Will Spence eventually make adjustments to make the Crawford fight happen?

TC and Khan are both WW. If anything Khan has grown into WW and has a very slim size adv over. Crawford. Neither guy has 5 inch health or 7 inch reach adv. Neither guy started their career at WW and literally said they will end at 160 or 168..while facing a guy who started at 126 and jumped 2 weight classes to 147 at 32 years. See any of my posts regarding that fight and I hammered it the second it was announced and I hammered SPENCER only. Hes the only one who deserves criticism for fighting a midget while ducking Crawford So, yes, I expect Crawford and Khan to be more fun and not a freak show XD XD XD Point to a single credible source anywhere saying that Amir Khan wins the fight.

Its leagues better than Mikey v Spencer and the undercard is good STOKED Its not though; even you don't really believe that.

I say early 2020 it is a must. Because they both may just fight one more time this year and for Spence, it will be Porter in September and then Crawford likely around that time or in October. Then early 2020 make it happen! Spence/Porter from all reports is happening next so the Crawford fight happens at the earliest after that. Spence vs Porter in September Crawford vs Besputin in October Then these two top P4P fighters battle it out in a "legacy defining fight" around March-April of 2020. crawford spence 2020 = a must!

spence crawford 2019 = a must! I say early 2020 it is a must. Because they both may just fight one more time this year and for Spence, it will be Porter in September and then Crawford likely around that time or in October. Then early 2020 make it happen! Spence/Porter from all reports is happening next so the Crawford fight happens at the earliest after that. Spence vs Porter in September Crawford vs Besputin in October Then these two top P4P fighters battle it out in a "legacy defining fight" around March-April of 2020.

spence crawford 2019 = a must!

Mikey refused to extend his deal with Top Rank so Arum simply decided not to book the last fight owed on the deal. Crawford can have whatever loyalty he wants, Arum's very unlikely to simply follow Crawford's call, especially if Arum is putting up all that guaranteed money. Just saying Possibly, but we shall see. The problem is Crawford can't even just go up to 154 and get the big fights since those fighters are with Haymon as well. I guess eventually Adames could be an option but I just see both Spence/Crawford pushing for the fight and it taking place one way or another.

Spence, Crawford and even Thurman. I would pay to see any of these fighters together.

Mikey tried getting out of his contract, that won't be the case here. Crawford will just give orders to Arum to make the fight even if he has to fight on FOX or SHO. Crawford has shown his loyalty to TR/Arum, so don't think the two comparisons are nearly the same. Mikey refused to extend his deal with Top Rank so Arum simply decided not to book the last fight owed on the deal. Crawford can have whatever loyalty he wants, Arum's very unlikely to simply follow Crawford's call, especially if Arum is putting up all that guaranteed money. Just saying

I dont know why you WOULDNT want the PFP #1 fighter in the world to do well Anyhow I WONT be buying PPV bc ILL BE AT THE FIGHT!! SO STOKED. Originally Canelo and Jacobs were considering Barclays/MSG (obviously went LV)...Ca$hnelo was obv option #1 Then Fury and Wilder were gonna do NY. Would've been a boring fight again, BUT HWs are such freaks and Fury is a character...that was option #2 Settling for option #3 TC (#1 PFP) versus anyone..and the fact that its Amir Khan makes it more exciting. Likely going to see a KD or KO Cant wait ! Because it's a **** fight that likely ends up +1000 at the sports book, and Bob Arum is trying to sell it for $75 a pop. Have fun, lol.

If Spence carries on collecting the belts then it’s bud that would need to make the extra efforts to get that fight over the line.

I agree with all of this. This whole discussion started because people like you suggest Terrence has "no options". How does he have "NO OPTIONS" if Errald can't get a fight with guys from HIS OWN PROMOTIONAL COMPANY..yet Errald still "has options". No. They're the same. A duck is a duck. Porter whining about IBF rankings or Danny talking trash on Twitter before GHOSTING are the same thing... And why would Arum contact Haymon? Haymon isn't actually a promoter. He's an advisor. Angel/Danny aren't their own bosses? They need Daddy Haymon to approve of everything they do? The fuck????????????? Again, Haymon isn't actually a promoter. So whose actually making the fights? I know they all hide behind Daddy Al, but surely they have some say in their fights? Kind of like how Crawford told Arum "No" for Collazo and requested Danny G/Khan. Bop Arum has begun offering $3-5m (with PPV upside) to fighters even if they are with other promo companies. That's how you make fights happen. That's how you make options happen. People that refuse those options, like your girls Deyonce, Errald, Danny Gift, Keith Next Time, and MMAPorter...they are the frauds of boxing and in a five year's time will be forgotten. Danny will be Berto level/gatekeeper, MMAPorter will remain just below champion level, and Keith will become something similar to a Paulie if he doesn't outright retire. What is your reading level? Because you've quoted me about 3-4 times and keep missing the SAME TWO LINES OF TEXT. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT AMIR KHAN WAS OFFERED INITIALLY. WE KNOW KHAN MAKES $5M + PPV. We don't know if that came after some "negotiation". We do know Danny G was offered $3m + PPV. It is possible BOTH GUYS WERE OFFERED THE SAME THING...KHAN "NEGOTIATED" HIGHER PAY. It's really NOT rocket science. It is also possible that Khan was simply offered more, but - again - WE DON'T KNOW. We only know for sure what Danny G was initially offered and what Khan is receiving. So, for the last time, and let's say Crawford can't get any PBC fighters, what are his options for say the next two years? Simple question, just answer that. And don't try to act stupid, you damn well know Haymon and his team make fights. Angel himself said in an interview he has NEVER made a fight for Danny and his team always makes them for them. And the team he is referring to right now is obviously Haymon. If we're going to act stupid here, we can just end the conversation here. Okay, you said we don't know what Khan was offered initially? Cool, that is true. We do however know what Garcia was offered. And we do have a guess in the neighborhood of what Khan is receiving for this fight. So after this fight, the offer TR needs to send has to be in the ballpark of Khan is receiving, if not more. That has to be the starting point. And essentially that was my point.

