You all keep demanding Spence-Crawford without even realizing that there are other fights between the two stables that can and should be made. What happened to the demand for Loma-Garcia or Wilder-Fury II? Heck will Bob even make Loma-Lopez, a fight in his own stable?
In my mind Loma-Garcia is the test run of business between TR and PBC, if they can't make that happen then forget about Spence-Crawford. Why is Crawford the only fighter Arum is trying to shop to PBC?
I understood bro. It's relevant though to Arum saying PBC is stopping ANY other fight from being made, when Arum so obviously torpedoed the Wilder-Fury fight (where Top Rank & PBC could have cooperated and made the fight).
Now, Arum wants cooperation. He could have stepped forward right there and had it.
Yea, definitely. But, that's a separate topic I wasn't really talking about. They're both promoters doing promoter things. That's why I don't like any of them.
He said, "...there are other fights between the two stables that can and should be made. What happened to the demand for Loma-Garcia or Wilder-Fury II?"
I'm saying, it was killed. Why should we still be demanding it/talking about it?
I understood bro. It's relevant though to Arum saying PBC is stopping ANY other fight from being made, when Arum so obviously torpedoed the Wilder-Fury fight (where Top Rank & PBC could have cooperated and made the fight).
Now, Arum wants cooperation. He could have stepped forward right there and had it.
Fans want Crawford vs Spence and it seems the PBC side is not willing to cooperate. At the rate it's going, fight will become stale, fighters no longer as fresh, whoever wins or loses no longer matters.
I'm sure if Arum puts the right $ out there, or gets out of the way and lets PBC promote it, it will get made. PBC responds that the fight is not large enough to have co-promotion between two networks (and it's not). It could go on one network. Showtime could do it or ESPN. Problem is somebody's not gonna promote. I don't hear Arum/Top Rank volunteering to watch PBC do it. Neither is PBC volunteering to let Top Rank do it.
There you go .... stalemate. No more PBC's fault thatn it is Arum's.
That was the point I believe, Arum killed it. He should have encouraged it to go forward, it was already negotiated and 95% set to go. Then he wants to point fingers about Spence/Crawford. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle ...
He said, "...there are other fights between the two stables that can and should be made. What happened to the demand for Loma-Garcia or Wilder-Fury II?"
I'm saying, it was killed. Why should we still be demanding it/talking about it?
Fury/Wilder II was killed when Fury switched promotions and that's been talked to death so I'm not even getting into that again.
That was the point I believe, Arum killed it. He should have encouraged it to go forward, it was already negotiated and 95% set to go. Then he wants to point fingers about Spence/Crawford. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle ...
Forget about Loma/Garcia , Garcia should NOT comeback down and end up like Roy Jones/Kell Brook beatdown
Wilder vs Fury will be made before Crawford/Spence
What about at 140?
The lighter and heavier weights are unattractive to fans. They are treated as undercard fights, especially in the US.
Fans want Crawford vs Spence and it seems the PBC side is not willing to cooperate. At the rate it's going, fight will become stale, fighters no longer as fresh, whoever wins or loses no longer matters.
Boxing has never been a sport since time immemorial. It's a business. What's strange is when some fans are behaving as if they're personally involved in the business.
PBC really has no need to rush that fight, they literally have 3 of the ww champs in their own stable..why would they not make those fights first?
The lighter and heavier weights are unattractive to fans. They are treated as undercard fights, especially in the US.
Fans want Crawford vs Spence and it seems the PBC side is not willing to cooperate. At the rate it's going, fight will become stale, fighters no longer as fresh, whoever wins or loses no longer matters.
Boxing has never been a sport since time immemorial. It's a business. What's strange is when some fans are behaving as if they're personally involved in the business.
mikey can’t make 135 anymore fam
Forget about Loma/Garcia , Garcia should NOT comeback down and end up like Roy Jones/Kell Brook beatdown
Wilder vs Fury will be made before Crawford/Spence
^These.
People talk about Loma/Mikey all the time and Arum wants to try to get Mikey to face Loma at 135. Where you been?
Fury/Wilder II was killed when Fury switched promotions and that's been talked to death so I'm not even getting into that again.
Forget about Loma/Garcia , Garcia should NOT comeback down and end up like Roy Jones/Kell Brook beatdown
Wilder vs Fury will be made before Crawford/Spence
You all keep demanding Spence-Crawford without even realizing that there are other fights between the two stables that can and should be made. What happened to the demand for Loma-Garcia or Wilder-Fury II? Heck will Bob even make Loma-Lopez, a fight in his own stable?
In my mind Loma-Garcia is the test run of business between TR and PBC, if they can't make that happen then forget about Spence-Crawford. Why is Crawford the only fighter Arum is trying to shop to PBC?mikey can’t make 135 anymore fam