Pacquiao, enough is enough!?

The only issue with Manny not fighting the top young guys is that he has a belt. If those guys want to become undisputed, Manny will need to vacate that belt and just continue fighters on the level below.

Then why do people want to see him face Shawn MF'n Porter who is nothing more than a refined version of The Hornet? Why were and ARE people ok with Manny facing Chino Maidana, who arguably is worse than Horn? That's the hypocrisy I'm talking about. I'm not interested of Pac facing Shawn Porter either. I've never thought of Chino as an intriguing opponent. But in all fairness, both are relatively close to Pac in size. Plus we've never actually seen them fight Pac yet so it still has some flavor in it (in spite of similar style). We've seen the Horn fight already and it was ugly, so nobody likes to see a rematch as ugly as that. Kinda like many people saying the rematch with Floyd is pointless cause it will be the same crap with just a money grab. There are other plenty of fun fights for Jeff Horn too. There's Kell Brook. Jessie Vargas would be ok. He might want to test waters at 154 too and try to get some title shot for his 2nd division. Heck, I'm was even interested of him fighting Rios too should Rios haven't lost his last fight. Both aren't sharp punchers but both are strong. I'd be intrigued by how either try to outmaneuver each other. :boxing:

I 100% agree with your comments about Pacquiao. Asking him to fight all the top fighters is unrealistic. I think he should give it up. Garcia. I don't know what his motivation was for fighting Spence. Don't care really. It"s irrelevant. What surprised me was how some people tried to put Spence on the level of a club fighter. I like both guys as individuals the fight happened it's over and there was no controversy. Thank God. Agreed. Pac-Man should do what Floyd is. Boxing match against McGregor for $100m Boxing match again Tenshin for $50m. Pac-Man deserves very easy pay days or even handouts.

Why? Everyone keeps saying Manny deserves to go out with a big payday, they also say Manny beat Horn the first time, so surely he should be able to beat him the second time for an EASY payday...right? I keep hearing guys talk about Manny facing Floyd (same outcome as the first), Thurman (Manny getting outboxed), Spence (Manny getting stopped), Porter (Manny getting bullied and headbutted), etc. Why take those risks when The Hornet is apparently easy work and an easy payday? We can give that 'W' to Horn already. That was an ugly fight (if you consider that a boxing match) let's face it. Pac will struggle against that kind of fighter because (1) he's small and (2) Pac has no wrestling background/knowledge, unlike most American boxers. Plus the referee didn't help either for all those dirty tactics implemented, which Pac isn't good in handling either based on the past, ie Hussein, Sanchez. Nobody wants to see them fight again, unless your Horn fan or a Pac hater.

He's trying his luck. He was damn near blinded by Broner of all people. Every fight you're rolling the dice. He's fortunate to have his health, with all the punishment he has taken. Unfortunately for him I don't think he'll have much of a choice in his opponents. He's definitely gonna have expectations with this PBC deal.

I love Manny. My favorite fighter of all time but please, fight some bum in the Philippines. No Spence!

I don't know. On fight night, Manny is usually in the low 150's. He was 150 and 151 for the Bradley fights, and 152 for the Mayweather fight. mikey weigh in at 152 on the 2nd day weigh in bro. on fight night im sure he'll have put on even more pounds.

If he defeats Spence he will one up MayIVeather F U R T H E R on the Legacy game. Pacquiao's fighting these top guys to fish out that red-handed juicer.

big fight as in a floyd rematch, then yes! but big fights against these top young guys, im not gonna push for it anymore. why is manny the only one that gets treated unfairly?? he has earned the right to fight who he wants at this point! Manny can do whatever he wants that's for sure. He's proven enough already and he's a legend. But there's just this intrigue sometimes. The what ifs. And it just seems like he still has something left. It would make you want to see how he fares up with these new generation fighters. But you're right he doesn't need to fight any of them anymore.