The talk about Danny being good was toward poppaCUCK who rates the WW highly and he's corny for Temp Banning me (prolly gonna perm ban now cause he's a child) AND reset my Rep to -65,000...like a Passive Aggressive WOMAN. Anyhow you don't see the point I'm making. Khan might've been offered $3m and NEGOTIATED to $5m. The Garcia bros never acknowledged the $3m offer. They didn't want the fight. Period. Never even responded in any way. Danny could've said $10m minimum and priced himself out, but saved some face doing so. Instead he flat out ignored it and went on to fight some nobody that's lost every meaningful fight in his career. And he'll earn LESS doing it. That's the definition of a DUCK. Top Rank has already made clear that they want good fights for Crawford They offered PBC fighter PPV bout with upside They offered and signed fight with MatchRoom fight on PPV with upside Meanwhile Errald Spencer won't even entertain the possibility of fighting Crawford because "accross the road". It's pathethic Errol Spence won't entertain the possibility of facing Crawford? He just said after the Garcia fight the fight will happen regardless of it being the most difficult to make since Mayweather/Pacquiao eventually ended up happening. If you want to use quotes like that, then you can say Crawford isn't rushing for the fight either since he just told Iole he is perfectly fine never fighting any of the top PBC WWs since he's making a great living for his family. So all that crap aside, if the fight is going to happen it will either happen if the fight becomes big enough for it to do nearly a million buys or one side has to concede their fighter. As for Garcia, the call was made to Angel. Let's see what happens this time with the offer starting at 5-6M and the call being made to Haymon. I mean Garcia may still not want it or the fight may not still happen, but it will hold a lot more credence than just calling Angel f'n Garcia and giving him an offer like he makes any fights for Danny. Anyways, you said Crawford has a lot of options. Tell me about his options. Say it isn't a PBC WW, what are his options for the next two years? And would that offer be better Danny Garcia? All I said is they should make a better and improved offer to Garcia after April 20 assuming both win of course. Maybe I'm just not seeing all these options that you keep mentioning for Crawford.

Mikey sat on the shelf for two years because he wasn't down with following what Arum wanted to do. Do you honestly think that Arum would have any qualms sitting Crawford down if Crawford tried to dictate how Arum does his business? Mikey tried getting out of his contract, that won't be the case here. Crawford will just give orders to Arum to make the fight even if he has to fight on FOX or SHO. Crawford has shown his loyalty to TR/Arum, so don't think the two comparisons are nearly the same.

Well that was last PPV and this is this PPV. Is that really your logic? Funny... :beerchug: :haha: I didn't try to move anything. There's no way of knowing how many PPV buys Terrence v Danny would do since its not happening. But I'd be surprised if Danny makes more than $3m against Granados Crawford's PPV is in two weekends; the initial projections aren't instantaneous, but the general reliable sources should have their first read on the numbers by Wednesday/Thursday. Have fun with that.

You gotta give Crawford a chance against Khan first to say who is the A-side, that's all. I even said we are heading towards a clear A-side, but can't say that before the actual PPV in a few weeks. Bud re-signing with TR was fine. He feels comfortable there and got a great offer. But he could do more than you actually think here, especially once it becomes clear that Spence is the A-side. He can tell Arum to send him there to make the fight and he's not taking a no for an answer. Mikey sat on the shelf for two years because he wasn't down with following what Arum wanted to do. Do you honestly think that Arum would have any qualms sitting Crawford down if Crawford tried to dictate how Arum does his business?

