Just out of interest regarding (canelo)

How are people this stupid. Educate us then, good sir.

It's called maturity, growth, and development. People either improve or regress with time. Canelo is a special fighter.

Yes, we agree he cheated no one and it wasn't done maliciously. You're not a fan of impartial investigations. Just grudges. Biting, cement, head butts, provable corruption, needles and cream, AVOIDING TESTS*, cheating..... Tainted meat ?!?!?!? Nah. * Avoiding should = cheating Which entity held an impartial investigation? Surely you aren't suggesting the WBC investigation was impartial? Avoiding tests isn't worse than testing positive or testing positive with an excuse. We just don't live in a world where you can even suggest that. No grudge is being held. My post history doesn't show any hate or grudge against Canelo. I have been consistent about this since he tested positive. Had he not cheated, we wouldn't be discussing this.

Its Baffling? you do realise he got caught with a PED that helps you cut weight...right? His head also expanded in size like mad, we all should expect Canelo has been on ped's for several years now. There are pictures of him out there looking natural same sort of physique as Gennady. 2011 https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/09/11/10/5005BAD500000578-0-image-m-54_1536659352001.jpg Then boom 2017 https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/rbqGD_9Pd_o_u3YOmzaPoRiaSwI=/0x0:4234x2945/1200x800/filters:focal(1761x511:2437x1187)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/59218265/usa_today_10281521.0.jpg Bare in mind his fans were saying he was too small to fight Golovkin, but since then he has fought at catchweight at 170ish for Chavez Jr, then fought a paper champ at 168. For someone who is small he sure doesn't have a problem making these higher weights. Now he wants to maybe fight at 175 lol. Growth Hormones increase EVERYTHING in size, it is likely why he would have absolutely no problem making 168lbs. He has been caught using Clenbutrol, but we haven't got proof of all the other things he quite obviously has been doing.

Ok, he cheated no one. Next, he delayed a rematch. GGG found a bum on vacation to toy with. Time off didn't make Vanes a better fighter :lol1: If a true fight fan is going to hold the ban against Nelo his entire career, that's not a fight fan. Again, there was a thorough investigation. Nelo made a mistake with proof to back it up. Now hes 365. The sport has forgiven him and moved on. Others, well..........wgaf :lol1: You're not a fight fan if you hold cheating against a fighter that cheated? WTF?? That is what real fight fans have always done. No, he cheated and the WBC went along with it for reasons we both know. We can simply agree to disagree.

How are people this stupid.

OK, you're here right now....who did Nelo cheat ?!?!? Be specific. It's not who did he cheat, it's how did his cheating affect the sport. By cheating, he got the fight delayed which gave him a better chance to win then when the fight would have occurred. who knows how things play out in that scenario.

In this isolated case, no one cares. Really. No one except those with an otherwise unhealthy feeling towards Nelo. The investigation was more than a thorough and the punishment reflected it. The lowest of levels. Barely trace amounts. As you've seen with your own eyes, so called fight fans don't even trust tests YET they are quick to doom a person when boxers fail them :lol1: Everyone who doesn't have a feeling or agenda has moved on. I don't see how mentioning a fact is proof of an agenda or an unhealthy feeling toward Canelo. He cheated. If it was someone less popular we'd bring it up and it would follow him throughout his career. Is that really fair.

Can anyone explain how someone goes from being staggered by cottos brother and unable to walk down floyd to taking flush shots off punchers like ggg and jacobs without flinching whilst walking them down seemingly with more strength. Is it elite level neck training or something that can enhance chin? Experience and age. The great Salvador Sanchez was dropped by two unknowns when he was 18 (he turned pro at 16), and never touched the canvas again. Years later he walked through the best punches of Little Red Lopez, the Professor and, most notably, Wilfredo Gomez, arguably the hardest super bantam puncher ever, without even flinching. It's hardly unusual, honestly.

Yeah. That's what they were thinking when they signed him to that new contract :( His PED cheating didn't impact his ability to draw fans or make money so of course DAZN would sign him, anyone would, especially given how the WBC was very light on him and ESPN didn't really discuss it much.

It’s hard to not question anyone who fail a drug test. It sure creates a shadow of doubt.

I never took much stock of the mex beef situation seems beneficial for weight loss or stamina endurance increase but i havent seen any endurance improvements in canelo. Other then his new found tysonesque neck he sports these days. It’s hard to not question anyone who fail a drug test.

I find it hard to believe he did all that natural! That’s fair to say.

Is it fair to say speed not power of punches bothers canelo? I rewatched the khan fight recently and noticed nelo looked visibly bothered at times by some of khans punches.

I know....:boxing: I find it hard to believe he did all that natural!

This is a very good question, obviously the whole tainted beef thing would bring questions up in that regard, I also find it hard that he could go 24 rounds with GGG, 12 rounds with Jacobs and not go down once, he has a good chin and he always seem to roll with some of the punches, but watching him take those punches I also have to question how he does that without taking any damage. I never took much stock of the mex beef situation seems beneficial for weight loss or stamina endurance increase but i havent seen any endurance improvements in canelo. Other then his new found tysonesque neck he sports these days.

He also went 2 and a half rounds with Rocky from Crocky, and didn't touch the canvas. I know....:boxing:

GGG never went down in any of these fights either, Jacobs went down on a push more or less, does that make them cheats PED abusers too? The clenbuterol that he was probably taking was to keep his weight in check, it has no enhancement effects as far as I know and he never tested positive for anything that would enhance his performance or his muscle mass or anything like that. I think Canelo's chin has been good from the start, it's just that he was severly drained at 147 and got caught cold by a punch he didn't see. No more no less. If GGG tested positive for anything then I would have the same question that I have regarding Canelo. It’s a difficult one to be honest. As much as I like Canelo I have questions in my mind and that’s all due to his tainted meat issue.

Because the topic is not a strange one ?!?!?!? Your just intimidated by my vast knowledge. I am somewhat of a fight aficionado. Come on now we're like masters on here teaching the others who are sensei's

This is a very good question, obviously the whole tainted beef thing would bring questions up in that regard, I also find it hard that he could go 24 rounds with GGG, 12 rounds with Jacobs and not go down once, he has a good chin and he always seem to roll with some of the punches, but watching him take those punches I also have to question how he does that without taking any damage. GGG never went down in any of these fights either, Jacobs went down on a push more or less, does that make them cheats PED abusers too? The clenbuterol that he was probably taking was to keep his weight in check, it has no enhancement effects as far as I know and he never tested positive for anything that would enhance his performance or his muscle mass or anything like that. I think Canelo's chin has been good from the start, it's just that he was severly drained at 147 and got caught cold by a punch he didn't see. No more no less.