This was a ***** move by Garcia. He moved up to 147 even though his own fans wanted him to stay at 135 to fight Lomachenko. Then this fool saw Lomachenko call him out in his hometown and just a couple weeks later he gives up his belt and ducks again! When will people realize this dude wants no part of Loma.
Well, he wasn't going to get a big money fight sticking around at 140. At this point, he has no where to go but up. If he had started w/ someone else: Porter, the other Garcia, the loser of Thurman-Pacquiao, then he'd be D.O.A.
Again, Spence is the best at 147, and no long for the division. Eventually a big-money-fight will surface. More than if he had lost to Loma.
Isn't he fighting Danny?...
... OK, OK... Mikey lost... and just where is he at, right now?... is he on top of 140 division?... is he a 'stepping stone" in the 147 division?... tell me...
He's clearly in a much better position than if he had lost to Lomachenko.
Losing to (probably) the best Ww looks much better than losing to a much smaller fighter. Not to mention Spence will probably be fighting at 154 before we know it.
Mikey looks "brave" for fighting Spence. Rather than yellow for trying to delay a showdown w/ Lomachenko.
I know what the "general perception" is right now... I'm not here to defend a Mikey vs Loma fight... That ship sailed long ago, when Mikey left Arum...
I was asking just where Mikey is at, right now -- which division and which money fights?... as the big money fight is already behind him...
All you guys like to talk a big game but struggle so badly to answer any questions. If you guys were boxers you would be caught dead in round one because you have no answers to any of the questions I throw at you.
You know Bob? Please dude. You don't know Bob and I dont know Bob. You guys all say Bob is Bob but Bob has made fights happen and have made them happen for Lomachenko.
Since you KNOW so much answer a few questions for me because I dont know. Like.
When did Mikey Garcia say he wanted to fight Lomachenko and then made an effort to get the deal done?
Hmm?
I'll answer that for you because I know you and i know you have an agenda.
The answer is never not even once. He doesnt want Lomachenko. Period. It's not Bob. Its Mikey. Quit lying.
https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-if-...chenko--128171
If bob is going to do THIS ^ then stop acting like he don't. Mikey isn't wasting his time with bob.
Dude I know your not stupid, your just acting like you are cuz we ALL KNOW bob while you acting like you don't. Stupid.
All you guys like to talk a big game but struggle so badly to answer any questions. If you guys were boxers you would be caught dead in round one because you have no answers to any of the questions I throw at you.
You know Bob? Please dude. You don't know Bob and I dont know Bob. You guys all say Bob is Bob but Bob has made fights happen and have made them happen for Lomachenko.
Since you KNOW so much answer a few questions for me because I dont know. Like.
When did Mikey Garcia say he wanted to fight Lomachenko and then made an effort to get the deal done?
Hmm?
I'll answer that for you because I know you and i know you have an agenda.
The answer is never not even once. He doesnt want Lomachenko. Period. It's not Bob. Its Mikey. Quit lying.
He could have gotten Porter anytime he wanted.
Yes it is. Mikey is completely undeserving of that fight. He took his chance at the champion and got embarrassed. If he wants another big fight at 147 he should earn it and not steal the opportunity from deserving welterweights.
Mikey is no JMM
He absolutely couldn't get Porter anytime he wanted. Stop, Porter himself said Spence wasn't his target as he wanted to face DSG instead.
Okay cool, he can "earn" his title shot like Khan did, right? Oh wait…. But make Garcia vs Garcia and the winner can get a title shot. I'd be down with that.
It pains me to say this but Mikey is afraid of getting his whooped by men his own size and weight division. Which was the reason why he ducked Gamboa and subsequently left Top Rank because of it. Bob was pushing for that fight.
To this day Mikey Garcia does not have a signature win on his resume. He is too afraid of competition. In order to save face he leaped two weight divisions in order to challenge a much larger and stronger man to use as a smoke screen to hide the fact that he was ducking Loma.
You seriously need to get check out for your own stupidity. Do you really think I'm so dumb that I wouldnt know that that article is outdated? And damn dude. Did you even read the headline?
"With a Mikey Garcia , it becomes like the second coming of Mayweather-Pacquiao," the 86-year-old Arum admitted.
"The negotiations will go on - I may be 90-years-old by the time negotiations finish. I'm tired of that. Whoever's the best available, whichever makes the most sense, that’s what we're gonna go after.
"If wants to fight, let him call me and I'll give him a number. If he doesn't like the number - f*** it - I ain't negotiating! It's because of the way he negotiates. If he's loyal to Showtime and they've been good to him, let him be loyal to Showtime - just don't bother me."
Now is any of what Bob said a lie? If Mikey wanted the fight he could have called him. But honestly. How many times had Mikey ever said he wanted to fight Lomachenko?