The whole Point of having OPTIONS in negotiations is to maximize income/profit by leveraging offers against each other. That's how basically every free agency works in NBA, MLB, NFL, etc. That's how it works in basically every area of business actually. And it's literally what happened with lion cub, Charlo, and Borat. Borat offered pennies/peanuts to Cub's fair wage...Adams chose the Cub. By choosing Granados Garcia is taking a PAYCUT. This IS NOT a power move and IS a DUCK. Garcia Bros talked trash and when offered a fight...DIFFERENT ENERGY. Now Garcia talking tough guy against...journeyman Granados. Wow, so impressive. In business terms, Garcia took LESS money to fight a MORE winnable fight and PASSED on MORE money to fight a LESS winnable fight. One could say, if he loses to Crawford his future pay suffers. Yes, no doubt. However, if Danny is talking trash and believes in himself...he would take the Crawford fight. Suppose he wins...now he has MORE LEVERAGE against Erralda/Thurman/Porter, etc. And his pay would be HIGHER in those bouts The dude is a CUCK and you saying he has "options" is misleading AF when the "options" are significantly worse opponents for less money. How much less is impossible to predict Except he didn't likely take a pay cut, a point made blatantly clear by your immediate move to take a bet over a $3m purse to a bet over a $5m purse, lol. Crawford-Khan isn't going to break 200k PPV buys.

Well Garcia was offered $3m + PPV upside. It will be tough to gauge how much he would've actually made. Since we can't do it that way why don't we do it another way. I'll bet you that Danny Garcia will earn less than what Khan makes versus Crawford. One fight is nationally telveised and the other PPV Interested? What PPV upside are you even talking about? Especially when Crawford's last PPV did something like 50k PPV buys and you basically need to cover Danny's $3m, Crawford's $3m, the cost of the undercard, and Arum's piece (likely 200k+ PPV buys) before any talks of upside, lol. Hilarious that you've now tried to move a $3m purse bet to a $5m purse bet the moment you saw that you stepped into some ****, lol. Waste of time

Errol Spence Jr sold out that Coney Island venue, put something like 13000+ into Barclays Center at premium event pricing ($50-$500), sold out the Cowboys training facility in Frisco, and is coming off of putting 45000 into AT&T Stadium. Spence Jr vs Porter, when it likely gets made, will draw really well in Brooklyn or JerryLand. Crawford can sell well in Omaha, maybe well at $50-$500 in Omaha, that's about it. Let's see what this Khan fight, but if it goes about as well as one would expect, we know the answer already. Terence Crawford gave up any "pressure" that he could exert when he extended his next five years to Arum because of seeing his guarantee doubled. No different than Mikey, Arum has shown that he has no qualms sitting a guy on the shelf for however long it takes for them to follow his play. You gotta give Crawford a chance against Khan first to say who is the A-side, that's all. I even said we are heading towards a clear A-side, but can't say that before the actual PPV in a few weeks. Bud re-signing with TR was fine. He feels comfortable there and got a great offer. But he could do more than you actually think here, especially once it becomes clear that Spence is the A-side. He can tell Arum to send him there to make the fight and he's not taking a no for an answer.

It's not beyond clear yet. Let's wait and see what Crawford/Khan does, but we are certainly heading into that direction. Will be interesting to see how many buys Spence/Porter does. We shall see, what option would Arum have if a Co-PPV just isn't going to be realistic? I sense that Crawford puts major pressure on Arum and the fight happens even if it isn't an ESPN, despite Crawford's recent comments. Errol Spence Jr sold out that Coney Island venue, put something like 13000+ into Barclays Center at premium event pricing ($50-$500), sold out the Cowboys training facility in Frisco, and is coming off of putting 45000 into AT&T Stadium. Spence Jr vs Porter, when it likely gets made, will draw really well in Brooklyn or JerryLand. Crawford can sell well in Omaha, maybe well at $50-$500 in Omaha, that's about it. Let's see what this Khan fight, but if it goes about as well as one would expect, we know the answer already. Terence Crawford gave up any "pressure" that he could exert when he extended his next five years to Arum because of seeing his guarantee doubled. No different than Mikey, Arum has shown that he has no qualms sitting a guy on the shelf for however long it takes for them to follow his play.

Well that's why they're called "negotiations". Original offer to Danny G was $3m + PPV We don't know if the original Khan offer was any different, but we do know the final offer was $5m + PPV Angel and Danny didn't even attempt to negotiate and instead fought Granados for less money and less bargaining power in future bouts. People who regard Danny highly, BIGPOPPACHUMP, are Philly biased or simply poor at analyzing fighters. Danny is a C+ fighter. He will get stopped by Spencer and TC beats him cleanly and clearly. So you can't make Danny "A" class or "elite" if he's lost 2-5 fights in his career (Herrera, Peterson, etc.) and would lose at least 2 more. He's not elite. Same can be said for both MMAPorter and Keith Next Time Thurman Oh and thanks for resetting my Rep to -65,000 BIGPOPPAWHITESUPREMACIST Okay, so this time around come with an offer that is in the ballpark of Khan's offer and negotiate from there. Once again, when did I say Garcia is a great fighter? He's certainly a much bigger name than other options Crawford has and is a good fighter. Of course Crawford will be the favourite over him, doesn't mean the fight isn't much better than Mean Machine or Collazo. And again, they reached to Angel who according to himself hasn't made one fight for Danny. So if they were serious, they would have reached out to Haymon or one his guys who make fights for him like DeCubas. But let's stop talking about the past. Let's talk about what TR should do after April 20.