Both are very talented but can we honestly say they are actually "proven"
Best names on Crawford's resume is
1.Khan(past his prime and has been knocked out numerous times)
2. Postol who was nothing special and was beaten by Josh Taylor
3. Indongo who Prograis stopped early than Crawford
4. Benavidez who was basically fighting on one damn leg
Best Names on Spence resume
1. Brook came down from 160 and took a beating from GGG
2. Mikey Garcia a natural 130 pounder who went up to 147 to fight the naturally bigger and stronger fighter. Mikey was a significant underdog.
All in all, Spence does have better names on his resume and I have no doubt that Brook and Mikey would've beat the Khan that Crawford has fought. But my god, if we had prime Floyd, Manny, Oscar, Tito, Vernon, Margarrito, and Mosley in this era, I have no doubt that these two would've been exposed already. Crawford gets hit too much and has yet to fight an A-level fighter. Spence is talented but he also has asterisk on his resume. right now, I do not know who comes out on top in this 147. Hopefully, if Thurman gets back to his old self he can make things interesting, but right now, the welterweight division is clearly the most overrated division in boxing.
Forgot gamboa who didnt just jump up two weights but was campaigning there and didnt show up overweight, flatfooted, slow etc. No the mikey spence fought would've lost every round vs the khan crawford fought all the same. Also horn is a solid win, diaz is decent too. Crawford has a much better resume than spence.
One day you guys are gunna figure out that you dont need a superstar on your resume to be on the cusp of being one, give it time to happen. Open your eyes its easy to see they are both elite fighters moving into their prime years, give them a chance to mature and let the superstars emerge.
Crying they are over-rated is BS, what is a rating anyway just someone else-es opinion , it dont mean sht as its not really clear where they are until near the end of their careers and what happened with them, hindsight is 20/20 vision.
To much whining and crying in here instead of enjoying seeing the talent grow and who emerges the best, this forum overall is so green towards top level boxing.
They are only overrated if you think they are all time greats. They are the two best welterweights today until proven otherwise but historically, I wouldn't rate either of them in the top 10. Maybe the winner creeps into the top 20 based on final resume.
This is the present though and in 2019, this is the best welterweight fight that can be made. In 2020, who knows.
I been saying this for the longest both crawford and spence have not fought any real competition. i wouldn't be surprised if they keep taking the danny garcia route....
Picture if Paul Williams was in this era
I been saying this for the longest both crawford and spence have not fought any real competition. i wouldn't be surprised if they keep taking the danny garcia route....
You've looked stupid for the longest too.
Lomachenko made him quit. His one hit was Donaire, which made him into this great thing. All that axe and shenanigans were shown to be a BS front.
Where am I saying Lomachenko isn't a good fighter? Can you find one post of mine?
you make 0 sense, why are you asking me about loma? If you think walters was a bum 1 hit wonder can you say the same about spence/crawford?
how can you say walters is a a one hit wonder when he went on to destroy darchinyan then donaire? If anything he was an very game for the lomachenko fight but loma is just on a different level.
Lomachenko made him quit. His one hit was Donaire, which made him into this great thing. All that axe and shenanigans were shown to be a BS front.
Where am I saying Lomachenko isn't a good fighter? Can you find one post of mine?
EVERYBODY is in this Current ERA of boxing is OVERRATED! ALL OF THEM!
Fans don't want fighters to earn their greatness they want to hand it to them so they can Fan Out over them and act like Groupies for them :nonono:
If your favorite fighter is truly as good as you guys pretend they are then DEMAND MORE from all of them instead of making excuses for their Cherry Picks. This happens on all sides PBC Fighters, Top Rank Fighters, DAZN Fighters you're all guilty of this Male Groupie behavior in this ERA of boxing
Both are very talented but can we honestly say they are actually "proven"
Best names on Crawford's resume is
1.Khan(past his prime and has been knocked out numerous times)
2. Postol who was nothing special and was beaten by Josh Taylor
3. Indongo who Prograis stopped early than Crawford
4. Benavidez who was basically fighting on one damn leg
Best Names on Spence resume
1. Brook came down from 160 and took a beating from GGG
2. Mikey Garcia a natural 130 pounder who went up to 147 to fight the naturally bigger and stronger fighter. Mikey was a significant underdog.
All in all, Spence does have better names on his resume and I have no doubt that Brook and Mikey would've beat the Khan that Crawford has fought. But my god, if we had prime Floyd, Manny, Oscar, Tito, Vernon, Margarrito, and Mosley in this era, I have no doubt that these two would've been exposed already. Crawford gets hit too much and has yet to fight an A-level fighter. Spence is talented but he also has asterisk on his resume. right now, I do not know who comes out on top in this 147. Hopefully, if Thurman gets back to his old self he can make things interesting, but right now, the welterweight division is clearly the most overrated division in boxing.
Isnt it TOO early, S-h-e-l-d-o-n to be ****ing about there records? Try in another 10 years when the results are in.
KIDS.............
I been saying this for the longest both crawford and spence have not fought any real competition. i wouldn't be surprised if they keep taking the danny garcia route....
Walters is a one hit wonder, who never was and never became, and was proven a coward and heartless.
how can you say walters is a a one hit wonder when he went on to destroy darchinyan then donaire? If anything he was an very game for the lomachenko fight but loma is just on a different level.
Yer that's all good bro..
We are all her for different opinions if we were all the same it would be boring.
It's just hard for me to think Esp. Of Gervonta as any p4p when he beats up on dudes at 126, plus the ducking of Loma.
Do you still think Lopez would beat Loma after yesterday?
Maybe you just read my Lomachenko posts.
I've always said on here P4P is the biggest BS ever. It's a person's opinion. I like your opinion better than any journalists, because you are here dealing with it. You are more legit than a website's P4P rankings. I usually discredit if I hear a hardcore even mention P4P. It's fictional.
However, there are best fighters in the world without weight considerations. Lomachenko is one of my top 10. I don't deal in the if stuff, P4P, just who I think the best fighters in the world right now are.
In that post, I was ranking best US boxers.
Bro, that's not an agenda, that's being a fan. An agenda is if I was rooting or rating someone on race, their promoters, or something like that.
I'm not gonna start anything with you because I respect you as a Lomachenko fan. Here I'm basically ranking American fighters. Is that OK? If you disagree with me, I'm cool.
Yer that's all good bro..
We are all her for different opinions if we were all the same it would be boring.
It's just hard for me to think Esp. Of Gervonta as any p4p when he beats up on dudes at 126, plus the ducking of Loma.
Do you still think Lopez would beat Loma after yesterday?
Well you clearly have an agenda for Gervonta.
Plus it seems you would give your right nut for Lopez to beat Loma which both are delusional hence your agenda.
I'm surprise you don't have Lopez at no. 1
Bro, that's not an agenda, that's being a fan. An agenda is if I was rooting or rating someone on race, their promoters, or something like that.
I'm not gonna start anything with you because I respect you as a Lomachenko fan. Here I'm basically ranking American fighters. Is that OK? If you disagree with me, I'm cool.