What happened to boxing fans?

Thanks man. I'm not sure we have a gym here anymore. Sadly. But I have sparred with friends and stuff a long time ago and I did beat all of them. Not bragging at all. They knew nothing about the sport. But yeah. I'm sure the best experience is first hand. My bro and I talk boxing and spar now and then. It's a lot of fun but I don't get to do it enough. I'm sure you're right though. Experience is the best teacher. I'll try to spar him the next time I see him and I'll look into the boxing gym. May get my ass kicked. Haha. But I'm sure I would learn from it. Thanks for the post! Yeah I mean get coached by someone who knows what their doing and then spar people who know what there doing, and if after a while you get a knack for it have some local fights Sparring in your garage with your brother/friends might be fun, but for most people it can be like picking up a golf club without proper coaching, ill-advised

Thank your hero Mayweather for all that your complaining for in your opening post That's the first thing that comes to my mind. lmao.

Exactly, man. I've been impressed with several fighters over the years but I don't always understand what's happening in the ring. Maybe I can't understand all of it, but I'd like to be more knowledgable than I am. Would make it much more interesting. I try to think about what each man is doing and thinking in there from one second to the next. Every fight truly is different. And I see like, zero posts on here about technique or the technical side. I have seen some vids on YT that walk you through a fight. Pretty cool stuff. As a boxing fan, I like to watch any fight, honestly. That's what it's all about. Hell, I can discuss business and politics anywhere. Ha. Yer I love them you tube vids explaining what's going on in the ring. Oh well let's hope it just a flash in the pan with the business talk. Fingers crossed. You guys would learn so much by getting down to your local boxing gym and eventually sparring once you get down the basics...it opens your eyes like nothing else can. I don't box any more but I did in my early 20s and once you do you start seeing so much more of what's going on and many more subtle things. If you have time in your life, this is what id recommend, its the hardest thing youll do, but its rewarding when you start to get it, and it's great for fitness too

Exactly, man. I've been impressed with several fighters over the years but I don't always understand what's happening in the ring. Maybe I can't understand all of it, but I'd like to be more knowledgable than I am. Would make it much more interesting. I try to think about what each man is doing and thinking in there from one second to the next. Every fight truly is different. And I see like, zero posts on here about technique or the technical side. I have seen some vids on YT that walk you through a fight. Pretty cool stuff. As a boxing fan, I like to watch any fight, honestly. That's what it's all about. Hell, I can discuss business and politics anywhere. Ha. Yer I love them you tube vids explaining what's going on in the ring. Oh well let's hope it just a flash in the pan with the business talk. Fingers crossed.

This is true. And I'm pretty ignorant on the subject myself. I'd like to learn from folks who do, though. Really, it's all about the actual fights. If they aren't good, then who cares about the business side? Trying to do more threads about the technical side. A knockout shot looks great but how was it set up and so forth? Might be nice to just pick a KO and ask how did the winner set this up and what led up to it, etc? I feel the same. I admit I'm a late newbie to boxing and would much rather learn about the sweet science of boxing from alot of knowledgeable posters instead of this business crap. It's why I don't post as much cause it's not about boxing per sa.

It is because talking about the business of boxing is an easy subject to talk about Most fans dont know about technical aspects of boxing Right. It’s prize fighting afterall. It’s always been about the money, weight. Numbers are tangible, that’s why we love talking about them. Every single number u can apply to a boxing match sure matters to fighters and promoters and service providers. We apply numbers to height and reach, wins, losses, PPV buys. While two fighters are arguing over getting the numbers right for years before they fight, we’re naturally gonna chime in. We’re no experts but every promoter says the other guy is a moron and are way off on the split.

This is also a good point Motha****a did make a good point

If it's preventing fights we should talk about it The only thing that has ever prevented a fight is the fighter making a decision not to do it. Whatever reasons they cite for that decision are personal. A-side/B-side is kid games for grownups. When a fight is on the public's mind everyone involved is gonna make plenty of money. A-side/B-side is promoters trying to screw someone out of a fair share, period. In an ideal world all fights would be 50/50 on what they generate. Network & promotion 33% Fighters split 67% at 50/50. No network? = 50/50 split. Stops all the bs. Also, networks should not be allowed to "sign" fighters. They should bid on fights to show them, each fight individually.

When did boxing fans start caring about who is the"A-SIDE" , ticket sales and gate numbers?? why does any of that concern us at all? Seems like all the threads and discussion these days are arguing over promotional companies and networks and which is better. We hardly ever get discussions over skill level and tactics that we think can be used for a fighter to win. Are boxing fans now becoming business men? I never did, cuz.

Well if fighters and fans accepted what each brings to the table and just got on with it, we wouldn't have this problem. But when delusion and nationalism comes into it, shlt goes crazy. People thinking a Wilder who doesn't even sell tickets nor generate much money is worth 50/50 against a guy who brings in a shlt ton of money and sells a lot of tickets, are nothing but delusional and crazy. Get rid of most Americans on here, then you'll see sanity reign. But with them, just f3cked up levels of madness will continue.

