Anthony Joshua's debut fight in the United States could be in doubt after his promoter confirmed that Jarrell Miller failed a doping test. Eddie Hearn says in a Twitter post that Joshua's camp had been informed by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association that there was an adverse finding in a sample collected from Miller on March 20. Click Here To Read More]
His first words are 10mil?? Where'd you get that? Post it! ...Holyfield gave himself 16wks for Mike and did wonders! Imagine he'd given himself 11 days for the biggest platform and fight of his career?? Fickle excuses???
10 million, honestly I’m just echoing what I heard . If it is not true then my apologies. However Takam took the fight with 11 days notice for the money aspect and he was already in training. Ortiz is in the twilight years of his career and 6 weeks and minimum 5 million to fight is not a bad return and anyone that doesn’t share that sentiments for Ortiz needs their head tested. Which I know you do not fall in that category
Takam took the fight with 11 days notice. If he really wanted to be great he would take the challenge but instead his first words are 10 million. Even 15 million wouldn’t give him more time to train. 6 weeks is not ideal but if you believe in yourself you go for it.
Ortiz training for 6 weeks against Ortiz for 8 weeks what’s the difference really? I’m tired of these fickle excuses. Although I like the arthritis joke jibe
His first words are 10mil?? Where'd you get that? Post it! ...Holyfield gave himself 16wks for Mike and did wonders! Imagine he'd given himself 11 days for the biggest platform and fight of his career?? Fickle excuses???
Lmao! U lame as fuk.. I would wreck yo world fool. I play for keeps.. open hand slap? Lol.. im not even sure if im talking to a man.
"I'd only have to give you an open handed slap and you'd be probably done"
This is a way of telling you that a punch would be overkill. That a slap would suffice. How you took it any other way is mind boggling. You punch men, you slap b1tches. Get it now?
A full fledged camp isn’t a year. It’s simply the time taken to help short circuit a modern day super robot. Holyfield trained 4 months specifically for Mike. Why can’t Ortiz get 2 to 2 1/2 at least for the biggest fight of his career?
Oh I get it, you’re focused on him getting a payday, not the proper preparation? Why do you think S.R.Leonard planned the rematch against Duran the way he did? He knew he’d have an advantage by letting Duran balloon up in size. He didn’t give Duran the opportunity to get his mind & BODY back in the game after his big win. Ray talks about that all the time
I still say Ortiz wins it! But he doesn’t need Team-Greed runnin’ up from the back in some ambush call-out effort that Ortiz NEVER anticipated from all the constant ducking Joshua did... I forgot to send this text from before...lol...I hope you have a good day and not run into any devious robots!!
Lolx... ...i dnt care the duration of a full camp.
I say give Ortiz one full year to train, he will still get KTFO.
What's the difference.
You guys have been calling for this fight like its the last fight you will watch in HW.
Now the opportunity is here, you making up excuses to give him one full year to prepare and still get KOed brutally.
#takeitnowornever
A full fledged camp isn’t a year. It’s simply the time taken to help short circuit a modern day super robot. Holyfield trained 4 months specifically for Mike. Why can’t Ortiz get 2 to 2 1/2 at least for the biggest fight of his career?
Oh I get it, you’re focused on him getting a payday, not the proper preparation? Why do you think S.R.Leonard planned the rematch against Duran the way he did? He knew he’d have an advantage by letting Duran balloon up in size. He didn’t give Duran the opportunity to get his mind & BODY back in the game after his big win. Ray talks about that all the time
I still say Ortiz wins it! But he doesn’t need Team-Greed runnin’ up from the back in some ambush call-out effort that Ortiz NEVER anticipated from all the constant ducking Joshua did... I forgot to send this text from before...lol...I hope you have a good day and not run into any devious robots!!
I train 5 times a week actually. Don't do any sparring though.
His amateur record? The one where he didn't achieve anything? Bit like his pro record too.
Ortiz isn't avoided by anyone. They're just bullshlt stories you clowns come out with to boost Wilder because that's the only win worth something on his resume. It's in your interests to do so. Make him out to be a boogeyman. Sorry, but it's just not true.
You call AJ and Whyte hype jobs but want to praise the guy who hasn't done anything? Yeah, that makes sense. With all the hype Ortiz gets, there is no other word to describe him other than hype job because he's done nothing other than beat a decent fighter in Jennings years back. He personifies it.
You smear AJ and Hearn at every turn with madness, but you want to call me the hater? Ironic, man.
Look, if you and I came face to face, you wouldn't do anything. If you tried, i'd bang you out. I expect you fight as good as you can rationalise situations anyway. Which is f3cking terrible. I'd probably only have to give you an open handed slap and you'd be done.
Continue to be insane, then i'm going to continue to get on your case. Simple. If you don't like it, change the way you think and come into reality. It's up to you.
Lmao! U lame as fuk.. I would wreck yo world fool. I play for keeps.. open hand slap? Lol.. im not even sure if im talking to a man.
Spin what? The only thing that is said is that Aj keeps ducking that's it. No one is talking about the outcome.
AJ should just pay the crazy amounts of money cowards want in order to fight for the Heavyweight championship of the world?
If every Wilder opponent asked for 30 Mill to fight him, would you support such loony madness? No, you'd call it the other way like the crazed homer you clearly are. You'd say they're pricing themselves out.
