Can people explain why this young man is getting so much hype? What has he acheived? Who has he beaten? Does he have a good amateur background? Why do normally sane people seem to think he has a chance against Loma?
I've never seen him fight and can only judge from BoxRec. Looks like just another unproven up-and-comer to me? He has never faced even a World-level opponent? I feel like this kid is being set up for a biiiiig fall, maybe Jeff Lacy-style owning.
Josh Kelly is trash waiting to be disposed of. Crawford would obliterate that hypejob.
Your answer is for someone who thinks Lomachenko is this great fighter. I don't, not for a second. He hasn't fought anybody to determine that.
Irrelevant whether crawford would obliterate him or not. That doesnt concern anything that I was saying.
But lopez calling out Lomachenko is similar to Kelly calling out Crawford. Both are at a similar stage of their respective career. Lopez and Kelly both defeated a faded former champion (Magdaleno and Molina), other than that, they havent done anything and havent been tested at all.
So, if kelly calls out Crawford and he declines the fight, while fighting someone like kavaliauskas or jamal james instead, would that be considered a duck?
He beat a mediocre fighter named Diego effing Magdaleno.
Haha...and morons now think Lomahenko is ducking him.
Haters can't help making fools of themselves.
I HAVE NEVER once said that ortizs amateur record makes him credible....find me saying that once and ill paypal you $500
Fair enough must be mixing you in with guys that post similar veiws to you.
Amateur record is the equivalent to qualifications for normal people, most boxers only get a school grade am record Lomas been to university and gets the bigger jobs earlier on. On your note about Salido most people say it his low blows, clinching and cheating that won him the fight not Lomas experience.
guy is generating his own wave, why is that an issue?? he is trying to fight the best
bob arum is loving every second of it. he has 0 intention of making this fight, but in the meantime both fighter's names are out there.
At least you answered the question. Nothing. Thanks to Arum's corrupt ways. The rest of your post is garbage.
Here's what you are...a loma hater who desperately wants to see him lose. Problem is you don't see anybody at 135 beating him until a prospect came at the scene. You're pinning your hopes on someone just because his knocking out bums and inferior opponents in 8-round fights made for prospects. Just like that...you see him with power and handspeed and you immediately jump to his bandwagon. That's how poor your mind works.
Another useless reply from you.
Thanks ^^
If poor ole loma and his team dare to fight someone other then teo next, say for example a unification with commey, i can almost hear the wailing starting, wwwaaaa teo trumps unification, teo trumps unification ^^ lol
it will be rattle rattle clunk, that will be the toys flung out of the prams, teo will hot tail it to 140 in a massive sulk screaming 'im too big' 'im too big' and every loma fan will comeback outa hiding now the bogey man is gone whew ^^
Can people explain why this young man is getting so much hype? What has he acheived? Who has he beaten? Does he have a good amateur background? Why do normally sane people seem to think he has a chance against Loma?
I've never seen him fight and can only judge from BoxRec. Looks like just another unproven up-and-comer to me? He has never faced even a World-level opponent? I feel like this kid is being set up for a biiiiig fall, maybe Jeff Lacy-style owning.
He’s a highly thought of prospect that is knocking the hell out of people.
Those KO’s are the reason. It’s a formula for hype that has been successful since I can remember.
You want attention in this sport, fight anyone willing to take you on and knock them the f out.
...WHY NOT? Gifted young fighter with a very exciting style, big Power, a lot of Charisma and he is clearly FEARLESS!
Hey Boxing Fans, make up your F#CKING MIND! Do we want fighters to take it slow or do we want them "Step Up". When they want to step up we still complain so which one is it? :nonono:
Boxing Fans a lot of us don't know WTF we want which is why most Boxing Promoters (Particularly Arum) don't listen to WTF the fans think or say because a lot of us don't know SH#T! :dunno:
Great reply. I feel the same way. That's why I shit on Floyd for holding Gervonta back.
Green K.
He deserves it because he's so much better than the trash cans your man has been feasting on. Crolla wouldn't last a round with Lopez. What has you scared?
Do you base deserving on what some garbage corrupt org tells you? I use my own eyes to decide who is a good fighter. That's the difference between us.
crolla was a mandatory as in he earned his shot, google the word and you can find out all about it ^^
...WHY NOT? Gifted young fighter with a very exciting style, big Power, a lot of Charisma and he is clearly FEARLESS!
