not at all. U played amateur account again. You made up the amounts Floyd lift on his bets and his returns on his investments with no clue. You dodo believe he isn’t taxed at the higher rate with no clue what his tax write offs are.
Most of his big purchases like luxury cars jewelry clothes etc he can’t write off.
You also made up foreign tv and gate amounts for Pac Broner greatly inflating them yet make up more numbers to deflate Crawford-Khan foreign tv and gate. See what u are going is called being a hypocrite
Luxury items don't mean **** when you're buying retail property for business or buying up hotels and actual real estate or locking up your money in annuities, lol. Follow the hard money assets you fool.
https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-broner-produces-6-million-gate-11410-tickets-sold--135791
$6m gate on just under 11500 tickets sold.
Buys were said to be 400k homes in the US, and we have no idea still what the ITV deal was worth.
Crawford-Khan **** the bed on PPV, apparently **** the bed for the live event, and not you want to argue that the foreign money somehow covered the losses? Gtfoh
Haymon has a undergrad degree and an MBA from Harvard. He has been successful promoting concerts with a litany of top stars and turned Floyd into the biggest grossing fighter in the sport's history.
PBC is a financially successful venture that just got long term deals from 2 TV networks. My guess is Haymon got the money from the profits from his business ventures or the initial investment from Waddell and Reed.
Bob is just a cheap prick.
Haymon has DEEP investors thats how
Haymon paid off Pacmans back taxes so he could step foot back in the us, remember Arum said good luck to Haymon to try to get Pacman back in the US with all the taxes he owes well Haymon paid those off for him
Arum is a straight up snake, he was the guy spewing lies about Pac being scared of needles and held the fight back, he wanted to milk Manny because he had no faith in him if Manny were to lose to Floyd he didnt want to take the chance so he milked the hell outta Manny for years even trying to get him to lose to Bradley to transfer the star power but it back fired and then getting knocked cold by Marquez.
At least with this fight Pacman gets knocked out by Thurman he will leave with 20 million, I heard Arum tell Manny he could only pay him 3 million guarantee for Crawford and some upside for 7 million what a greedy SOb after all Pac has done for that dude.
"not sure why it bothers u so much"-clear sign you have no argument or nothing to contribute
this is right up there with guys who say "i dunno why you care so much about someones opinion on a message board" when theyre quoting you and and replying to you ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!! yes this actually happens...its a sight to see really...guy telling me this cause he has nothing to say of relevance....ok dude why are you worried about my opinion then? lolthank you. I’m very grateful that my post was that important to you that you took the time to write a 3 paragraph answer to my post. I’m cry thankful that you spend your days waiting for and reading my posts. Muchas gracias!
Why wouldn't I have a portfolio, lol? Not my fault that you're not sharp enough to look after you're own future.
Whether they lost money or didn't lose money doesn't mean ****, really; I've simply made the point that there were so many revenue streams that we know of, and ones that we don't, for the fight that for you to definitely say that money wasn't made back makes you look stupid.
Crawford-Khan did terrible business; drawing **** at the gate, doing so terribly on US PPV that folks are still radio silent a month after the event, and the race-baiting bull**** to kill any talks before the event was really done (likely because the tracking numbers weren't any good to start), with it publicly being told that Khan was getting $5m for the fight, it's pretty darn clear that that event didn't cover, lol.
You assume **** that you have no grounds or basis to assume, and when someone knocks your critique with actual information or looks for you to back your critique with some information, you either ignore or start *****ing about why questions about your assumptions are being asked anyway.not at all. U played amateur account again. You made up the amounts Floyd lift on his bets and his returns on his investments with no clue. You dodo believe he isn’t taxed at the higher rate with no clue what his tax write offs are.
Most of his big purchases like luxury cars jewelry clothes etc he can’t write off.
You also made up foreign tv and gate amounts for Pac Broner greatly inflating them yet make up more numbers to deflate Crawford-Khan foreign tv and gate. See what u are going is called being a hypocrite
and it is 39.6%. That’s the highest federal tax bracket.
39.6% is the top marginal tax rate to file a personal income tax. The fact that you think that Floyd Mayweather, arguably having earned $1b over the course of his career, is still filing his taxes as if he's a normal working man shows, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're out of you depth for even this kind of general conversation.
Floyd is paying nowhere near 40% in taxes, especially if he simply made the vanilla move of running all of his affairs through "Floyd Joy Sinclair LLC" (or whatever he calls his limited liability company that expenses money to him).
25% of net income of the LLC (with all earnings marked against all expenses before a drop of tax is paid).
Try a bit of knowledge next time
Manny needs to give his contracts negotiator a bonus for getting $20M for the old man. Can you imagine if he wins? What’s to stop him from asking for $30M+ for the other PBC names.
If he ends up fighting Spence, $30M is a nice retirement check
baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.
Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?
Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.
Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.
