They Trying To Get the Spence Hate Ball Rolling

I just think its funny how people act like 3 top 147lbers didn't duck him..Then ignore boxing politics and say he\TC ducking. Then act like Mikey didnt call him out multiple times b4 he decided to fight him. Dudes have agendas ya kno picking/choosing facts to hate on boxers

Honestly I don't care about any of that, your initial post said you supported PBC not doing business with TR. I agree Spence is in the driver's seat, just based on all the options he has. But it doesn't seem like that's a fight they're event considering at the moment. They aren't considering it at the moment, Haymon is a smart businessman, they'll deal with Arum whenever it's best for business. I highly doubt that's now

I support PBC doing business with Top Rank so long as TR recognize they have no leverage to demand parity. Spence is clearly in the driver's seat not Crawford and so is Haymon, maybe that's the part you don't like! Honestly I don't care about any of that, your initial post said you supported PBC not doing business with TR. I agree Spence is in the driver's seat, just based on all the options he has. But it doesn't seem like that's a fight they're event considering at the moment.

So you saying it was just Pac saying blood test make him weak? I certainly recall Arum (and Fans like you) repeating the same bogus lines over and over whenever Floyd was brought up. The **** are you talking about. Our discussion pertains to Arum. Did he not agree to a 50 50 split during the first negotiations to make the Pac/Mayweather fight? You trying to pin Pac's refusal to do testing on him is horse**** and a deflection. I could say the same stupid **** and blame Haymon for not convincing Floyd to retract his demand for testing. Pac is an idiot who turned down a 50 50 split that Bob Arum, Al Haymon, and Floyd Mayweather all agreed to just to turn around and relent to years later. To this day he is suspect for that ****. Arum wants the same 50 50 split for Crawford/Spence. Guess which side isn't willing to play ball.

Just stop man. I gave you the facts. Now its shoulda coulda from you. So you saying it was just Pac saying blood test make him weak? I certainly recall Arum (and Fans like you) repeating the same bogus lines over and over whenever Floyd was brought up.

Arum made final decisions, he allowed the stupid scared of needles theme to grow and marinate when he should of shut it down Just stop man. I gave you the facts. Now its shoulda coulda from you.

Do your research man Pac sued Mayweather afterward. How many years later did he finally agree to unrestricted blood testing when he should have just agreed in the first place when everyone from Floyd to Bob Arum agreed to a 50 50 split. Don't try to rewrite history. I answered your question yes Arum during the very first negotiations was willing to make the fight asking for the same 50 50 split he is now asking for Crawford/Spence. Arum had **** all to do with homeboy not wanting to do the testing. Arum made final decisions, he allowed the stupid scared of needles theme to grow and marinate when he should of shut it down

Exactly .. ALL fans are losers here. thats why i dont get why PBC lovers are so happy this fight wont happen anytime soon. both PBC and TR fanboys should be up in arms demanding this. I truly believe crawford is at his peak prime now. same for Spence. as a FAN i dont wanna wait. but too many fans are living in this fantasy world where they personally get a cut of PPV sales and act like wannabe advisors and accountants Because minus Crawford the best fights for fans are still Spence versus any top fighter in the stable.

If Blood test was the only reason to not make that fight Arum would of made it shortly thereafter but the excuses kept coming and they kept moving the goal posts. In the meantime we fighting Clottey, we fighting Margarito, we fighting Mosley, we fighting Bradley 3 times, we Jeff Horn, we fighting Marquez who Floyd already beat again, we fighting Algieri, and finally when I'm out of stable we'll see if Mayweather is still available to cash out Manny. Do your research man Pac sued Mayweather afterward. How many years later did he finally agree to unrestricted blood testing when he should have just agreed in the first place when everyone from Floyd to Bob Arum agreed to a 50 50 split. Don't try to rewrite history. I answered your question yes Arum during the very first negotiations was willing to make the fight asking for the same 50 50 split he is now asking for Crawford/Spence. Arum had **** all to do with homeboy not wanting to do the testing.

