Why is Shelley Finkel obsessed with putting matchroom out of business?

You want to bet me 100,000 that you have a higher IQ than me? Yes, I am willing to bet $100,000 that I have a higher IQ than you. So if you really believe that I'm an idiot, you should be very eager to accept this offer. No need to hide behind a computer. Let's find out who is telling the truth. Just because you're an internet loser doesn't mean everybody else is. Just because you like to hide behind a computer and throw out lies doesn't mean everybody else does. We can easily find out which one of us is telling the truth. I dare you to call my bluff.

If you think it's nonsense, bet me. I can make you a very wealthy man if you're telling the truth. You want to bet me 100,000 that you have a higher IQ than me? Have you heard yourself with all these silly bets you offer? Show me that Finkle met with the head of Sky. Also show me these Hearn lies. What part of this don't you understand?

Thanks for repeating the same nonsense about your promoting career. One day I hope it takes off for you. If you think it's nonsense, bet me. I can make you a very wealthy man if you're telling the truth.

Because with HBO now deceased and DAZN's Netflix like model on a tear, they fear it might be the bitter end for PPV. The fact that Canelo screvved Showtime over for HBO and even HBO couldn't remain alive with him means Showtime is at a huge disadvantage with no superstars. Wilder is their golden goose as well as maybe Tank Davis. Spence too I suppose. The PBC guys still there are company men to the bitter end. In Spence case, it probably makes sense to stay since they stay rolling out the red carpet for him. But Deontay and Tank? They should gtfo. Deontay's management clearly can't compete with Joshua's and there is just no inspiration or competence. Tank seems more aware. They're making big promises and swear up and down how he will get all these opportunities. Well any objective person can see that doesn't sound likely with how the other next "Mayweathers" have been handled. Vitali, Wlad, Haye, etc are all guys Wilders team should have been grinding to make a fight with. Unfortunately they showed no rapidity and stayed in their holes in a cold war with seemingly everyone.

You're so quick to label me an idiot, but how sure are you that you're not the idiot? I'm so sure that I would gladly wager you $100,000 that I would score higher than you on an IQ test. Let me know if you'd like to accept my offer. Separate from that, you clearly have absolutely no knowledge, insight or experience pertaining to standard practices of fight negotiations. I've been negotiating fights for 20 years, so let me point out a few things. Promoters accept offers all the time that entail their fighter taking a one off elsewhere. Either their broadcasting agreement has outs for certain circumstances, or they negotiate permission for a one off so they can accept the offer. You can't demand 50 million AND retain UK rights. That would be absolutely ludicrous. So for Wilder to come up with the 50 million, he obviously needs to maximize the value of the UK rights to have any shot at breaking even on the deal. When Joshua fights on PPV, depending on the level of the opponent, Sky and Joshua negotiate certain guarantees, marketing budgets, etc. Sky isn't entitled to each Joshua fight for a set fee. Every PPV is its own negotiation. Had Joshua accepted the 50 million, the Wilder side would be getting the money from Sky, not the Joshua side. The only way to ensure that Sky offered fair numbers is to present BT's offer. Since Sky is listed as the broadcaster in the contract Espinoza posted, clearly Sky wanted the fight more than BT. Thanks for repeating the same nonsense about your promoting career. One day I hope it takes off for you. Now, when did Finkle talk to the head of Sky? Where are all these Hearn lies you keep talking about? Are they the same ones that were exposed on here every time a fool tried? Sure, lets have some more fun in exposing them for the hundredth time. Why not.

Hearn would just need to tell Finkle that it can't go to the highest bidder because he's signed with Sky you idiot. You're so quick to label me an idiot, but how sure are you that you're not the idiot? I'm so sure that I would gladly wager you $100,000 that I would score higher than you on an IQ test. Let me know if you'd like to accept my offer. Separate from that, you clearly have absolutely no knowledge, insight or experience pertaining to standard practices of fight negotiations. I've been negotiating fights for 20 years, so let me point out a few things. Promoters accept offers all the time that entail their fighter taking a one off elsewhere. Either their broadcasting agreement has outs for certain circumstances, or they negotiate permission for a one off so they can accept the offer. You can't demand 50 million AND retain UK rights. That would be absolutely ludicrous. So for Wilder to come up with the 50 million, he obviously needs to maximize the value of the UK rights to have any shot at breaking even on the deal. When Joshua fights on PPV, depending on the level of the opponent, Sky and Joshua negotiate certain guarantees, marketing budgets, etc. Sky isn't entitled to each Joshua fight for a set fee. Every PPV is its own negotiation. Had Joshua accepted the 50 million, the Wilder side would be getting the money from Sky, not the Joshua side. The only way to ensure that Sky offered fair numbers is to present BT's offer. Since Sky is listed as the broadcaster in the contract Espinoza posted, clearly Sky wanted the fight more than BT.

Of course he did. One of his first questions was about UK broadcast rights. Finkel said they go to highest bidder. Finkel said what BT was offering, Finkel talked to the head of Sky and worked things out. Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the agreement. It was only months later, after Hearn had already admitted Joshua turned down the fight because he wanted to fight in the UK, that Hearn decided to trick everyone and blame things on BT. He tried the truth, it didn't go over well. So he made up a lie and it worked great. This is why Hearn lies so much. The fans have taught him that lying is the way to go. Hearn would just need to tell Finkle that it can't go to the highest bidder because he's signed with Sky you idiot. He wouldn't need anything else, it speaks for itself. Finkle talked to the head of Sky? When did this happen? You can't prove anything when it comes to Hearns supposed lies. But Finkle has been proven a liar when he contradicted himself by saying they never accepted the 15 Mill offer even though weeks before hand he did. I loved it last time when you tried to show me Hearn lying and gave me him having an opinion on whether Showtime would be around after a year or so. Remember that? Haha. That wasn't a lie. That's an opinion you drip. Care to give me these lies again so I can laugh at your mental illness on display like all the other freaks and weirdos on here?