"not sure why it bothers u so much"-clear sign you have no argument or nothing to contribute
this is right up there with guys who say "i dunno why you care so much about someones opinion on a message board" when theyre quoting you and and replying to you ON A MESSAGE BOARD!!! yes this actually happens...its a sight to see really...guy telling me this cause he has nothing to say of relevance....ok dude why are you worried about my opinion then? lol
baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.
Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?
Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.
Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.
Why wouldn't I have a portfolio, lol? Not my fault that you're not sharp enough to look after you're own future.
Whether they lost money or didn't lose money doesn't mean ****, really; I've simply made the point that there were so many revenue streams that we know of, and ones that we don't, for the fight that for you to definitely say that money wasn't made back makes you look stupid.
Crawford-Khan did terrible business; drawing **** at the gate, doing so terribly on US PPV that folks are still radio silent a month after the event, and the race-baiting bull**** to kill any talks before the event was really done (likely because the tracking numbers weren't any good to start), with it publicly being told that Khan was getting $5m for the fight, it's pretty darn clear that that event didn't cover, lol.
You assume **** that you have no grounds or basis to assume, and when someone knocks your critique with actual information or looks for you to back your critique with some information, you either ignore or start *****ing about why questions about your assumptions are being asked anyway.
baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.
Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?
Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.
Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.and it is 39.6%. That’s the highest federal tax bracket.
Except it's not 39.6%, lol.
Beyond that, all I'll say is look at the slips that Floyd has bet, winners or losers. All you'll see is bet $100 to win $50, bet $100 to win $100, and other wagers.
Props get mixed in (a bet against the spread is a prop), but why act as if those are Floyd's main bets, lol? Whatever.
Mayweather Promotions runs shows out of Sam's Town Las Vegas, from what would seem to be a venue deal, for basically all of their off-TV cards, plus getting work as a promoter under the PBC umbrella and with ShoBox; how much money the promotional company is or isn't making is for them to know, but to assume that Floyd is losing his ass on his promotional company is laughable.
Floyd earned, from the Alvarez fight on, over $800m fighting. And that's with having all that property and at least $150m in cash before fighting Canelo. Taxes, Haymon's fee, camp expenses, etc, Floyd likely walked away with $500m+, on top of everything else he had before fighting Alvarez.
I have no idea what Floyd was advised to put his money away in, but basic investing tells you that if you put what Floyd possibly earned away in basically a risk-free asset like a 10Y, you earn 2.5% per year, on top of still getting the investment back; imagine the earnings on basic vanilla stuff like the SPY (historical avg year over year of 8% on the money).
You're completely clueless about money.baisc investing? You don’t even invest and don’t even know a thing about it. You definitely don’t have a portfolio.
Floyd isn’t showing all his losing betting slips so stop. Why do u gargle this man’s nuts?
Why does it bother you that pbc lost money on Pac Broner?
They expected to lose on that fight. It’s part of their big pictures plan. They lose on some of these fox shows too. All promoters do.
Not sure why it bothers u so much. We know u would love to be their account but they just never offer u the job.
lol how hypocritical of these pbc shills. they accuse arum of being hard to work with and putting options on fighters stealing fighters away yet here they are wanting to steal crawford away from top rank so he can sign with gaymon. these fools support a pbc monopoly in the sport. a bunch of ass clowns all of them.not surprising is it
What makes u think Crawford is unhappy? He seems very happy where he is at. You are the one unhappy with where he is at. He’s making over 5 mil a fight, is one of the top 2 stars in the company. The big fish in a small pond. His mentor has a cushy announcing job. So does his manager/trainer.
You’re the only one who seems to be unhappy with his deal.
Using your logic Jermall needs to run to DAZN and stop fighting Heiland, Centeno, Korobov, Adams.
lol how hypocritical of these pbc shills. they accuse arum of being hard to work with and putting options on fighters stealing fighters away yet here they are wanting to steal crawford away from top rank so he can sign with gaymon. these fools support a pbc monopoly in the sport. a bunch of ass clowns all of them.
Really don't get some of these guys, like you pointed out if Crawford isn't happy he wouldn't have re-signed a new deal. And its part and parcel of the fight game to ask to be push a bit more in promotional stables.
What makes u think Crawford is unhappy? He seems very happy where he is at. You are the one unhappy with where he is at. He’s making over 5 mil a fight, is one of the top 2 stars in the company. The big fish in a small pond. His mentor has a cushy announcing job. So does his manager/trainer.
You’re the only one who seems to be unhappy with his deal.
Using your logic Jermall needs to run to DAZN and stop fighting Heiland, Centeno, Korobov, Adams. lol how hypocritical of these pbc shills. they accuse arum of being hard to work with and putting options on fighters stealing fighters away yet here they are wanting to steal crawford away from top rank so he can sign with gaymon. these fools support a pbc monopoly in the sport. a bunch of ass clowns all of them.
