Wilder smiles: "50/50 or no AJ fight, belts not important"

He might as well set his goal at 70/30 for him. You'd likely commend him for that as "a man should have goals." 70/30 is obviously impossible. 50/50 might happen if things keep going Wilder's way. Wilder bent over backwards so far last year. So yes, good for him for finally standing up for himself.

It wasn't a bogus offer. Hearn, Joshua, Finkel, Espinoza, etc all confirmed it was legit. He also accepted 15 flat to go to the UK. He did everything possible to make the fight last year. Hearn just refused to do the fight last year. Feeling jerked around and lied to, Wilder said **** it, I won't take the fight until it's 50/50. Now he's on a mission to improve his worth until he can get 50/50. Good for him. A man should have goals. He might as well set his goal at 70/30 for him. You'd likely commend him for that as "a man should have goals." He's either out in left field with his own valuation of himself, or he's pricing himself out as a way to duck. Those are the only two possibilities as to what is the truth. We disagree on that. 99% of people make me right. I'll be over here being realistic- say hi to the folks in La La Land for me.

wbc, wba, ibf stays breaking it down...using common sense and logic I still have to laugh at people that think hearn "goes where the money as is"...as wbc stated...a few more bucks for one night isn't worth more in the long term to hearn...hes doing everything with DAZN in mind...because, as noted, if they drop him hes kinda screwed

As far as networks go, I imagine both sides will want the novelty value of the first fight. The problem is that you can't charge $10 for fight 1 and then try to charge $80 for fight 2. So the first fight would have to be PPV and the second fight would have to be DAZN if each was going to get a fight. Also, Hearn is insisting on the second fight being in the UK, and you can't do a UK fight on PPV here.

DAZN says his worth is 120 million. Seems Al isn't guaranteeing more than he's worth. If you need 250 to break even and you get 325, that's not barely breaking even. That's 30% past breaking even. Joshua vs Parker was two undefeated heavyweight champions and did around the same amount of PPV revenue as Wilder vs Fury. Not bad considering nobody knows who Wilder is and Joshua is the most famous man who ever lived and may very well be the reincarnation of Christ himself. They're offering him that because of Joshua. Don't forget that. They're offering Joshua big money without Wilder. Wilder is only wanted because Joshua wants his belt.

Hearn can't keep his story straight on whether Joshua is free to fight on Showtime PPV. Hearn can't keep his story straight about anything. So it's a waste of time trying to figure what Joshua can or can't do. All we know is what he will do. Which is whatever Hearn wants. And Hearn wants to keep DAZN happy because if DAZN cancels their deal with Matchroom when the two years are up, Matchroom is ****ed. $40 million for Wilder seems fair imho too and maybe after the Breazeale fight, if they make Wilder a fair offer, he'll take it. Your opinion of a fair offer may differ from mine, but in my opinion, the fair deal would be. First fight on SHO PPV (US fight), 60/40 split. Second fight on DAZN (UK fight), 50/50 if Wilder won the first fight, 70/30 in AJ's favor if he won the first fight. That would probably get the deal done. But DAZN is trying to be greedy and get both fights. For me, the first fight ought to be 60/40 UK or 70/30 US, based on each guy's commercial value and sporting achievements. But hey, it's an opinion and that's what negotiations are for. As far as networks go, I imagine both sides will want the novelty value of the first fight. We've seen what DAZN are willing to pay and if Showtime are matching them they'll need that investment to pay off. I fear this goes the way of Tyson/Lewis, happening too late to really matter.

We all know Hearn would go where the money is Hearn is smart. He's not going to value a little more money for one night over a lot more money long term with DAZN. His deal with DAZN was only guaranteed for two years. It's not worth infuriating them by putting the fight on Showtime even if it would put a little more money in Hearn's pocket on that particular night. he isn’t afraid to have Joshua on showtime or ESPN if it benefits his and Joshua’s pocket. We have just seen that with Whyte when he fought Chisora. DAZN didn't want that fight. They had the right to buy it and passed.

Apparently DAZN have first and last refusal on Joshua, meaning of they able to match or better any other offers then he fights there. If the fight is worth $100 million, $40 million for Wilder seems more than fair imho. We all know Hearn would go where the money is, he isn’t afraid to have Joshua on showtime or ESPN if it benefits his and Joshua’s pocket. We have just seen that with Whyte when he fought Chisora. That fight was picked up by showtime when DAZN didn’t offer what Hearn or Whyte would want. So with Hearn it’s all about the money.

Apparently DAZN have first and last refusal on Joshua, meaning of they able to match or better any other offers then he fights there. If the fight is worth $100 million, $40 million for Wilder seems more than fair imho. Hearn can't keep his story straight on whether Joshua is free to fight on Showtime PPV. Hearn can't keep his story straight about anything. So it's a waste of time trying to figure what Joshua can or can't do. All we know is what he will do. Which is whatever Hearn wants. And Hearn wants to keep DAZN happy because if DAZN cancels their deal with Matchroom when the two years are up, Matchroom is ****ed. $40 million for Wilder seems fair imho too and maybe after the Breazeale fight, if they make Wilder a fair offer, he'll take it. Your opinion of a fair offer may differ from mine, but in my opinion, the fair deal would be. First fight on SHO PPV (US fight), 60/40 split. Second fight on DAZN (UK fight), 50/50 if Wilder won the first fight, 70/30 in AJ's favor if he won the first fight. That would probably get the deal done. But DAZN is trying to be greedy and get both fights.

