Every time Alvarez throws a punch, hit or miss, weak or strong, the partisan crowd goes wild. Meanwhile any good work by his opponent is met with deafening silence.Common sense tells you that has to affect both the ref and the judges and probably means 2 or 3 undeserved rounds for Alvarez every fight.
I agree, I mean when the crowd reacts, it has to affect the judges thoughts on the rounds, I do not think Canelo needed that against Jacobs, but I do think it helped him against GGG on their first fight.
What helped him in the first fight more than the crowd was a moron of judge (or a corrupt one, or both).
I agree, I mean when the crowd reacts, it has to affect the judges thoughts on the rounds, I do not think Canelo needed that against Jacobs, but I do think it helped him against GGG on their first fight.
It is pretty much common sense. One of the reason all home teams have a built in advantage. That said good judges should be able to score a fight without being swayed.
I had the Jacbos-Canelo fight 116-112 for Canelo. I thought he had more decisive rounds. It was hard to say Jacobs won any round decisively.
You're right. Alvarez deserved the decision.
Every time Alvarez throws a punch, hit or miss, weak or strong, the partisan crowd goes wild. Meanwhile any good work by his opponent is met with deafening silence.Common sense tells you that has to affect both the ref and the judges and probably means 2 or 3 undeserved rounds for Alvarez every fight.
It is pretty much common sense. One of the reason all home teams have a built in advantage. That said good judges should be able to score a fight without being swayed.
I had the Jacbos-Canelo fight 116-112 for Canelo. I thought he had more decisive rounds. It was hard to say Jacobs won any round decisively.
The lineal champ is just mythical BS and has no value and is not a real title. Canelo won the so called lineal title and the WBC title from Cotto at a catchweight of 155 FFS. That's much more of a Jr middleweight fight. Then he gave up that WBC title to GGG rather than fight him. When he did finally fight GGG he had no title. GGG was the true middleweight champ and everybody knew that. GGG had three of the 4 belts and Canelo had no belts and he had given up his WBC and so called lineal 155 pound title he won from pretend middleweight champ Cotto the catchweight champ. Fury is trying to milk that lineal BS too. It's worthless.
True. 100% correct. You surrender the title, HTF you gonna claim to be lineal champ?
Every time Alvarez throws a punch, hit or miss, weak or strong, the partisan crowd goes wild. Meanwhile any good work by his opponent is met with deafening silence.Common sense tells you that has to affect both the ref and the judges and probably means 2 or 3 undeserved rounds for Alvarez every fight.
yet Floyd Mayweather retired undefeated
People forget one important fact,ggg wasn't truly the champ. That was Canelo who was the lineal champ & rightful WBC champ who was stripped because he didn't want to give ggg every concession plus 45% they were mandating. So as far as taking the belt from the champ, I've personally never agreed with 12 rd fights, because 13 rds should've been the natural choice when they transitioned from 15.
Thered be way more clear fights if they were 13 rds,& thered be way more kos.That isn't an important fact all. It's just your pro Canelo anti GGG BS. GGG was indeed the true champ. He had all the belts except Saunders refused to fight him just as Cotto had refused to fight him. The problem isn't the 12 round distance. Judges could still robbed boxers and give the close rounds to the house boxer which is always Canelo. Judges should be allowed to score an EVEN round as an even round as they have for over 100 years. Today judges are no longer allowed to score a round even when they believe the round was even so you get some draws with 6 rounds for each boxer. It's a stupid rule and many rounds are even with nothing to favor one boxer over the other.
People forget one important fact,ggg wasn't truly the champ. That was Canelo who was the lineal champ & rightful WBC champ who was stripped because he didn't want to give ggg every concession plus 45% they were mandating. So as far as taking the belt from the champ, I've personally never agreed with 12 rd fights, because 13 rds should've been the natural choice when they transitioned from 15.
Thered be way more clear fights if they were 13 rds,& thered be way more kos.
The lineal champ is just mythical BS and has no value and is not a real title. Canelo won the so called lineal title and the WBC title from Cotto at a catchweight of 155 FFS. That's much more of a Jr middleweight fight. Then he gave up that WBC title to GGG rather than fight him. When he did finally fight GGG he had no title. GGG was the true middleweight champ and everybody knew that. GGG had three of the 4 belts and Canelo had no belts and he had given up his WBC and so called lineal 155 pound title he won from pretend middleweight champ Cotto the catchweight champ. Fury is trying to milk that lineal BS too. It's worthless.
Not in the Jacobs fight. I am not influenced by yelling fans and I only gave Jacobs 3 rounds. I thought the judges were very kind to Jacobs in that fight. I do think Canelo lost to GGG twice but got a draw and a win instead of the two losses he should have had.
Yeah, it's tricky. It just don't seem right for a champ to lose his title on the basis of a round or two, but that's boxing.
People forget one important fact,ggg wasn't truly the champ. That was Canelo who was the lineal champ & rightful WBC champ who was stripped because he didn't want to give ggg every concession plus 45% they were mandating. So as far as taking the belt from the champ, I've personally never agreed with 12 rd fights, because 13 rds should've been the natural choice when they transitioned from 15.
Thered be way more clear fights if they were 13 rds,& thered be way more kos.
this is true to some degree, since decades ago it has always been like that, they used to say "you have to beat the champion" .. cuz back then tha champ always had the crowd in his favor.. now the difference is that you dont have to be the champ to have the crowd in your favor...
the champ was the A side, now is different.. not saying its or was right, but thats the way it is, and it has been like that almost forever..
Yeah, it's tricky. It just don't seem right for a champ to lose his title on the basis of a round or two, but that's boxing.
Every time Alvarez throws a punch, hit or miss, weak or strong, the partisan crowd goes wild. Meanwhile any good work by his opponent is met with deafening silence.Common sense tells you that has to affect both the ref and the judges and probably means 2 or 3 undeserved rounds for Alvarez every fight.
this is true to some degree, since decades ago it has always been like that, they used to say "you have to beat the champion" .. cuz back then tha champ always had the crowd in his favor.. now the difference is that you dont have to be the champ to have the crowd in your favor...
the champ was the A side, now is different.. not saying its or was right, but thats the way it is, and it has been like that almost forever..
I agree. Dave Moretti is 17 years of age. Needs more experience.
You're right. My bad, at about 75 Moretti's almost deaf, the problem is he's almost blind too.