Sad bastard.
Aj & hearn are the ones that talk but don't walk. If he doesn't fight King Kong then that will show you but of course you'll blame King Kong like you do D.Wilder.
Of course Ortiz will be to blame asking for 10 Mill. He only got paid 500K for Wilder, but you think he's worth over the 6.5 Hearn is offering even though he lost that fight and hasn't boosted his reputation since?
Your bias is so extreme, man. You're not even a troll either. You really believe the madness you say. Which is very scary by the way. I feel sorry for you.
Man, who are u? Do u even box? Every boxer knows Ortiz is no hypejob.. he's a very dangerous southpaw u fool.. fuk, look at the mans amature record.. he's always been a solid fighter.. which is why he is avoided.. an go watch the Ortiz vs scott fight.. an tell me that fool didnt run.. ur nothing in this world but a retarded hater, an supreme king of the morons. I'm going to pay a nerd to find u.. so us fighters can finally meet the infamous keyboard warrior.. and fuk u up!
I train 5 times a week actually. Don't do any sparring though.
His amateur record? The one where he didn't achieve anything? Bit like his pro record too.
Ortiz isn't avoided by anyone. They're just bullshlt stories you clowns come out with to boost Wilder because that's the only win worth something on his resume. It's in your interests to do so. Make him out to be a boogeyman. Sorry, but it's just not true.
You call AJ and Whyte hype jobs but want to praise the guy who hasn't done anything? Yeah, that makes sense. With all the hype Ortiz gets, there is no other word to describe him other than hype job because he's done nothing other than beat a decent fighter in Jennings years back. He personifies it.
You smear AJ and Hearn at every turn with madness, but you want to call me the hater? Ironic, man.
Look, if you and I came face to face, you wouldn't do anything. If you tried, i'd bang you out. I expect you fight as good as you can rationalise situations anyway. Which is f3cking terrible. I'd probably only have to give you an open handed slap and you'd be done.
Continue to be insane, then i'm going to continue to get on your case. Simple. If you don't like it, change the way you think and come into reality. It's up to you.
When was the last time AJ fought a voluntary non champ that wasn't linked to Hearn?
I already quoted that. Why don’t you respond to that?
Your point makes no sense bro. AJ has fought mandatories and champions since Molina.
best fight ortiz
he will get a boxing lesson from the old man...
till the 7 8 round..he will also get a chin test..
then ofcorse he will knock otter out..
from ortiz being tired.. hope he gets this pay day
Fights don't get made on social media. If Ortiz is really their first choice, then all he has to do is pick up the phone when it rings and say "yes". You are seeing Wilder fans everywhere, even when no one mentions him.
Yes it does..its a new age & you better catch up.
Hope he fights him and KO's him inside 3rd's. Just to see how Haymon's puppets will try to spin this.
Spin what? The only thing that is said is that Aj keeps ducking that's it. No one is talking about the outcome.
Yea just stay silent, that’s clever.. it proves you want the fight. You Wilder fans already making excuses.. I thought he’s the boogeyman?? The way Wilder fans talk about this guy you’d think even with 1 days notice he’ll KO AJ in 1 round.
Aj & hearn are the ones that talk but don't walk. If he doesn't fight King Kong then that will show you but of course you'll blame King Kong like you do D.Wilder.
Depends on the adverse finding amounts. Only Hearn knows this. Miller is on rotation for Matchroom fights just like any other boxer having had a PED violation yet still fighting. The dark side of industry knows that the pre advanced drug testing days were easier and many stars from previous years didn’t go through what’s going on today, so industry and promoters provide a level of empathy for today’s new gen. If Ortiz is real name for Joshua, which I doubt because I don’t think Haymon wants to give DAZN such business, but it this fight does happen, it just means a more meaningful fight at MSG which was all planned.
There’s just too much stuff behind the scenes.
I think it's exactly what it looks like. The simplest solution is generally the right one.
A friend of mine was telling me about drugs testing these days. Apparently the testing is actually getting very advanced now and capable of finding smaller and smaller traces of banned substances further and further back in time.
It seems like a bit of a stretch to say that it was all planned, especially (as you mention yourself) since Ortiz stepping up is very much not guaranteed.
AJ is in a difficult spot now; unless Ortiz fights him he's likely to receive 0 credit for his next opponent
Exactly, he knows this too.
I have never in my life said a bad word about Al. On the whole I like what he is doing but if he deprives Ortiz of this opportunity I will really start to question his role as an advisor
absolutely..... he shouldn't miss this life changing payday.
Even 4 million it’s a duck. I want him to take it then retire with his concussion. There is no shame losing to Joshua in the 3rd round. Well done and goodbye. Tell rigondeaux he owes me money for Quitting against Loma
I believe 2mil is enough money to bring his ass to the ring and get KFTO.
I strongly believe Ortiz will duck this opportunity just like a coward.
Eddie and Matchroom just doing the standard name dropping Ortiz it's just formalities nothing to get excited about mate
just watch as Ortiz will over priced himself with this unmerited golden opportunity.
He got 500k against wilder, once it's AJ, he will start requesting for 10mil.
That brother is not stepping in the ring with AJ.
He will get exposed before mid rounds.