Don't sleep on Ruiz, he showed a lot in the Parker fight, he controlled the middle rounds, only a late burst by Parker gave him the fight, it was a drawish type fight.
People who are saying Hunter was better need to consider that he was put on queer street multiple times by Usyk. Is he a good fighter? Absolutely...but I think there is a strong chance Joshua just completely overpowers him and stops him in 1 or 2 rounds.
Ruiz has shown good skill, technique, hand speed and a reliable chin/engine. I think this fight is competitive early, Joshua for a tall fighter has an inconsistent jab and he pushes the straight right a bit, he's much better technically at mid-close range, I think Ruiz will bother him there as he has faster hands and he's strong enough to stay in the pocket a little. I do think Joshua's feet prob win him the fight but I like this fight, it's not as easy as people think, and to be honest no one is going to be happy unless it's Fury or Wilder but this is a legit top 10 heavyweight in my opinion
Idksab!
Great call, I'll eat my crow. Never seen this coming especially in that fashion. I'm genuinely still shocked.
What made it even more impressive was he was also fighting the referee! Disgusting officiating and its about time these refs started picking up on AJ grabbing behind the head and pulling guys onto the uppercut then again they're paid off Ruiz had to practically K.O him multiple times before being awarded the win.
Great call, green K
Kudos for being a man about it. Its all in fun...Green K.
Idksab!
Great call, I'll eat my crow. Never seen this coming especially in that fashion. I'm genuinely still shocked.
What made it even more impressive was he was also fighting the referee! Disgusting officiating and its about time these refs started picking up on AJ grabbing behind the head and pulling guys onto the uppercut then again they're paid off Ruiz had to practically K.O him multiple times before being awarded the win.
Great call, green K
Good prediction you made a lot of people in here look like fools.
Good job man. Green sent.
Thanks boys, was not my intention to make anyone look foolish. Life is about opinions.
One thing no one seems to be acknowledging is what a great fight it was
Come to eat some crow :lol1:. AJ didn't may full use of his reach and Ruiz flurried him to death. Hopefully the rematch will see improvements from both. Ruiz cannot make the mistake of getting complacent, the fact that he weighed 268 is not a good look and it'll get him in trouble if AJ fights smarter and loses some mass of his own.
I'm kind of glad that the division has opened up a bit. Maybe the AJ/Wilder hype and fanboyism can take a break.
We all get things wrong, for example I didn't rate Errol Spence all that high when he was a prospect, I had an instinct that he had a poor chin, but he's proved me wrong.
Fair play for owning it though and yes I'm happy to see the back of those threads too. This doesn't apply to you, but my bump was more to show how difficult it is to have an actual conversation about boxing anymore on here. Everyone is always playing devils advocate.
Don't sleep on Ruiz, he showed a lot in the Parker fight, he controlled the middle rounds, only a late burst by Parker gave him the fight, it was a drawish type fight.
People who are saying Hunter was better need to consider that he was put on queer street multiple times by Usyk. Is he a good fighter? Absolutely...but I think there is a strong chance Joshua just completely overpowers him and stops him in 1 or 2 rounds.
Ruiz has shown good skill, technique, hand speed and a reliable chin/engine. I think this fight is competitive early, Joshua for a tall fighter has an inconsistent jab and he pushes the straight right a bit, he's much better technically at mid-close range, I think Ruiz will bother him there as he has faster hands and he's strong enough to stay in the pocket a little. I do think Joshua's feet prob win him the fight but I like this fight, it's not as easy as people think, and to be honest no one is going to be happy unless it's Fury or Wilder but this is a legit top 10 heavyweight in my opinion
Good prediction you made a lot of people in here look like fools.
Ruiz is going to get pounded into ground beef. Joshua's power and reach advantage will simply be too much.
Come to eat some crow :lol1:. AJ didn't may full use of his reach and Ruiz flurried him to death. Hopefully the rematch will see improvements from both. Ruiz cannot make the mistake of getting complacent, the fact that he weighed 268 is not a good look and it'll get him in trouble if AJ fights smarter and loses some mass of his own.
I'm kind of glad that the division has opened up a bit. Maybe the AJ/Wilder hype and fanboyism can take a break.