But Joshua is a network free agent too. So it's not unreasonable to ask Joshua to come to Wilder's platform since PPV can generate a lot more money than DAZN. Apparently DAZN have first and last refusal on Joshua, meaning of they able to match or better any other offers then he fights there. If the fight is worth $100 million, $40 million for Wilder seems more than fair imho.

yeah of course uncle al loves Wilder so much he guaranteed him much more than his worth. DAZN says his worth is 120 million. Seems Al isn't guaranteeing more than he's worth. I didn't say it was close to breaking even, I said barely breaking even, there's a difference. If you need 250 to break even and you get 325, that's not barely breaking even. That's 30% past breaking even. Very small numbers to make 5million profit on a PPV show including two undefeated heavyweight champs. Joshua vs Parker was two undefeated heavyweight champions and did around the same amount of PPV revenue as Wilder vs Fury. Not bad considering nobody knows who Wilder is and Joshua is the most famous man who ever lived and may very well be the reincarnation of Christ himself.

Filed purses are bogus. Wilder was guaranteed much more than 4 million. Likely guaranteed at least ten million. You really have no idea how purses & PPVs work. On a traditional PPV arrangement, the premium network GUARANTEES THE PURSES. If the fight fails to do 250k, Showtime owes Wilder and Fury more money than actually came in from the PPV. If a fight needs 250 to break even, but does over 325, that's not "close" to breaking even. That's at least 30% past break even. A very healthy number. yeah of course uncle al loves Wilder so much he guaranteed him much more than his worth. I didn't say it was close to breaking even, I said barely breaking even, there's a difference. Very small numbers to make 5million profit on a PPV show including two undefeated heavyweight champs. In fact, it's embarrassing.

Which isn't much more than what Wilder vs. Fury generated money wise. And may actually be less since we never found out the UK numbers for Wilder vs. Fury. Point being, the money Joshua is generating is no longer leaps and bounds beyond what Wilder is generating. The gap is closing, even if you're in denial. Of course it is. Imagine the numbers if AJ fought Fury. :lol1: You can't compare that to a Povetkin fight. Look at what Wilder does vs Breazele, vs what AJ did vs Povetkin. That's a fair comparison and AJ simply smokes it by all accounts.

Delusional idiot living in fantasy land. Hope Breazeale KO's this con man or that Whyte gets the WBC mandatory after this so Wilder has nowhere to run. I bet he'd vacate the belt before facing Whyte at this point, he's becoming a joke and it's sad to see

Wilder received 2mil at the absolute max from the PPV, on top of a guaranteed 4mil. Filed purses are bogus. Wilder was guaranteed much more than 4 million. Likely guaranteed at least ten million. You really have no idea how purses & PPVs work. On a traditional PPV arrangement, the premium network GUARANTEES THE PURSES. If the fight fails to do 250k, Showtime owes Wilder and Fury more money than actually came in from the PPV. If a fight needs 250 to break even, but does over 325, that's not "close" to breaking even. That's at least 30% past break even. A very healthy number.

Joshua did 1.2 million buys vs Parker. Which isn't much more than what Wilder vs. Fury generated money wise. And may actually be less since we never found out the UK numbers for Wilder vs. Fury. Point being, the money Joshua is generating is no longer leaps and bounds beyond what Wilder is generating. The gap is closing, even if you're in denial.

Which at UK prices would be a difference of 225,000 buys. If a Joshua fight needed 775,000 buys to broke even, but did 1,000,000 buys, would you say the fight barely broke even? Yes I would. Because it has zero to do with number of buys and everything to do with revenue. Wilder received 2mil at the absolute max from the PPV, on top of a guaranteed 4mil. That's pathetic compared to AJ.

I literally took their most recent fights. If Wilder's biggest fights are happening now and Joshua's biggest fights already happened years ago, that just further proves my point that Wilder is on the rise and Joshua has already peaked. As for who generated more, you really have no idea. You consistently say things without having any idea if they're actually true. You don't know what Wilder got paid against Fury. You don't know what Joshua got paid against Povetkin. Like most UK trolls, you'll likely want to point towards filed purses, since Joshua never has to show his filed purse. Except on June 1, he'll finally have to. And it won't be anywhere near 30 million. Your fantasy balloon is about to pop. Joshua did 1.2 million buys vs Parker. That's a year ago :lol1: We know your pathetic agenda. Yeah you'll get the DAZN guaranteed purse. Don't forget to add the UK PPV numbers on top, which will at least be 15mil dollars. That you can compare with Wilder's purse of 4million + 30% of the profit (1.7mil). So yeah you'll see AJ's guaranteed purse at least be 4x bigger than Wilder's entire purse, and that's not even including PPV from the UK.

It's true though. The difference between zero and what they did was 75k buys Which at UK prices would be a difference of 225,000 buys. If a Joshua fight needed 775,000 buys to broke even, but did 1,000,000 buys, would you say the fight barely broke even?

You literally took AJs last fight against Wilder's biggest ever fight because it suited your agenda, and even so AJ still generated much more I literally took their most recent fights. If Wilder's biggest fights are happening now and Joshua's biggest fights already happened years ago, that just further proves my point that Wilder is on the rise and Joshua has already peaked. As for who generated more, you really have no idea. You consistently say things without having any idea if they're actually true. You don't know what Wilder got paid against Fury. You don't know what Joshua got paid against Povetkin. Like most UK trolls, you'll likely want to point towards filed purses, since Joshua never has to show his filed purse. Except on June 1, he'll finally have to. And it won't be anywhere near 30 million. Your fantasy balloon is about to pop.