That's why I'm laying it out there now, no need to figure it out, two different networks, two different promoters, one named Al one named Arum, so we already know how that's going to go. I'll get excited about fights that can happen not fights that can't. Exactly .. ALL fans are losers here. thats why i dont get why PBC lovers are so happy this fight wont happen anytime soon. both PBC and TR fanboys should be up in arms demanding this. I truly believe crawford is at his peak prime now. same for Spence. as a FAN i dont wanna wait. but too many fans are living in this fantasy world where they personally get a cut of PPV sales and act like wannabe advisors and accountants

man im not getting caught up in it like the Floyd n Pac mess. lets just all sit back and wait 6 years for it.. fck it . all i know is in a couple years these wont be prime elites clashing anymore. fans are losers in this That's why I'm laying it out there now, no need to figure it out, two different networks, two different promoters, one named Al one named Arum, so we already know how that's going to go. I'll get excited about fights that can happen not fights that can't.

The first serious negotiations between the camps began in December 2009 with Manny Pacquiao having beaten Ricky Hatton seven months earlier for his light welterweight titles and Mayweather coming off his victory over Juan Manuel Marquez after a 21-month hiatus. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao agreed to fight one another on March 13, 2010. Each boxer would take half of the $50 million purse. But before things could be made official, Mayweather demanded Olympic style blood testing administered by the United States Anti-Doping Agency. This particular style of testing, which up until recent Mayweather fights was not enforced in non-Olympic boxing matches, requires each fighter to allow random blood and urine tests throughout training and up until the day of the fight. Pacquiao did not agree to the proposed style of testing as he preferred either scheduled tests or a cutoff date for blood testing at least seven days before the fights. Reasons for Pacquiao's request have included his fear of needles (despite having a few tattoos) and his belief that drawing blood too close to the fight date will weaken him. After mediating possible testing windows before a former judge, both camps were unable to reach an agreement and negotiations officially ended on January 7, 2010. - Complex Agreed 50-50 split just like he wants with Spence/Crawford. Tell me what Arum had to do with Pac's refusal to do blood testing. People try to rewrite history good thing we have the internet to fact check. If Blood test was the only reason to not make that fight Arum would of made it shortly thereafter but the excuses kept coming and they kept moving the goal posts. In the meantime we fighting Clottey, we fighting Margarito, we fighting Mosley, we fighting Bradley 3 times, we Jeff Horn, we fighting Marquez who Floyd already beat again, we fighting Algieri, and finally when I'm out of stable we'll see if Mayweather is still available to cash out Manny.

Didn't Bob have Pac fight every fighter in Top Rank's stable before he even considered putting him in with Floyd? Spence has quite a few PBC fighters to match up and unify with before a Crawford fight is even relevant for his team. Once again is there any point in dealing with another network and promoter when he got Fox/Showtime in the pocket? The first serious negotiations between the camps began in December 2009 with Manny Pacquiao having beaten Ricky Hatton seven months earlier for his light welterweight titles and Mayweather coming off his victory over Juan Manuel Marquez after a 21-month hiatus. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao agreed to fight one another on March 13, 2010. Each boxer would take half of the $50 million purse. But before things could be made official, Mayweather demanded Olympic style blood testing administered by the United States Anti-Doping Agency. This particular style of testing, which up until recent Mayweather fights was not enforced in non-Olympic boxing matches, requires each fighter to allow random blood and urine tests throughout training and up until the day of the fight. Pacquiao did not agree to the proposed style of testing as he preferred either scheduled tests or a cutoff date for blood testing at least seven days before the fights. Reasons for Pacquiao's request have included his fear of needles (despite having a few tattoos) and his belief that drawing blood too close to the fight date will weaken him. After mediating possible testing windows before a former judge, both camps were unable to reach an agreement and negotiations officially ended on January 7, 2010. - Complex Agreed 50-50 split just like he wants with Spence/Crawford. Tell me what Arum had to do with Pac's refusal to do blood testing. People try to rewrite history good thing we have the internet to fact check.

Really, so how many PPV's and financial records have Mikey sold and broken? BTW, I would love to see the fight but there's no need to concede to any of Bob's demands, fight on Showtime/PPV, Haymon controls the promotion, and Top Rank gets the small pot. Do that and I'm sure the fight will happen. man im not getting caught up in it like the Floyd n Pac mess. lets just all sit back and wait 6 years for it.. fck it . all i know is in a couple years these wont be prime elites clashing anymore. fans are losers in this

There are actually people who want to see Spence destroy Crawford. You can't necessarily assume they're rooting for Crawford to win. So this hate thing simply because he's with PBC seems irrelevant. Well, there are people who really hate anything coming from the other side no matter what. Reality is, fans would rather see the Crawford fight now rather than later. After the Porter fight, then what's next for Spence? 40 yr old Pac? Thurman and Garcia want to rematch each other or Pac, and want no part of Spence.

