ANTHONY JOSHUA is a more realistic opponent for Tyson Fury than Deontay Wilder. That's the surprising verdict of Fury's trainer Ben Davison. The Gypsy King climbed off the canvas in dramatic fashion to earn a split-decision draw against WBC heavyweight champion Wilder back in December. Click Here To Read More]
Course he didn’t. Always an excuse for wilder isn’t there. I remember big baby being available and even calling into a radio show trying to get the fight. It didn’t happen.
Klitchko couldn’t finish because aj didn’t allow him. He tried to throw a couple of haymakers that were slipped and then eventually aj got his second wind and stopped him. His performance against aj was the best we had seen of him for a good few years.
This is exactly what supports the argument that Klitschko wasn't a massive risk and was at the end of the line. You think a veteran champion doesn't know how to close the show when he has his man hurt. Are haymakers characteristic of how Klitschko normally finishes fighters?
His performance against AJ validated that he was finished. He had AJ beaten and could not finish remember.
As far as GGG fighting Brook and Vanes, the rub was that he had better options that were calling to be the replacement opponent. Wilder had no such option.
Context matters.
Course he didn’t. Always an excuse for wilder isn’t there. I remember big baby being available and even calling into a radio show trying to get the fight. It didn’t happen.
Klitchko couldn’t finish because aj didn’t allow him. He tried to throw a couple of haymakers that were slipped and then eventually aj got his second wind and stopped him. His performance against aj was the best we had seen of him for a good few years.
Absolutely right.
And for anyone who watched the fight Klitschko was in amazing shape, moving really well until the moment he got caught.
Why do you think Klitschko couldn't finish Joshua when he had him hurt? Why did he retire in lieu of the rematch? It was still a quality win, just not the massive risk it was made out to be.
So what if it was a replacement fight. Does it mean it didn’t happen? Vanes and Brook were replacement fights did it stop people ****ting over ggg?
Heavyweights tend to do better with the age test than most other weights. As for his performance against fury it was abysmal but personally I thought it was just an off night and his performance against aj validated that thought. Put it this way at the time aj fought klitchko I had wk as the number 1 hw in the world as fury was technically retired at that point.
His performance against AJ validated that he was finished. He had AJ beaten and could not finish remember.
As far as GGG fighting Brook and Vanes, the rub was that he had better options that were calling to be the replacement opponent. Wilder had no such option.
Context matters.
No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
Absolutely right.
And for anyone who watched the fight Klitschko was in amazing shape, moving really well until the moment he got caught.
After Fury’s performance against Wilder, I’d actually favour him
over AJ. I really think he would outbox and frustrate Joshua with his movement and activity. However, with rivals Hearn and Warren as their promoters, we may not see them fight due to stupid politics.
Of course it was a risk, just not a big risk, particularly given Klitschko's age and previous performance 18 months prior. Also, context matters as Arreola was a replacement fight for Povetkin who got suspended for PEDs and Wawrzyk who's only loss was to Povetkin and also popped for PEDs. Makes me wonder if you just started following HW boxing worldwide upon Joshua's ascension in the ranks.
So what if it was a replacement fight. Does it mean it didn’t happen? Vanes and Brook were replacement fights did it stop people ****ting over ggg?
Heavyweights tend to do better with the age test than most other weights. As for his performance against fury it was abysmal but personally I thought it was just an off night and his performance against aj validated that thought. Put it this way at the time aj fought klitchko I had wk as the number 1 hw in the world as fury was technically retired at that point.
No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
Of course it was a risk, just not a big risk, particularly given Klitschko's age and previous performance 18 months prior. Also, context matters as Arreola was a replacement fight for Povetkin who got suspended for PEDs and Wawrzyk who's only loss was to Povetkin and also popped for PEDs. Makes me wonder if you just started following HW boxing worldwide upon Joshua's ascension in the ranks.
I think it's a very prudent move. AJ is a lot slower than Deontay. So Fury could probably go the full 12 without getting caught or going down.
However, if Tyson Fury believes he is going to beat Joshua in the U.K. with that kind of fighting style then he's insane. He better learn to let his hands go more and throw punches.
