should erroll spence be added to the certified HOE list ??

Right now, Spence just has more options than Crawford. I don't have a problem with Spence taking a couple fights with opponents who offer a challenge, before he faces Crawford. I don't think there are any WWs on the PBC payroll who can beat him, but he should look to unify with a fight against Porter. These corrupt sanctioning bodies are just a much to blame. They need to recognize who is most deserving of title shots and make those fights happen. Force Danny, Thurman or Porter to fight Spence as mandatories. Enforce more mandatories based upon quality wins and most deserving. Lets not have a guy like Jeff Horn with 16 fights getting titles shots and being ranked #2, or Josesito Lopez jumping to the head of the line. Spence and Crawford will still be in their prime in 2020. Marinate it for a year and build it up. Put on a decent undercard.

I honestly think Spence wants to fight Crawford, his confidence seems genuine, I just don't think Haymon fancies that risk atm, especially when he can make big fights between Spence, Thurman and Porter first. Spence has time on his side, Crawford doesn't and while I still favour Crawford in that fight as of right now, I'm not sure this would be the case in a year or 2. Haymon fighters have shown when they want to fight the best they easily can do so, look how easily badou jack got in there with dirrell, groves, bute, degale, stevenson. There was a funny excerpt from degale talking about how he was begging haymon for a badou jack fight and haymon was asking him if he wouldnt rather chavez jr instead, of which degale responded "uhh, no. The pnly ones that can make this fight are the fans and reporters, ask the questions, pressure spence, and all he has to do is say, make the fight al, and it's done. I'm still happy with a porter fight, but at the same time if both these guys are at the apex of the division and neither is getting younger, lets see it now, spence hasnt had a real fight since brook, and same with crawfords last fight, no more stay busy bouts.

I honestly think Spence wants to fight Crawford, his confidence seems genuine, I just don't think Haymon fancies that risk atm, especially when he can make big fights between Spence, Thurman and Porter first. Spence has time on his side, Crawford doesn't and while I still favour Crawford in that fight as of right now, I'm not sure this would be the case in a year or 2.

You are being unfair to Spence. You really seem to dislike him and are always attacking him. Crawford and Spence can't make the fight in today's boxing world. Arum and Haymon and their respective networks have to come together and make the fight. If they ever do then the great fight will happen. Blame them for the fight not happening. Don't blame Spence because he can't do anything about it. He can tell Haymon get me the Crawford fight but Haymon does what he wants as does Arum. This is nonsense. If Spence presses the issue he can fight Crawford this year. Al Haymon aint no damn don. remember he promised Khan a Mayweather fight and never delivered. if Spence makes noise that he ONLY wants bud it'll happen. why are people so in favor of letting this fight marinate? how old is Crawford again? save that nonsense

Spence is a certified hoe.

ill say it to their face armed with a baseball bat. :lol1::lol1: I like your answer!

You are being unfair to Spence. You really seem to dislike him and are always attacking him. Crawford and Spence can't make the fight in today's boxing world. Arum and Haymon and their respective networks have to come together and make the fight. If they ever do then the great fight will happen. Blame them for the fight not happening. Don't blame Spence because he can't do anything about it. He can tell Haymon get me the Crawford fight but Haymon does what he wants as does Arum. Are you sure about that? I mean, a fighter can turn down a fight. We see it all of the time. Are you saying that fighters can't also be instrument in making fights happen?

That’s because you’re a coward. I’m sure you’d also press charges lol.i was joking butt plug you think I’m scared of some puny man pro or otherwise.The only thing I’d be pressing is my foot up your ass so far you’ll taste my shoe laces.

no way. i wouldn't ever put Spence on that kind of list. that's reserved for Anthony Joshua and lomachicken.

Would you fight anyone on that list? If no what does that make you perhaps the word you use to describe pro boxers who live as warriors while they are active. Have you ever faced a world class opponent that could break you're face with there fists?

you should say this to all those boxers faces You know he won’t. He’d get his jaw broke real quick then he’d run to the courts and try to sue

The Arum Effect is still strong I see. Old man is still working his magic on gullible fools.

ill say it to their face armed with a baseball bat. That’s because you’re a coward. I’m sure you’d also press charges lol.

the certified HOE list is expanding. if spence keeps using Haymon's scrotum as a blanket im gonna throw his name in it luis ortiz - fake ass boogeyman rigo - quitter lil g - sniffin canelos ass jarrell miller - fat juiced up mofo tank davis - loma ducker i dont wanna have to add spence to this but hes pushing it FIGHT CRAWFORD MOFO fights vs porter/danny/pacquiao is all good but none present the threat bud does. Even in shape Ortiz is too old. I DONT want to see G/ Canelo again. Whose Miller?? I think they should do Tank Loma. I know there scared of Lomas experience but tank is just a monster.

the certified HOE list is expanding. if spence keeps using Haymon's scrotum as a blanket im gonna throw his name in it luis ortiz - fake ass boogeyman rigo - quitter lil g - sniffin canelos ass jarrell miller - fat juiced up mofo tank davis - loma ducker i dont wanna have to add spence to this but hes pushing it FIGHT CRAWFORD MOFO fights vs porter/danny/pacquiao is all good but none present the threat bud does. Who doesnt want to see the best fight the best. I want to see Spence vs Crawford tomorrow but lets be real. Neither have cleaned out the division. That should happen first. Then fight.

The deal should be you can add them to that list only if you can say it in their face. These fighters not hard to find I can even set it up for you. Was in the gym with Spence not too long ago. If you can’t say it in their face then you should add yourself to that list.ill say it to their face armed with a baseball bat.

Yes. I know he's the golden boy on here so he cant be insulted but other fighters would get absolutely crucified if they were taking the attitude spence is in regards to fighting crawford. When joshua v wilder didnt happen immediately after that first set of difficult negotations joshua was called every name under the sun. But with spence, 'oh its cool hes not interested, no rush, his side of the street, he got porter, something about bob arum doe'. If spence wasn't american then this forum would be singing a very very different tune. You are being unfair to Spence. You really seem to dislike him and are always attacking him. Crawford and Spence can't make the fight in today's boxing world. Arum and Haymon and their respective networks have to come together and make the fight. If they ever do then the great fight will happen. Blame them for the fight not happening. Don't blame Spence because he can't do anything about it. He can tell Haymon get me the Crawford fight but Haymon does what he wants as does Arum.

Hell no. Spence can't make the Crawford fight. If he could he would. He went to hostile England to win his title from a respected champion and he tried to get fights with Thurman, Danny Garcia, Porter and Pacquiao but they all said no thanks. He fights champion Porter next which is what good champions do when they get the chance to. Spence fears no welterweight. If a fair money offer is actually on the table to fight Crawford and all the network and promoter BS has been ironed out then Spence will fight Crawford and I think he will beat him. Crawford is also willing to fight Spence. In today's boxing boxers can't make these big fights on their own.

The deal should be you can add them to that list only if you can say it in their face. These fighters not hard to find I can even set it up for you. Was in the gym with Spence not too long ago. If you can’t say it in their face then you should add yourself to that list. ok. u never seen the videos of fans urging Floyd to fight Pacquiao and calling him a chicken sht? i would tell Spence to stop being a hoe to his face. wtf is he gonna do? ima fan of both thats why i dont support them acting like hoes.

The deal should be you can add them to that list only if you can say it in their face. These fighters not hard to find I can even set it up for you. Was in the gym with Spence not too long ago. If you can’t say it in their face then you should add yourself to that list.