Contrary to the warrior mentality that most Mexican fighters have. You don't usually see a Mexican boxer with the kind of defense, footwork, speed and accuracy that Estrada has shown. Wow. I'm in love with his style.
I would rate him as the 2nd best Mexican in the world behind Canelo. Definitely in my top 10 P4P.
You'll post any lie to fit your agenda. Viloria was never top 10 p4p and certainly not at the time he fought Estrada. And it was a split decision so there was no "schooling" going on.
Very few lists had Sor in the top 5
St.upid, you are not on my level
For example, Viloria beat Segura and Segura was in the Top-20 P4P of The Ring.
Then, he destroyed Hernán Márquez , and was unified champion
He was , no doubt about this, in all the top-15 list of P4P , or 10.
Thats way better than all the rivals of Usy.
His best rival was Gassiev, a guy that is not ****ing in one list of Top-20
Cruiserweight always was a sh.it, historically
Very few?
And how many list had Gassiev in a ****ing top-10 ?
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It's a fact, Estrada had better wins, period.
Hu.ck?
Who the hell is he?
What's his best achievement?
The same with Bellew.
Viloria was top-ten P4P when Gallo schooled him
Sor was top-5 .
Those Wins are waaaaaay better than what Usyk has done.
Cruiserweight is a sh.it division
Always was.
And Usyk can't be champion in heavyweight
You'll post any lie to fit your agenda. Viloria was never top 10 p4p and certainly not at the time he fought Estrada. And it was a split decision so there was no "schooling" going on.
Very few lists had Sor in the top 5
Captain Obvious speaking lol. I think the real boxing heads realized that years ago.
Estrada is definitely not your typical Mexican fighter. That stereotype is old. He is a cerebral boxer.
It’s just unfortunate that he has brittle hands.
Huck and Briedis are quality wins on the level if not superior to Cuadras and Viloria. Also they were beaten in their backyards, always adding to difficulty.
Gallo lost a lot of ground losing that first fight with Sor Rungvisai.
I expected what he did in the rematch first time around. That hurts his ranking and it should.
Top guys don’t lose their biggest fights. Gallo has lost both to Chocolatito and Sor Rungvisai.
No, they are not, Viloria was an Olympian, and a better fighter, Cuadras always was very competitive against elite rivals.
Breidis? Huck?
Gallo avenged 2 of 3 L's.
Thats what Lennox Lewis did.
Hu.ck?
Who the hell is he?
What's his best achievement?
The same with Bellew.
Viloria was top-ten P4P when Gallo schooled him
Sor was top-5 .
Those Wins are waaaaaay better than what Usyk has done.
Cruiserweight is a sh.it division
Always was.
And Usyk can't be champion in heavyweight
Huck and Briedis are quality wins on the level if not superior to Cuadras and Viloria. Also they were beaten in their backyards, always adding to difficulty.
Gallo lost a lot of ground losing that first fight with Sor Rungvisai.
I expected what he did in the rematch first time around. That hurts his ranking and it should.
Top guys don’t lose their biggest fights. Gallo has lost both to Chocolatito and Sor Rungvisai.
Starting with the Huck KO, Usyks last 4 fights including the destruction of Bellew in London are better showings than what Gallo has done.
Gallo shouldn’t have lost the first fight with the Thai fighter, I got him a couple notches below USYK but USYK is a bad man with a tall ceiling. He could possibly challenge for a legit HW titile against AJ or wilder.
Hu.ck?
Who the hell is he?
What's his best achievement?
The same with Bellew.
Viloria was top-ten P4P when Gallo schooled him
Sor was top-5 .
Those Wins are waaaaaay better than what Usyk has done.
Cruiserweight is a sh.it division
Always was.
And Usyk can't be champion in heavyweight
Gallo went down 4 pounds to fight González and it was too close, nothing bad in that.
And the biggest fight of Estrada was this rematch, he got a second title in different division
What's the best rival of Usyk?
Gassiev?
What's the best achievement of Gassiev?
Usyk is a very good fighter but his división sucks.
Thats a reality
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Starting with the Huck KO, Usyks last 4 fights including the destruction of Bellew in London are better showings than what Gallo has done.
Gallo shouldn’t have lost the first fight with the Thai fighter, I got him a couple notches below USYK but USYK is a bad man with a tall ceiling. He could possibly challenge for a legit HW titile against AJ or wilder.
I’ll give you Crawford and Triple G but don’t be silly with USYK.
USYK destroying world champions or former world champs on their turf is far more accomplished than Gallo.
While I believe Gallo would beat Chocolatito in a rematch and more comfortable weight, Gallos biggest fight has been loss to Chocolatito.
Nery in terms of skill and dominance is up there and Berchelt would beat the breaks off any finesse boxer stepping to him.