Yep! These idiots think they know it all. It’s always “Anthony Joshua’s fan these and that” forget your hate, look at the boxing bit, the abilities etc nope. They want to trash his opponents just to make Wilder opponents look better in comparison. Someone even use a fight from 6 years ago to judge how “Terrible” Ruiz is. I watch his fight against Joe Hank and I just thought that guy looked exactly like Joshua and Ruiz stopped him in 4 rounds too.
“Business man Wilder” can let it marinate for another 3 years now. Yeah that’s 100m down the drain lol.
No one is definitely gonna take that 100m again. That's what they get for having pride over money. smh
So many crows to eat in here. Mad props to Ruiz. He deserved the big reward
Phew, a mega huge payday and a high profile win just got blown away. Someone's got to be envious that somebody else took it away.
Whatever became of HWs who won fights they had no business winning....
Buster = 1 hit wonder
Rahman = 1 hit wonder
MCCall = 1 hit wonder
Brewster = 15 minute reign
Sanders = 1 hit wonder
We will add Andy by the end of the year
I doubt it, the standard was a bit higher in those eras. Ruiz isn't a walk over for any of these guys. Tyson Fury who doesn't hold a high opinion of AJ eluded to what I did in this thread, Ruiz is a good, dangerous fighter.
Reading this thread back brings the scale of the upset into perspective. Even the OP didn't go all the way and predict that Ruiz would win. I'm not even gonna act smug because my prediction was the same as pretty much everybody else in the thread.
Yeah honestly I thought Joshua would fight him like he did Parker, which is what he should have done, but you can't blame him for going for it after he knocked him down.
I always saw this as a tricky fight because I felt Ruiz was fast enough to throw with Joshua at mid-close range. These tier 2 fighters in the division are not as far behind Fury, Wilder, and Joshua as these "fans" think
Reading this thread back brings the scale of the upset into perspective. Even the OP didn't go all the way and predict that Ruiz would win. I'm not even gonna act smug because my prediction was the same as pretty much everybody else in the thread.
What good is it having fast hands if you are short with cement feet, zero head movement and the armspan of an average 12yr old against a guy with better feet who stands 6ft6 with an 82" reach and a world class jab?
He is not getting passed that jab, period.
I think this is more wishful thinking than anything tbh but I genuinely hope I am wrong because I just see a big mismatch tbh.
A very good, fundamentally sound huge HW vs a fringe contender type too lazy to make CW.
I think it's fair to say you were wrong. In my opinion you have to sometimes account for things that a fighter might do better in a fight of this magnitude. Ruiz moved his head well and was ready to counter every time Joshua reached for him, things he's done inconsistently in other fights but was fully switched on last night. You could see even in the first couple Joshua wasn't comfortable letting his hands fly, Ruiz is a better judge of distance then you gave him credit for
As I said, he was able to keep composed in the pocket and his chin was good enough. What surprised me was how good his legs were even after the knockdown, his chin and recuperative abilities ultimately made the difference
Good debate though
Yep! These idiots think they know it all. It’s always “Anthony Joshua’s fan these and that” forget your hate, look at the boxing bit, the abilities etc nope. They want to trash his opponents just to make Wilder opponents look better in comparison. Someone even use a fight from 6 years ago to judge how “Terrible” Ruiz is. I watch his fight against Joe Hank and I just thought that guy looked exactly like Joshua and Ruiz stopped him in 4 rounds too.
“Business man Wilder” can let it marinate for another 3 years now. Yeah that’s 100m down the drain lol.
It's so weird man, even now redfoxx won't give it up. It's against the rules here to be an educated boxing fan, maybe my bump was a little obnoxious but no more than the responses I received in a thread where I laid out why Ruiz would give Joshua problems
The truth always comes out in a boxing ring
Yep! These idiots think they know it all. It’s always “Anthony Joshua’s fan these and that” forget your hate, look at the boxing bit, the abilities etc nope. They want to trash his opponents just to make Wilder opponents look better in comparison. Someone even use a fight from 6 years ago to judge how “Terrible” Ruiz is. I watch his fight against Joe Hank and I just thought that guy looked exactly like Joshua and Ruiz stopped him in 4 rounds too.
“Business man Wilder” can let it marinate for another 3 years now. Yeah that’s 100m down the drain lol.