In addition, don't be so afraid and cowardly into getting in the trenches with him because judges don't score points for defense.
It wasn't Joshua's 15th pro fight so miss me with that lie. Secondly to fight an aging former champ coming off an 18 month layoff where as in his previous fight looked as if he couldn't pull the trigger anymore isn't some astonishing feat. The fight ended up being good due to AJ's inexperience which is what Wlad had on him. AJ was the fresher and younger active fighter. So in that aspect because of his inexperience it made the fight a bit of a risk, but please don't act as if he was climbing some high mountain with the deck stacked against him. It wasn't like that at all and the people on this site saw it for what it was, they didn't make it up after the fact which is what you initially said. I gave him props for the win though, that's what you're supposed to do in those type of fights
Ok 19th pro fight, does that make you feel better? Really doesn’t make a difference considering it takes some fighters near 40 fights to finally step up.
A lot of posters said klitchko would win. I remember that clearly
He looked like he couldn’t pull the trigger against what we now know to be an excellent fighter. Bear in mind what he did to wilder coming off a REAL 18 month lay off. At home getting fat and doing **** all with his life. There’s no shame in losing handily to that fighter at 100%. I do truly believe a rematch would’ve been different though there was a lot of talk about wlad having personal issues throughout that camp which was reflected in his performance.
No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
It wasn't Joshua's 15th pro fight so miss me with that lie. Secondly to fight an aging former champ coming off an 18 month layoff where as in his previous fight looked as if he couldn't pull the trigger anymore isn't some astonishing feat. The fight ended up being good due to AJ's inexperience which is what Wlad had on him. AJ was the fresher and younger active fighter. So in that aspect because of his inexperience it made the fight a bit of a risk, but please don't act as if he was climbing some high mountain with the deck stacked against him. It wasn't like that at all and the people on this site saw it for what it was, they didn't make it up after the fact which is what you initially said. I gave him props for the win though, that's what you're supposed to do in those type of fights
Fury lost a lot of money betting against AJ on Martin, klitschko and Parker.
People were saying Wladimir was old before the fight and he was coming off an 18 month layoff. They didn't just bring that up after the fight. C'mon bro, you're better than this
No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
Spot on. People go on like Wlad was completely washed up. He proved in the fight that he wasn't. He was still in the top 3 available HWs at the time Joshua fought him. Arguably number 1. Fury was semi retired, Wilder was busy fighting bums like Gerald Washington.
People were saying Wladimir was old before the fight and he was coming off an 18 month layoff. They didn't just bring that up after the fight. C'mon bro, you're better than this
No a lot of people said it was too soon. Plus he was in good shape it may have been an 18 month lay off but he was in training camp for much of that time. Klitchko in your 15th fight is a risk no Matter how you look at it. I mean aj could’ve lost that fight. Bear in mind around that time other champions were fighting the likes of Gerald Washington and Chris arreola, you honestly going to tell me klitchko wasn’t a risk for a very inexperienced champion who hadn’t gone beyond 7 rounds at that point
Aj stepped up and took a risk against klitchko but it’s easy to look back on it now with rose tinted glasses and say he was old but it was a massive risk and a fight he could’ve easily lost.
Fury isn’t fighting aj any time soon so Davidson should just shut up really.
People were saying Wladimir was old before the fight and he was coming off an 18 month layoff. They didn't just bring that up after the fight. C'mon bro, you're better than this
Everyone should know Bob Arum is not going to allow that. He'd rather lose money than let one of his big fighters lose to a rival promoters fighter.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Arum being Manny's promoter during the Floyd/Manny shitfest.
But let's be real about this .. the biggest obstacle to Fury vs AJ won't be Arum, it will be Hearn/Sky and Warren/BT locking horns over the UK screening rights.
This would be by far the biggest fight, and one of the biggest sporting events, ever held in the UK. The whole damned country would want to watch it!
What does this kid know about the politics and difficulty of rival networks working together, there in the game 2 min and suddenly there ****ing experts ...
He knows very little, which he acknowledges in every interview. It's become a running joke in his interviews.
And he didn't say it would happen, or could happen, or was likely to happen. He was asked which of the two big fights he thought was more likely to happen in 2019. He guessed Joshua.