Berchelt reminds me of Jose Luis Castillo who should have a win over Pretty Boy Floyd. The first fight wasn’t close and a clear win for JLC, just like the rematch for Floyd.
Gallo went down 4 pounds to fight González and it was too close, nothing bad in that.
And the biggest fight of Estrada was this rematch, he got a second title in different division
What's the best rival of Usyk?
Gassiev?
What's the best achievement of Gassiev?
Usyk is a very good fighter but his división sucks.
Thats a reality
0 elite fighters
Gallo is more proven than Usyk, Crawford, GGG and has more solid wins.
Nery and Berchelt are not on that level yet.
Nery needs another Big win.
I’ll give you Crawford and Triple G but don’t be silly with USYK.
USYK destroying world champions or former world champs on their turf is far more accomplished than Gallo.
While I believe Gallo would beat Chocolatito in a rematch and more comfortable weight, Gallos biggest fight has been loss to Chocolatito.
Nery in terms of skill and dominance is up there and Berchelt would beat the breaks off any finesse boxer stepping to him.
Berchelt reminds me of Jose Luis Castillo who should have a win over Pretty Boy Floyd. The first fight wasn’t close and a clear win for JLC, just like the rematch for Floyd.
They offered 10 million dollars before, but the greedy man wanted more money.
He is his daddy and in the third fight in 2020 Canelo would K.O brutally your idol.
He had to hold out until he had enough to properly pay Sanchez. You know Sanchez worth that cake...
They have been many before Mexican fighters just like him.
Mexican are not only face first fighters.
You got Sanchez, Finito Lopez, Marquez brothers, Canelo, etc. In all era these type of Mexican boxers have existed.
^^ I actually thought it was someone else as usually I hate your posts about Nery as they seem like blind countryman patriotism but if you posted nice thought out stuff like this more I would not think that. It's nice to see the you're not just a mexican "puppet". Good stuff. Damn wish they had got Nery instead of Young for the replacement in the wbss so we could have seen if he does have the heart/chin but it will come soon I guess. Lower divisions move nice and fast.
Thanks, man, but I have to be rude sometimes, there is a lot of hate against the mexican boxing.
Yeah, I agree, more skills, heart, speed, pure art. :boxing:
More like his daddy that the son waited to age before trying...
They offered 10 million dollars before, but the greedy man wanted more money.
He is his daddy and in the third fight in 2020 Canelo would K.O brutally your idol.
It's incredible, there are a lot of mexican haters in this forum
Lol
GGG is sh.it and the son of Nelo period
More like his daddy that the son waited to age before trying...
Man, you don't know what's the style of mexican boxing.
And i'm sorry if I was aggressive but I'm tired of hear that kind of things.
Thats because the stupid media of U SA always says that sh.it.
First of all.
México has more of 165 champions of the world .
There a lot
One thing is be an aggressive fighter, another is does not have skills.
Morales was a skillful fighter with an aggressive style.
There are level of mexican fighters.
-Elite level (Chávez, Sánchez, Morales, Márquez, Canelo, Olivares, Barrera, Ricardo López, Estrada, Zarate, Gilberto Román, Miguel Canto, José Luis Ramírez, Vicente Saldivar, Arizmendi, etc).
Most of them are great máster of the ring with a lot of skills and heart.
-A level: José Luis Castillo, Rafa Márquez, Israel Vázquez, Miguel Berchelt, Rey Vargas, Humberto Soto, Gilberto Ramírez, Cuadras, Jorge Páez, Óscar Valdez.
They are very good fighters with skills but not on the level of the élite fighters.
-Warriors: Margarito, Salido, Francisco Vargas, Giovani Segura.
They are all heart, volume punchers, crazy stamina, good chin, a few skills, power, etc.
Yeah you're right. I meant it in praise, Mexicans are often refered to as warriors being able to dig deep and take punishment. Estrada just has a style I love so much. I enjoyed watching Morales school Pacquiao in their first fight. Thanks for naming those great fighters and apologies for any offense.
He is damn good but he still attacks like a warrior but with great skill on offense and defense. There are other Mexicans like that these days and he is outstanding.
There is no such thing as “Mexican style” but if I could put one attribute that most Mexican fighters have is heart aka balls... they fight with a lot of it. Most of them
There is no "typical" Mexican style. Ricardo Lopez was a great Mexican champion who used his superior technical skills to beat his opponents. Marco Antonio Barrera could brawl at times but he evolved into a skilled boxer puncher as his career went on.
Thanks, man
^^ I actually thought it was someone else as usually I hate your posts about Nery as they seem like blind countryman patriotism but if you posted nice thought out stuff like this more I would not think that. It's nice to see the you're not just a mexican "puppet". Good stuff. Damn wish they had got Nery instead of Young for the replacement in the wbss so we could have seen if he does have the heart/chin but it will come soon I guess. Lower divisions move nice and fast.