning in a close fight. Deluded and making excuses cause you're irrational. Let me guess, everyone is a hater--- boxers included? That's a lame excuse. Golovkin is not even a ****ing American, but again, the vast majority of boxers from countries outside of him and Canelo's home agree he won the first fight. And Floyd is not Canelo, nobody cares about your comparison. Márquez K.Od Pacquiao at 40 years old So ****ing what? Pacquiao was 34 years old, and both men are notorious PED users. Besides, neither was in their prime at that point, anyways. And he thrown the same amount of punches against Canelo and Murray (2013). No...? Golovkin threw 816 punches against Murray in 11 rounds--- and he was barely 30-40 seconds into round 11 when Murray got stopped. Golovkin threw a total of around 700 punches against Canelo in the first fight. Nowhere near the same, and even if you compared the second GGG-Canelo fight, still lower than the number of punches thrown against Murray.

Canelo won the middleweight belt against Cotto at 155. And the WBC tried to impose a short negotiation period on him to come to terms with Golovkin, when he was in the middle of a court appearance. That's the reason he dropped the belt and made them wait. Not because he was trying to marinate a bigger payday. except that he didnt drop the belt straight away, he fought Amir Khan next with the WBC belt still on the line. Had he dropped the belts straight after beating Cotto then you would have a point but he tried to hold the belt for as long as possible until he was publicly forced to hand over the belts rather than fight GGG. That's a duck

So Canelo didnt have belts at 160 at the time? And GGG wasnt his mandatory right? Canelo won the middleweight belt against Cotto at 155. And the WBC tried to impose a short negotiation period on him to come to terms with Golovkin, when he was in the middle of a court appearance. That's the reason he dropped the belt and made them wait. Not because he was trying to marinate a bigger payday.

How do you duck someone that isn't in your weight class? So Canelo didnt have belts at 160 at the time? And GGG wasnt his mandatory right?

Lmao @ claiming a 34 year old is a boxer in their prime. Yeah, we all saw that first fight--- where the vast majority of boxing pundits and fans agreed Golovkin should have won that fight. Means sh.it what "Vast majority of boxing pundits and fans" said Most.of them are haters, according to those jerk, Floyd is not undefeated. Lol Márquez K.Od Pacquiao at 40 years old GGG always had a soft career Without risks, without battles And he thrown the same amount of punches against Canelo and Murray (2013). So?

Copying Floyd with 152 is all day errrday! Looking forward to him challenging Kovalev at a catch weight of 169, and people calling Kov a coward for wanting to fight at the LHW limit.

Golovkin fought the top fighters in the Middleweight division. He didn't weight restrict anyone. Like I said if Canelo can't play but the rules of the sanctioning bodies at Middleweight then move back down and fight at Canelo weight. I can see guys taking the odd fight above their division limit when they are starting out but this guy is making a career out of weight restrictions. There's no use. Canelo fans think that fighting at 160 for the MW title is a weight restriction. He has a fake 168 trinket, but he's just a little blown up welterweight!