If Manny miraculously wins against Thurman, Arum might call him back for the fear of Spence getting to Manny first and collecting that belt, but Manny being a little bit sly might up his price to a minimum of 40 million to fight Crawford. Arum indeed might be scratching his balls this time around.
Everything that's happening now is part of Al Haymon's grand plan. Spence vs Porter / Thurman vs Pacquiao will end up with Errol Spence collecting 3 belts and then we go to war on the other side with that leverage and ask for a minimum of 75/25 against Crawford. This is why Arum is in a hurry to make the fight now because he had foresaw that moment.
... yes............................
A buyout is can be negotiated. Haymon has negotiated several fighters out of their contract via a buyout. It all comes down to a number both sides agree on why would arum or crawford who's making good money want to leave? IF crawford was unhappy with arum he wouldn't have recently signed that new deal with top rank.
you are completely clueless with gambling. If it was that easy easy everyone would do it. You are starting to come off as ignorant.
You can bet the warriors -11 in the first half and they score 10 more than their opponent and you lose your bet. You really have no knowledge on what you are talking about.
He can have an annuity paying 1 million a Month and 39.6% goes to Uncle Sam. If you spend more than you make your net worth goes down not up.
You just made made up 15-20 mil a year in passive income.
You also don’t take into account how much he loves yearly on his promotional company that doesn’t make money. Especially with so many off tv shows.
Except it's not 39.6%, lol.
Beyond that, all I'll say is look at the slips that Floyd has bet, winners or losers. All you'll see is bet $100 to win $50, bet $100 to win $100, and other wagers.
Props get mixed in (a bet against the spread is a prop), but why act as if those are Floyd's main bets, lol? Whatever.
Mayweather Promotions runs shows out of Sam's Town Las Vegas, from what would seem to be a venue deal, for basically all of their off-TV cards, plus getting work as a promoter under the PBC umbrella and with ShoBox; how much money the promotional company is or isn't making is for them to know, but to assume that Floyd is losing his ass on his promotional company is laughable.
Floyd earned, from the Alvarez fight on, over $800m fighting. And that's with having all that property and at least $150m in cash before fighting Canelo. Taxes, Haymon's fee, camp expenses, etc, Floyd likely walked away with $500m+, on top of everything else he had before fighting Alvarez.
I have no idea what Floyd was advised to put his money away in, but basic investing tells you that if you put what Floyd possibly earned away in basically a risk-free asset like a 10Y, you earn 2.5% per year, on top of still getting the investment back; imagine the earnings on basic vanilla stuff like the SPY (historical avg year over year of 8% on the money).
You're completely clueless about money.
If he's betting $250k on the Warriors to win the half, who gives a ****? Floyd has already gone public with one of his annuities basically paying him $1m a month for the rest of his life, and that's just the start. If you've got your money already heading that way, you're bound to keep stashing your money away in similar fashion.
I don't know what Floyd has his money specifically invested, but if he's logically seeing $15-$25m in passive income every year, after basically already buying everything there is to buy, plus the money he's likely getting through appearances and his current businesses, he can basically gamble whatever.
If you've got $20m a year in mailbox money coming to you (it's likely ridiculously more than that), what would we even be talking about?you are completely clueless with gambling. If it was that easy easy everyone would do it. You are starting to come off as ignorant.
You can bet the warriors -11 in the first half and they score 10 more than their opponent and you lose your bet. You really have no knowledge on what you are talking about.
He can have an annuity paying 1 million a Month and 39.6% goes to Uncle Sam. If you spend more than you make your net worth goes down not up.
You just made made up 15-20 mil a year in passive income.
You also don’t take into account how much he loves yearly on his promotional company that doesn’t make money. Especially with so many off tv shows.
That whole bottom couple paragraphs is strictly your own speculation with no facts to back it up.
Floyd betting purely “favorites” is laughable too. Clearly u don’t know about sports betting. He bets a lot of football and basketball which have point spreads. He can bet on a favorite and the favorite can win and he still loses because they don’t cover the spread. The house has a built in advantage. Floyd isn’t some professional gambler. He bets high limits that a lot of elite gamblers can’t bet because the casinos won’t take their action. Why do you think they take Floyd’s? Because they make big money off it.
He isn’t betting small amounts like Barkley betting 10k a hole or something. He’s betting 250k-500k a game and sometimes 3 or 4 in a day. His gambling losses are way more than you care to think tbh.
If he's betting $250k on the Warriors to win the half, who gives a ****? Floyd has already gone public with one of his annuities basically paying him $1m a month for the rest of his life, and that's just the start. If you've got your money already heading that way, you're bound to keep stashing your money away in similar fashion.
I don't know what Floyd has his money specifically invested, but if he's logically seeing $15-$25m in passive income every year, after basically already buying everything there is to buy, plus the money he's likely getting through appearances and his current businesses, he can basically gamble whatever.
If you've got $20m a year in mailbox money coming to you (it's likely ridiculously more than that), what would we even be talking about?