Hey Boxing Fans, make up your F#CKING MIND! Do we want fighters to take it slow or do we want them "Step Up". When they want to step up we still complain so which one is it? :nonono:
Boxing Fans a lot of us don't know WTF we want which is why most Boxing Promoters (Particularly Arum) don't listen to WTF the fans think or say because a lot of us don't know SH#T! :dunno:
i just watched a video of his father saying they want 2 more KO BEFORE a Loma fight. those words came out of his mouth, not Arums.
Yes, after Arum told them a week before that video.
Dont remember if anyone really said that he deserved an actual title shot for his second fight, but salido also wasnt a p4p kind of champ and lomachenko was probably his best offer money wise.
If salido had declined to fight lomachenko, I dont think that the general consensus would be that he is ducking lomachenko.
Teofimo looks good, but lomachenko doesnt have to fight him and wouldnt duck him at the moment before he hasnt established himself.
Josh kelly looks flashy. if he called out spence or crawford, would they duck him if they declined?
Same with hrgovic, dubiois => joshua or shakur stevenson => russell jr. Or whoever is considered at the top at featherweight.
Josh Kelly is trash waiting to be disposed of. Crawford would obliterate that hypejob.
Your answer is for someone who thinks Lomachenko is this great fighter. I don't, not for a second. He hasn't fought anybody to determine that.
Nope. He wanted the fight last week. It's Arum who toild them that. It's on video.
i just watched a video of his father saying they want 2 more KO BEFORE a Loma fight. those words came out of his mouth, not Arums.
So whats your point? Loma didnt deserve a shot and got his and teo doesnt deserve a shot but should get his? is that it? Or do u think teo does deserve his shot?
How about loma got his shot for vacant titles while teo wants a shot at p4p 1 or 2? Does that make a difference to u either?
He deserves it because he's so much better than the trash cans your man has been feasting on. Crolla wouldn't last a round with Lopez. What has you scared?
Do you base deserving on what some garbage corrupt org tells you? I use my own eyes to decide who is a good fighter. That's the difference between us.
What has Lomachenko done to deserve a title shot in his second fight? Why do people create diversions? Answer: Nothing.
Amateur doesn't count in the pros.
Dont remember if anyone really said that he deserved an actual title shot for his second fight, but salido also wasnt a p4p kind of champ and lomachenko was probably his best offer money wise.
If salido had declined to fight lomachenko, I dont think that the general consensus would be that he is ducking lomachenko.
Teofimo looks good, but lomachenko doesnt have to fight him and wouldnt duck him at the moment before he hasnt established himself.
Josh kelly looks flashy. if he called out spence or crawford, would they duck him if they declined?
Same with hrgovic, dubiois => joshua or shakur stevenson => russell jr. Or whoever is considered at the top at featherweight.
You and your ilk keep on repeating that. No he didn't deserve it but he put that out as a condition to sign a contract with top rank...to get a title shot in his first 3 pro fights or something so Arum had no choice but to make it happen. Arum himself said he wouldn't have made that fight if it's up to him.
Lopez doesn't have that kind of contract so that **** logic doesn't apply to him. He won't get what he doesn't deserve and as long as arum is in control so give it a rest with your stupid agenda.
At least you answered the question. Nothing. Thanks to Arum's corrupt ways. The rest of your post is garbage.
I've always maintained (since Loma came to lightweight) they are in two different weight classes and the Tank talk needs to chill. But you gotta understand, Dunn, when Tank goes on twitter and starts talking reckless on Loma the media will pick up on it and ask Loma questions. His first response was a fair one; where was all this talk when we were at 130, when we asked for the fight? Since then the twitter disses and Floyd's disrespect towards Loma seemed to have only made him more aggressive towards Tank.
You are missing my point. I understand every point you made. I am having an issue with people being mad at Tank’s silence while also being mad at Lopez loudness.
Obviously Tank is positioning himself for a fight later in with Loma when he and his team feel he has a better chance to win. Every promoter does that. Lopez is a TR fighter on the come up clamoring for a fight that if he won would accelerate his movement up the ladder.
Both guys can’t be wrong. Tank/Loma would be an easy win for Loma has they fought at 130, same way a Loma/Berchelt fight would’ve been tougher. So I get the anger towards tank.
But Lopez? I think Loma beats Lopez if they fight now but what happens if an upset occurs?