After Ortiz manager comments yesterday
Is this still possible ?
Sounds like either Ruiz or Hunter is lined up already but they are just holding off Incase Ortiz will accept first?
At 5 million in a winnable fight to unify world titles, only an idiot wouldn’t accept.
At 6.5-7 it’s a no brainer.
His family would be set off one fight for life, take the fight Ortiz!!
All you have to do is look at the people saying that or "hold out for more", they are not really boxing fans are they for real?
They don’t want it. They don’t want to see the difference between Joshua and wilder.
That’s also why they’re celebrating Wilder turning down a fight with AJ. You’re dealing with a group of people who’d rather pay $100 for a PPV event than get it for free with DAZN (at the time w/ one free month) due to their “allegiance” with Al Haymon.
That’s the level of intelligence these people have.
Absolute cringe.
Judging by an interview on sky sports
Hearn is done with Ortiz due to his promoter. He believes Ortiz is being saved to fight wilder next with a deal done by Haymon and Ortiz promoter
... it's also here, actually:
https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-joshua-destroy-luis-ortiz-three-no-problem--138422
Still hope they make a deal.
Looks like Ruiz though.
Judging by an interview on sky sports
Hearn is done with Ortiz due to his promoter. He believes Ortiz is being saved to fight wilder next with a deal done by Haymon and Ortiz promoter
the worst thing is people trying to say it was a lowball offer.
I don't know what planet these people are living on, but obviously that's an amazing offer for basically zero promotional work.
Just show up clean.
Still hope they make a deal.
Looks like Ruiz though.
Hearn showing he’s a smart business man. Still time for Ortiz to correct his error and make life changing money he won’t see again.
If not they clearly had a plan B, and probably a plan C. No need to wait on this guy.
the worst thing is people trying to say it was a lowball offer.
I don't know what planet these people are living on, but obviously that's an amazing offer for basically zero promotional work.
Just show up clean.
All you have to do is look at the people saying that or "hold out for more", they are not really boxing fans are they for real?
Hearn's saying MORE than 5 Million too.
Ortiz's team would be foolish to not try and salvage that.
the worst thing is people trying to say it was a lowball offer.
I don't know what planet these people are living on, but obviously that's an amazing offer for basically zero promotional work.
Just show up clean.
I have to give Joshua props for honesty trying to make a fight with Ortiz as a replacement.
Some American fans will say Hearn and Joshua don't want that fight and some UK fans will say Ortiz isn't a dangerous opponent but none of that is true.
Why are you trying to use UK slang? :lol1:
hahaha
You and your bs was found out by Ortiz's own manager. That shows the lack of intelligence you have, mixed with incredible bias.
So idiotic
5mIlLioN iS a lOWbAlL oFfEr dOe :dunce:
Hearn's saying MORE than 5 Million too.
Ortiz's team would be foolish to not try and salvage that.
Promoters are pros, and VADA cant intervene when two promoters allow what’s at play. It doesn’t mean they’re allowed to juice, but if a nano trace is present, it would as you say, the fight would go on, and the public wouldn’t know about that as it would ruin the integrity for what’s allowed in boxing even after Miller’s case. Contracts overrule everything. As of now, Matchroom is trying to salvage the fight, and tolerance will be welcomed, especially if they can add Ortiz to AJ’s resume.
Nope.. VADA email the relevant authorities at the comission overseeing the bout aswell.. and they are in control of granting licenses.
Unless it was a minute trace, easily explained in a very short amount of time then they wouldn't be granted a license regardless of a promoters sway
Waste of time. Ortiz doesn't want the fight even though he said earlier he would fight AJ for free to beat him and be the champ. Just big talk he won't back up.
It’s #2, and Espinoza is a big part of it. Espinoza been a huge spokesperson for Wilder as of late, justifying network loyalty. Espinoza also knows that DAZN is rising fast, so they need to preserve Wilder’s PPV reasoning to Showtime execs etc..
Another reason could be that Hearn could easily have put in the $5-7mill contract that if any adverse findings were to be present, the fight is still a go, non-disclosed, but team Ortiz is penalized 80% of the purse. So why would Team Ortiz even bring that up to the public. It puts Matchroom in the better seat for public opinion.
At this point if Ortiz takes this fight and he fails a test i would not be shocked if the fight still goes ahead.
I have no idea what to believe with team Ortiz. I never liked his manager either.
Do I believe Ortiz wanted to fight? Of course.
No one fighter can be that stupid to turn down such a massive pay day. Even though the typical idiots here said it was lowball. Lol.
Only alternative is that he was cycling that Cuban juice
I definitely believe Ortiz wanted that fight. The only reason that fight wasn't accepted from his side is either : (1) He was on PEDs or (2) Haymon blocked it.
There is NO way Jimenez wasn't prior to what was on offer, he might have informed Haymon and was told to turn it down.
That line about "Am not going to be bullied by Hearn and I never have this sort of issues from Haymon" made me question everyone of them.
If Haymon had nothing to do with it why was he talking about Haymon in his statement?
In regards to these PBC loyalist, just ignore them, I laugh at every single one of their posts, they are so dumb its not even funny. They write whatever suit their PBC narratives....5m lowball offer? lol..Ok retards
You actually believe that BS about some promoter? They are trying to deflect this s hit! There is no way Jimenez wasn’t in the knowing. If dade promotions is Haymon then yeah I believe Team Ortiz.
I have no idea what to believe with team Ortiz. I never liked his manager either.
Do I believe Ortiz wanted to fight? Of course.
No one fighter can be that stupid to turn down such a massive pay day. Even though the typical idiots here said it was lowball. Lol.
Only alternative is that he was cycling that Cuban juice
Eddie Hearn “AJ announcement Sunday , still time if Ortiz wants to accept the offer”
After Ortiz manager comments yesterday
Is this still possible ?
Sounds like either Ruiz or Hunter is lined up already but they are just holding off Incase Ortiz will accept first?
... do you have a link for this on Hearn's Twitter account as well?...
Ortiz is a coward, hope he won't get this payday after all. I don't care who it is, stop stalling Eddie and announce the fight already, you have been saying the same crap all week.