... I got it the first time around... but... ... then we go again to "venues"... Hearn wants it at the Wembley stadium (and Sky) while Haymon wants it in the U.S. (and Showtime)... That same insider told me Showtime project it would easily clear 2million PPVs at $89 each, US prime time. And Haymon has cut a deal with Spinoza that ST would only take 30% of the gross income, instead of the normal 50%. Add the Vegas gate and site fee, and the fight has to be in US, no question. AJ and Wilder just need to not get beat before Skipper fires Eddie. 😀

Yes, DAZN are paying Eddie $100million per year for nothing, and Skipper is very unhappy with that. So Eddie is getting fired as soon as his probation is over and Oscar is taking over his job. When that happens, AJ will be allowed to fight Wilder on Showtime PPV. ... I got it the first time around... but... ... then we go again to "venues"... Hearn wants it at the Wembley stadium (and Sky) while Haymon wants it in the U.S. (and Showtime)...

I see.................... Yes, DAZN are paying Eddie $100million per year for nothing, and Skipper is very unhappy with that. So Eddie is getting fired as soon as his probation is over and Oscar is taking over his job. When that happens, AJ will be allowed to fight Wilder on Showtime PPV. 😀

No mate, Hearn works for DAZN, but they hired him before John Skipper took over and Skipper brought in GB to replace Eddie when his probation period is up. I know that must be true because some guy with inside info told me.😀 I see....................

... DAZN "to sack" Eddie from where, exactly?... ... as I know, Matchroom Boxing USA signed a deal with DAZN... nothing more... No mate, Hearn works for DAZN, but they hired him before John Skipper took over and Skipper brought in GB to replace Eddie when his probation period is up. I know that must be true because some guy with inside info told me.😀

That’s the way the business operates The power players will shake their enemy’s hand when they can get some sheckles but the whole time everyone in the sport is always trying to f.uck over their competition, making moves in hopes it can cripple their competitors . Hearn has been right disrespectful to Finkel , a guy who’s paid his dues and deserves respect. I’m sure if Finkel can make moves that hurt Hearn / Matchroom / DAZN he’s happier then a pig in sh.it , But I’m sure he’s professional enough to not let feeling get in the way of business But All the Top Guns of the sport are always trying to weaken the competition. That’s probably why half the Big guys are in the business. They probably get more enjoyment from f.ucking over and hurting the competition then they do from what happens with their fighters in the ring. Arum probably had a hard on for 2 weeks when he pulled the rug from underneath Haymon / Finkel / Dibella and snatched up Fury when it looked like the Wilder rematch was going down. Haymon probably still smiles when he thinks how he gutted Golden Boy and how he gutted the #1 Promo Company in the sport to a company that now has 1 fighter who makes them $.

Finkel isn't trying to put Matchroom out of business ... He and Deontay are waiting for DAZN to sack Eddie Hearn, so Eddie will have to make the fight on Showtime PPV! :lol1: ... DAZN "to sack" Eddie from where, exactly?... ... as I know, Matchroom Boxing USA signed a deal with DAZN... nothing more...

He owns a business and The Brit is making up stuff and talking out of his AZZ to and sign people away from his business. Hearn gonna learn really quick you don’t play that game in the states. In fact he already has learned. No one signed with him. You do that crap behind closed doors not blabbering to the media. Eddie needs to really grow up to be a businessman in America.

He didn't know about BT being involved though did he when he was talking to Finkle and Al. Of course he did. One of his first questions was about UK broadcast rights. Finkel said they go to highest bidder. Finkel said what BT was offering, Finkel talked to the head of Sky and worked things out. Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the agreement. It was only months later, after Hearn had already admitted Joshua turned down the fight because he wanted to fight in the UK, that Hearn decided to trick everyone and blame things on BT. He tried the truth, it didn't go over well. So he made up a lie and it worked great. This is why Hearn lies so much. The fans have taught him that lying is the way to go.

Is it because he’s jealous and showtimes / PBCs quality is rapidly declining and less and less people are watching and DAZN is on the up? Is it because he deep down wishes he was the one who had Joshua and would rather have Joshua than Wilder? What makes this man so obsessed with Matchroom and putting them out of business? Anybody got a picture of this dude?

Espinoza posted the section pertaining to TV distributors, which stated Sky got the UK rights. Espinoza doesn't have to post the entire agreement for us to know that clearly Hearn was lying about BT showing the fight. If that were the case, Hearn would have complained about BT during negotiations, not months later once he'd already turned down the fight and needed new excuses. He didn't know about BT being involved though did he when he was talking to Finkle and Al. So Finkle was lying about BT being involved and going to Sky if they can match the offer? Haha. Espinosa could post it all up to show that this is included in what he claims he offered Hearn and not something he's just written up for more propaganda. You know, like they and you like to come up with all the time?

- -Is Shirley a good Winkle or a bad Winkle? We wanna know!

Post a video where Hearn said they're negotiating that 50m "offer"... Wilder sent the 50 million offer on April 25, 2018. Here is an IFL video from weeks later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppTrXXJRVIM Eddie Hearn: "I went back to Al Haymon and asked him six or seven questions, of which they gave us the answers. Some were good answers, some were not so good answers. None were horrific answers." "It's really a case of does Anthony want to take the fight in Las Vegas." "There is more money, based on the offer, to do the fight in the US." "The main thing to decide is are we prepared to go to America. If the answer is yes, we have to go back through the points and try to get it over the line." "I haven't requested proof of funds."