So, if you're a smaller boxer everything's fine and dandy for you, you only have a 5-10lb gap between each weight class but once you get past Light Heavyweight what on earth is with the 25+lb gap?!
Like Cruiserweight is too large for me but Light Heavyweight is probably too small for me? I'm unsure if I can even cut to that... Seems a bit unfair. Will they ever invent a belt that's between the two divisions?
Opinions?
So, if you're a smaller boxer everything's fine and dandy for you, you only have a 5-10lb gap between each weight class but once you get past Light Heavyweight what on earth is with the 25+lb gap?!
Like Cruiserweight is too large for me but Light Heavyweight is probably too small for me? I'm unsure if I can even cut to that... Seems a bit unfair. Will they ever invent a belt that's between the two divisions?
Opinions?
Its simply a devised system in one on one combat sports to average out power to weight.
As you go up in size your muscle and power percentage jumps faster than your weight does, weight alone in momentum increases power at the cost of speed, this is why 5lb to a little guy is equivalent to 20lb in a big guy, a big guy can give 20lbs away a little get killed giving 20lbs away.
I do to some extent. Amateur boxing had 11 weight classes (12 with superheavy) and it was much too many. Here in profexxional boxing there are even more. All because of stupid belts from 5 stupid organizations.
Yea I agree 100%. I've commented on this numerous times & even did a comparison on % of body weight from big to small divisions & small to weight divisions that I got saved as a note lol.
I'd like to see a consistent % bump in weight divisions all the way up.
This is what it is now:
105
108 (2.8% bump)
112 (3.7% bump)
115 (2.6% bump)
118 (2.6% bump)
122 (3.3% bump)
126 (3.2% bump)
130 (3.1% bump)
135 (3.8% bump)
140 (3.7% bump)
147 (5.0% bump)
154 (4.7% bump)
160 (3.8% bump)
168 (5.0% bump)
175 (4.1% bump)
200 (14.2% bump)
200+ (10%-20% bump)
*if we assume the avg HW weight is 220-240lbs
There are too f#cking many lil guy divisions. Avg bump from 105 to 140 is 3.2%. Avg bump from 140 to 175 is 4.4%. Avg jump from 175 to HW is 12.1% to 17.1%. Avg bump from top to bottom is 4.7% to 5.3%.
If we split the difference on the 4.7%-5.3% avg we get a 5% avg. If there was a 5% jump all the way up from 105 this is what the divisions would look like (rounded up).
105
110
116
122
128
134
141
148
155
163
171
180
189
198
207
207+
You kill 1 division by doing this & most drastically you notice lil guy divisions (105-140/141) went from 10 divisions to 7 divisions & bigger guy divisions (147/148 to HW) went from 7 divisions to 9 divisions with a even bump in body weight %.
Was searching the internet wondering why the jumps in weight get so high, was thinking about working out the percentage myself so thanks for saving me the headache.
Another point to note is the number of fighters listed in each division, used boxrec for this info.
At heavyweight down to middleweight its around 1000-1400 per division
Rising to 1500-2200 from super welter down to bantamweight
Below this the numbers dwindle rapidly
Ony 235 listed in minimum weight and 400 in light flyweight
Changing the weight classes would raise the talent pool in the lower weights and may even make them a little more popular. I would personally raise minimum weight to 108lb and then split as evenly as possible and make heavyweight 210lb
On average we are getting bigger so makes sense to adjust accordingly
Criuserweight was originally 190 for guys who could not make 175 but were too small to fight 210 to 240 pound heavyweights. It made sense. Then they raised it to 200 and with weigh ins 32 hours before the fight many cruiserweights were really 215 pound heavyweights in the ring. That is what Foreman weighed when he won the title. Today's cruiserweights are really heavyweights much bigger than many heavyweight champs of the past. Wilder could make cruiserweight with no problem and only weighed 209 fully hydrated for Fury.
You know I started out at 165 and when I would spar with a 178 lb guy the weight and strength could seem insurmountable at times but when I grew older I landed at 201 and sometimes at smokers they would say 205 give or take a pound so I would still have to make weight but then there would be to many guys that showed up at that weight and I would have to fight a sh 30or 40pounds over my weight and it didn’t bother me nowhere as much as that ten or so pounds at 165.Even sparring the big guys didn’t bother me as much.
They need to take Heavyweight back to being 176 and up.
There is no reason, other than self preservation, that a 176lb fighter could not fight as a heavyweight now. At the weigh in, you will not be disqualified for being too skinny. They won't send you away to eat donuts so you can come back and try again.
I think the weight classes are pretty good. A lot more divisions means there aren’t guys who get stuck between and don’t really fit in any weight class. Like Jerry Quarry, who would be a cruiserweight today but had to fight HW monsters.
I'm currently at 202 lbs and I don't feel good so I know that CW won't be for me. I'm dropping in weight, I could drop to lets say 185-180 but I feel anything lower would be a huge struggle.
I've never had to dehydrate myself for a weigh in but my thinking is that at 180-185 you would probably be in good company with LHWs dropping 5-10 pounds for a weigh-in.
What is your weight and body fat percentage? I doubt there are many cruisers fighting under 200lbs. I'm guessing most are walking around 210 plus.
I'm currently at 202 lbs and I don't feel good so I know that CW won't be for me. I'm dropping in weight, I could drop to lets say 185-180 but I feel anything lower would be a huge struggle.
its based on a percentage. That's why in the smaller classes there are 3lbs between, then 4, then 5 and so on.
They already created a division between LHW and HW. That IS CW. Heavyweight used to be 176 and up.
They need to take Heavyweight back to being 176 and up.
its based on a percentage. That's why in the smaller classes there are 3lbs between, then 4, then 5 and so on.
They already created a division between LHW and HW. That IS CW. Heavyweight used to be 176 and up.