Spence came across like a hoe who has future plans of ducking. why is he taking credit for the PPV sales vs Mikey? we all know the mexican-american base runs boxing. he aint no PPV star. lets see them put his fight vs Porter there then.. exactly. Crawford is 31 theres no time to marinate. only in boxing do u see fans clamoring NOT to see the best matchups Really, so how many PPV's and financial records have Mikey sold and broken? BTW, I would love to see the fight but there's no need to concede to any of Bob's demands, fight on Showtime/PPV, Haymon controls the promotion, and Top Rank gets the small pot. Do that and I'm sure the fight will happen.

Spence came across like a hoe who has future plans of ducking. why is he taking credit for the PPV sales vs Mikey? we all know the mexican-american base runs boxing. he aint no PPV star. lets see them put his fight vs Porter there then.. exactly. Crawford is 31 theres no time to marinate. only in boxing do u see fans clamoring NOT to see the best matchups

Actually the opposite seems to be the "truth" to me. I see people trying to justify Spence not fighting Crawford because "Crawford made his bed by signing with Top Rank, now he has to lay in it.", "Spence has all the top welters in his camp there is no need to face Crawford", "Crawford needs to leave Top Rank if he wants the fight", etc. I know there are people working for PBC posting in here, protecting Spence and Wilder. Just like in politics, the people accusing "the other side" of things are typically the ones doing the dirt. It's a tactic taken from the NAZIs and adopted by the CIA actually. Lots of people are doing it in other arenas and for other purposes but I suspect you already know that. https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F8f%2F05%2F86%2F8f05863aff89773ba2fb1400a5f5bbb0.jpg&f=1 Spence aint doing nothing but going in the ring and winning, is it his fault he got good promotiion and great matchup's in his future and Crawfod don't?

It might seem that way, but I think it's frustration towards pbc at the moment. People love spence on here to a deluded level. I think im the only true spence hater, and I dont hate him. Just the hype. I see no reason to hate Spence, he goes in the ring and handles business, to hate on that is silly.

Bob Arum must have employees working for Top Rank on this forum. I see the feeler threads being thrown out there trying to see how many dim witted fans they can hook. Who else notices the developing theme from certain posters, "Spence ducking Crawford" " Spence is racists look what he said about Golden Boy", "Spence hiding behind Haymon", "Crawford would of knocked out Mikey, who's better?" etc ... Everything they write is written and slanted to be anti-Spence. So to counter the nonsense here is what I think..Spence is the best welter in boxing, should be top 3 p4p, would beat any current fighter at 147 today including Crawford! I completely support PBC not doing business with Arum especially when you are selling more ppv than his best fighters and you have Pac, Porter, Garcia, Thurman, Broner, Spence etc...in your stable. If Top Rank wants Crawford-Spence then TR will sacrifice to make it happen..no 50/50! Spence clearly has the leverage and he should rightfully use it! If you haters don't like that his message to Crawford is get in line then too bad! What you can do is keep watching ESPN+ mismatches on PPV. All of you know Crawford has 0 opponents in Bob's stable that any fan wants to see. TR has nothing they can offer Haymon that he can't get from his own fighters and events. And on top of that there's the X factor...Floyd Money Mayweather, all he got to do is say I'm coming back and the boxing world empties their pockets! Top Rank and Golden Boy have already lost. PBC got it on lock! So if you can't understand promotion, business, and leverage then keep writing your hater threads, all that means is PBC and Spence are doing something right. The Truth #1 Actually the opposite seems to be the "truth" to me. I see people trying to justify Spence not fighting Crawford because "Crawford made his bed by signing with Top Rank, now he has to lay in it.", "Spence has all the top welters in his camp there is no need to face Crawford", "Crawford needs to leave Top Rank if he wants the fight", etc. I know there are people working for PBC posting in here, protecting Spence and Wilder. Just like in politics, the people accusing "the other side" of things are typically the ones doing the dirt. It's a tactic taken from the NAZIs and adopted by the CIA actually. Lots of people are doing it in other arenas and for other purposes but I suspect you already know that. https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F8f%2F05%2F86%2F8f05863aff89773ba2fb1400a5f5bbb0.jpg&f=1