I never said be ducked Linares, dude you cant even ducking read, but for a guy who claims to care so much about legacy he values money a lot more than opposition. Dude himself said he fought Lipinets because he got more money.
And oh, you wanna give a guy props for fighting a complete mismatch only an idiot would believe he could win? Lmfao.
Try harder
Dude I know your not stupid, your just acting like you are cuz we ALL KNOW bob while you acting like you don't. Stupid.
He would have gotten the porter fight anyway. He is the clear king of the division on the PBC side. Garcia was easy money for Spence but an utter waste of time for everyone else.
And it's clear he doesn't want to fight lomachenko.
Another cash out joke of a fight that wastes everyone's time. Even worse than the Spence fight after how he was dominated by Spence
He wouldn't have gotten Porter in March, that's not true. He called Porter out after the Garcia fight.
Mikey vs Pacquiao or Thurman wouldn't be a joke of a fight. That's dumb to think any of the WWs would do to him what Spence did to him.
Compare it to JMM who got dominated in a similar way to Mayweather and then compare how he held up against other WWs he faced. As Mikey gets more accustomed to the weight, the better he will be.
Mikey fought a bigger, stronger & better fighter so you can't spin it how you like it. Tell l0m0 to tell bob to do his job that he hired him for.
https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-if-mikey-garcia-like-offer-fight-lomachenko--128171
NOT do this ^
You seriously need to get check out for your own stupidity. Do you really think I'm so dumb that I wouldnt know that that article is outdated? And damn dude. Did you even read the headline?
"With a Mikey Garcia , it becomes like the second coming of Mayweather-Pacquiao," the 86-year-old Arum admitted.
"The negotiations will go on - I may be 90-years-old by the time negotiations finish. I'm tired of that. Whoever's the best available, whichever makes the most sense, that’s what we're gonna go after.
"If wants to fight, let him call me and I'll give him a number. If he doesn't like the number - f*** it - I ain't negotiating! It's because of the way he negotiates. If he's loyal to Showtime and they've been good to him, let him be loyal to Showtime - just don't bother me."
Now is any of what Bob said a lie? If Mikey wanted the fight he could have called him. But honestly. How many times had Mikey ever said he wanted to fight Lomachenko?
I never said be ducked Linares, dude you cant even ducking read, but for a guy who claims to care so much about legacy he values money a lot more than opposition. Dude himself said he fought Lipinets because he got more money.
And oh, you wanna give a guy props for fighting a complete mismatch only an idiot would believe he could win? Lmfao.
Try harder
This was a ***** move by Garcia. He moved up to 147 even though his own fans wanted him to stay at 135 to fight Lomachenko. Then this fool saw Lomachenko call him out in his hometown and just a couple weeks later he gives up his belt and ducks again! When will people realize this dude wants no part of Loma.
Oh, lets see. Whats scarier. A man who out weighs me by more than 30 pounds naturally who knocks people out or a guy who im bigger than and doesnt hit near as hard as Spence. This is a tuff one.
Garcia is guilty of being overly confident and going for more money. He also proved hes a tuff sob. Hes really too big for loma now. If Loma wants to go up im sure Garcia would fight him.
Garcia is going to stay at welter. Even though he doesnt belong there. You know why?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Actually was a smart business move but not legacy move.
The fact of the matter is that it was a cash grab with PPV upside plus the prospect of an even bigger money fight with PPV upside against Pac-man. The fact of the matter is by making this fight Mikey had to bulk up to the point where it is impossible for him to make 135 again thus killing forever the possibility of a fight with Lomachenko. The fact of the matter is that Errol Spence could have fought a much more meaningful welterweight opponent but instead chose to waste everyone's time fighting a comparative midget with a big name.
The PPV did wonders for Spence and gave him by far his biggest pay day. I think he made the right decision, and that fight is probably what will lead to him getting other champions in his stable. I mean we are already seeing that with the Porter fight.
Mikey eyed Spence for a while and ended up realizing what he saw on the outside wasn't the same as it was on the inside. And if he wanted to make 135 again, I don't think it is impossible. Would have to drop to 140 first for a fight or two, but can happen. But seems like he wants to win the WW title badly and will be staying there. His best bet is to get the winner of Thurman/Pacquiao.
This is all on Arum, he was coming up with all kinds of excuses not to make the fight during interviews.
On the flip side, look how eager Arum is to make Crawford-Spence despite promotional differences. Arum was confident in Crawford but not Loma.
Says the man going out of his way to make up weak excuses for Mikey killing any possibility for a fight with lomachenko
No, saying he just did it for money is a weak excuse when I just told you he could have made pretty much the same money for a MUCH easier fight...That wasn't just according to him, but also Hearn.
So why can't it just be he thought he was up for the task and thought he would be able to out box Spence? This man talked about fighting Spence for over a year and really thought he was going to be able to beat him and become a five weight champion and a legend. Ended up not working out for him but it happens.