Let's say Loma goes life and death with Crolla like he did against Pedraza, would your opinion still remain the same?
As Loma fans, which excuse should we go with: weight, past his prime, ring age (I'm with this), shoulder, lack of interest in the cans he's fighting (I'm with this one, too)?
Critics: He isn't all that, the guy is overhyped, Arum protected. Special ones overcome weight disadvantage fighting cans like Crolla and Linares.
Loma is hailed by some, not me, as the best fighter in the world. Where should we set the standards? How low?
You clearly don't know what the phrase " going life and death means". This is just another stupid concern trolling thread from a dumb**** Gervonta Davis fanboy.
Grow a thicker skin or GTFO of the thread.
LOL, no your not. You bash him every day, every time you talk about him and hold him to a far higher standard than any other fighter. You hate him because Tank's scared of him and you are holding the backlash against Loma. Everyone can see that.
Can't I critique a boxer I like? Loma is slick and that's my favorite style. I never put him down or call him names. I critique Gervonta as well. You and I have been at this for a few years now. You can't make me hate Loma.
You are correct. I'm actually a fan but, looking ahead, I hate to see Loma not achieving greatness in the pro. If you pay close attention to Loma's body language, you can tell he isn't that motivated by the competition.
This trend of good fighters fighting cans needs to stop. That's all I'm saying.
LOL, no your not. You bash him every day, every time you talk about him and hold him to a far higher standard than any other fighter. You hate him because Tank's scared of him and you are holding the backlash against Loma. Everyone can see that.
Not sure you know, but Floyd struggled with Maidana. Hell, Devon Alexander did better against Maidana than Floyd.
Using your logic, Floyd should have been knocked down to below Devon Alexander levels, right?
Obsession isn't healthy, go outside.
You clearly don't know what the phrase " going life and death means". This is just another stupid concern trolling thread from a dumb**** Gervonta Davis fanboy.
If he "struggles" then Crolla gets credit too. It's not fair to just discredit the chance of giving him credit. Crolla has a better resume than say, Gervonta Davis. Better wins, more depth and has stepped up when asked. Crolla isn't a good match though but Commey said he couldn't make the date, Garcia obviously is with PBC and moved up, so it's a good idea to keep the belt and take a quick mandatory and then onto Commey in July/August. Berchelt, the consensus #1 at 130 will be soon but he too was injured and had a fight scheduled. Maybe he'll be later in the year or Lopez.
The "struggle" with Pedraza is a huge stretch. He won 10 or 11 rounds, scored two knockdowns, made the dude miss around 90% of his shots and Loma didn't really start to open up most of his arsenal until late. That's an incredible standard to hold him too. Lineal champion Linares was objectively considered by most objective fans (see non agenda driven) as a streaking fighter on a good run and has good skills and size. Lomachenko dominated him for the most part and knocked him out despite factually having a major injury. To criticize him for opting to fight the lineal champ (who'd been ducked by Mikey Garcia) is insane too IMO.
When did he go life and death with pedraza? Did they meet in the amateurs aswell?
Watch the fight again, if you ever did, this time without your Eastern Euro bias. Try it, it's healthier that way.
Lol life and death with pedraza, dude seriously, wake up.
There are no standards in boxing to rank a fighter. Its all "eye test",popularity and lastly who you fought.
Eye test is not a standard
Popularity, is not a standard
Who you fought, may be, but you end up ranking a fighter with the above two "criterias"
Boxing is more than just the fighters,promoters and organizations also play a part in all this.
So on topic, loma is great on ghe eye test, a lot of us think alike. Is he the greatest or the best of this era, most probably not, we need to see him a couple of years more to indicate where he belongs
You are correct. I'm actually a fan but, looking ahead, I hate to see Loma not achieving greatness in the pro. If you pay close attention to Loma's body language, you can tell he isn't that motivated by the competition.
This trend of good fighters fighting cans needs to stop. That's all I'm saying.
Let's say Loma goes life and death with Crolla like he did against Pedraza, would your opinion still remain the same?
As Loma fans, which excuse should we go with: weight, past his prime, ring age (I'm with this), shoulder, lack of interest in the cans he's fighting (I'm with this one, too)?
Critics: He isn't all that, the guy is overhyped, Arum protected. Special ones overcome weight disadvantage fighting cans like Crolla and Linares.
Loma is hailed by some, not me, as the best fighter in the world. Where should we set the standards? How low?
Lol life and death with pedraza, dude seriously, wake up.
There are no standards in boxing to rank a fighter. Its all "eye test",popularity and lastly who you fought.
Eye test is not a standard
Popularity, is not a standard
Who you fought, may be, but you end up ranking a fighter with the above two "criterias"
Boxing is more than just the fighters,promoters and organizations also play a part in all this.
So on topic, loma is great on ghe eye test, a lot of us think alike. Is he the greatest or the best of this era, most probably not, we need to see him a couple of years more to indicate where he belongs
Ah, Usyk's got this, man. Very, very feel! Haha
I'll say I'm a die hard fan of Usyk. If he did lose to Takam, I'd still be a fan. I think he'll beat him for sure. A Povetkin fight could be dangerous too, but Usyk ain't scared. If he ends up beating Aj or Wilder, that's gonna be huge. And if he doesn't, the dude still owned cruiserweight and is hilarious. Can't wait for May 18!!
OK. I still don't dig the matchmaking of Takam. Wrong first fight. Someone big with ZERO skills like Price would've been much better.
While I dislike the opponent I can see why the fight is happening. You can't unify if you get stripped. In this day and age where the sanctioning bodies protect their champ from the #1 contender and refuse to mandate the mandatories boxing has been sliding into showcase fights against bums while boxers moving up in ranks to earn shots never get to fight for a title. If we don't support fights like this the boxing ranking system is pointless and we allow promoters to marinate fights until they can cash out a fighter.
“Softie” after your retaliatory red K after I called you out on your **** posting.
You are clueless man
You Red K me first. One of the first I did in a decade. I usually give 4 or 5 Green Ks everyday. Sometimes for no reason. You got angry and you Red K me and I reacted back to you same. I apologize.
Your ideas are for haters. I don't hate him. Hate is for softies like you.
I don't make any threads about fighters. I made 2 about Loma the last two days. I want him to find better challenges. I don't need your opinions. If you are good with the D fighters he's fighting, good for you.
If you didn't think Loma looked clueless in the Pedraza fight, then get glasses. You are actually clueless.
Bye.
“Softie” after your retaliatory red K after I called you out on your **** posting.
You are clueless man
The lower weights are definitely more action-packed. And yeah, the heavies just keep BSing around. Won't be surprised if we never see AJ-Wilder.
I don't care about AJ-Wilder or any BS like that. My boy Usyk will be fighting Takam I hear. I don't like that fight for Usyk.
I agree. Boxing politics suck. Always have but they may be worse now than in the past. We got a packed welter division and no one will fight each other though. Same thing at 175. Just showcase fights. Haha. Makes for very boring fights. But what can you do?
I just mainly follow the lower weights. These guys are a lot more exciting and skilled. That's why I wanna see fights like Loma-Lopez-Davis.
I don't care about the heavies.
Don't "Got it?" me. Haha
I want all these good fighters to fight each other to see who is great. I just see a bunch of pretenders.
Davis says his next fight will be big. I wish it's Mikey at 135 or 140, or someone big and tough at 135.