I've talked about this over & over & I believe it comes down to the big fights not happening often enough that us hardcore fans have started talking more & more about how the sausage is made type topics. If we had high profile pickem fights going on month in, month out, year in, year out then I suspect that sh^t wouldn't get talked about as much or we'd be talking about the actual boxing more anyway. But I mean look at the current schedule of notable fights & the odds on those fights. (May) ESPN BJS (-5000) vs Isufi (+2000) DAZN Taylor (-570) vs Ivan Baranchyk (+435) DAZN Inoue (-850) vs Rodriguez (+575) Showtime Wilder (-940) vs Breazeale (+620) Showtime GRJ (-4500) vs Martinez (+1800) (June) DAZN Joshua (-3000) vs Ruiz (+1500) DAZN GGG (-5500) vs Rolls (+2200) DAZN Briedis (-300) vs Glowacki (+250) DAZN Dorticos (-300) vs Tabiti (+240) ESPN Fury (-3600) vs Schwarz (+1800) (July) DAZN? Whyte (-550) vs Rivas (+400) Fox?/Showtime? Thurman (-135) vs Pacquiao (+115) Wtf we supposed to be talking about when most of these fights aren't really close fights that people see as 50/50ish & in some cases don't even see as competitive? We ain't got a high profile pickem type fight til Thurman vs Pacquiao in 9ish weeks from now ffs. And idk that people are exactly falling over themselves in excitement for that since Thurman ain't look that good at points last time out & Manny could play his father in a movie about himself at this point in his life.this is a good post.

Larry this is litteraly what you did for Floyd

Most fans nowadays are fans of promoters or networks and not the fighter. The fighter switched promoters and now they like them. Mahotor City Cobra is the perfect example. Bashing DAZN and Top Rank. Right now is the best time to be a fan. Multiple cards in the USA every weekend. Instead of of hating should be embracing.

When did boxing fans start caring about who is the"A-SIDE" , ticket sales and gate numbers?? why does any of that concern us at all? Seems like all the threads and discussion these days are arguing over promotional companies and networks and which is better. We hardly ever get discussions over skill level and tactics that we think can be used for a fighter to win. Are boxing fans now becoming business men? The "boxing fans" you speak of are nothing but losers who make everyone look bad because they vicariously live through the people they watch. Even yourself man. Be honest. Dont tell me that you were so "upset" when people just screamed Canelo is the A side. Or Joshua is the A side. Blah blah. And dont even get mad. That's the truth. If you cant handle the truth dont ask dumb ass questions. All of you guys just play games. Race games. Favorite fighter games. Trolling games. To top it off you never and all these other people never call anyone out for making them look like ****. So many classes people here who know absolute **** about boxing. I'm a big Lomachenko fan and GGG fan and I feel I'm very objective. But how do you have a real conversation when all you f.ucks are like hehe, mr. 97k. GGGtards. L0m0. **** like that? Tell me dude. Let's analyze those two objectively and they are some of the best boxers of this era. The problem is they ain't black, or Mexican, or British, or American. Nah, they're the hated eastern euros who are nothing but bums. They're also the biggest rivals to some of your own favorite fighters so you hate them regardless and refuse to acknowledge anything they do. Take Mikey Garcia for example. Some of you guys are just completely dumb as **** for even giving him a chance. The best shot he had was a punchers chance but for days and weeks and weeks some of the people were nothing but a cancer. Did you call them out? I know I did. Who the **** in their right mind picks a lightweight moving up 2 classes who has no outstanding attributes and expects him to dethrone someone who is bigger, stronger, and faster than himself? And serious dude. If you're just trolling gtfoh

When did boxing fans start caring about who is the"A-SIDE" , ticket sales and gate numbers?? why does any of that concern us at all? Seems like all the threads and discussion these days are arguing over promotional companies and networks and which is better. We hardly ever get discussions over skill level and tactics that we think can be used for a fighter to win. Are boxing fans now becoming business men? Well, it doesn't help that the boxers themselves are becoming businessmen https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/deontay-wilder%20(33)_1.jpg

Floyd. Yet another reason I'm not a huge fan of his, even though I respect him as the greatest fighter of his generation. Plus, as I say again, once we took boxing off of television in America, we took it out of the hands of the real fans who love the sport and put it into the hands of the cynical and greedy only. We don't see our favorite fighters on TV enough to talk about their technique and victories now, so the cynical and greedy fans just count other cats pockets.

Well i've said many times, Most of the fans that loved the sport cause of the competition left, all theres left in boxing, least in America is fanboys

But intuitively nsb knows what's what. It is just that people do not know how to articulate thoughts or dont take time to think about how to because they find talking about technical aspects as boxing as boring If you look at polls , nsb is usually right I remember broner vs maidana , nsb poll was 50-50 whereas sportsbook had maidana 4 to 1 underdog

You spent years caring about and debating it when Floyd was the top name in the sport but now it doesn't matter? All that time saying Pac should take a flat fee Vs Floyd because Floyd was the A side? All the time saying GGG should take a flat fee because Canelo was the A side? Did you get proved wrong so many times you're taking a knee on the subject? Maybe just say that instead of acting like you're above that kind of talk or a better kind of boxing fan Bolded part: You have a good point here. I'm not defending Larry. Your post is great. What I wanna add is that people change and develop. People mature out of things. The level of business talk here, instead of boxing talk, is crazy man. Maybe that's what Larry is getting to. Cheers man, and didn't mean to butt in.

It all started when Haymon and Floyd rescued the sport from the Jews and gave the power back to the athletes. Haymon is a dirty tranny****er.