Pac's best bet is to target Thurman next rather than later and make that his last fight. Forget Spence and Crawford, they may be a bridge too far. honestly, i feel thurman (right now) is a bad match up for manny. one time is not who he used to be. thurman moves around way too much now. and i can see pac getting desperate and tired chasing him around and then getting caught with a shot as he's lunging in. thurman can move and can still throw heavy blows. if manny pick thurman, i rather just have him fight spence instead. style wise, i feel pac will match up better with spence, a guy who comes to you and doesnt move all that much.

He is greedy for money. Let him go out like a lot of the greats did getting the cowboy piss beat out of him by a young lion. if that's the case then he would be fighting bums and get $5-10 mil each fight.

So I see you're conceding Spence might be a little too much for a 40 year old Manny. If he plans to keep on fighting he should stay away from Spence and/or Crawford. Crawford would embarrass him and Spence would send him into retirement. i still stand firm that pac can beat spence. but i've always said it wont be a walk in the park. and i mean this for both guys!! i just feel at this point in manny's career, we shouldnt be trying to force him to fight these top young guys. but if he chooses too then i'll support him all the way.

Seeing him in one more big fight is not bad also. He loses once more, then he should definitely retire big fight as in a floyd rematch, then yes! but big fights against these top young guys, im not gonna push for it anymore. why is manny the only one that gets treated unfairly?? he has earned the right to fight who he wants at this point!

He is not smaller than Garcia, this mini Manny is BS he is a WW and Roach has said many times he has grown into a WW, look at Manny at 147 and Garcia at 145, dont confuse fat with muscle when talking size. Manny gets all the kudos from fanboys for saying he wants to fight these guys, he and Roach both said they want Spence prior to the fight , now Spence has said ok lets do it, then it becomes Manny shouldnt fight these young lions , well dont challenge them to make out youre a hero , you cant have it both ways , put up or shut up! technically, he IS smaller. BUT he's been fighting at ww for a long time so he's used to this weight, where as for mikey, that was his first fight at 147. Robert says mikey walks around at 152 or so. i dont think manny walks around at 150+..

I'm not sure I want to see Manny fight either Spence or Crawford but he's thrown his hat in the ring still so if he's going to keep fighting he should be fighting the top guys. Manny has a warrior spirit. I think it's going to take going out on his shield to make him retire. Good or bad it is what he's going to do. I fully respect whoever he decides to fight next. Were all very privaliged being able to watch this ATG fight. Great post. One of your best! Green K sent.

Seeing him in one more big fight is not bad also. He loses once more, then he should definitely retire

Which is why I keep saying...the fight for Manny to send him off properly AND get a decent payday is to rematch The Hornet in Brisbane. Would much rather have him retire than that

Its crazy to think that Manny started at 106 pounds and worked his way up, the guy is smaller than Mikey Garcia and is now 40 years old and in his prime would have given all the current top welterweights hell. I cant believe he still competes at that very top level, but come on, a killer like Spence or Crawford is not fair anymore. Do people want to see exciting fights or bloodbaths? I think Mikey vs Thurman who is still a champion would be a great and close matchup, I hope this fight happens and if Manny loses that one decisively I hope he hangs em up. He is not smaller than Garcia, this mini Manny is BS he is a WW and Roach has said many times he has grown into a WW, look at Manny at 147 and Garcia at 145, dont confuse fat with muscle when talking size. Manny gets all the kudos from fanboys for saying he wants to fight these guys, he and Roach both said they want Spence prior to the fight , now Spence has said ok lets do it, then it becomes Manny shouldnt fight these young lions , well dont challenge them to make out youre a hero , you cant have it both ways , put up or shut up!

Pac's best bet is to target Thurman next rather than later and make that his last fight. Forget Spence and Crawford, they may be a bridge too far.

yall know what... do i think manny can beat the top 147 guys right now? yes i do! but i've come to realize that he's also 40!!! i caught myself trying to tell this 40 years old man to go and fight these top young guys and im like damm that's fvvvcked up! so im gonna fall back on trying to tell pac to go after these young guys. the man has done enough for boxing and he can choose to do w-t-f he wants. i shouldnt be trying to force tough fights on him at this age. but if he decides to fight spence then i will root for him, if he chooses someone else then i will still support that. i also wanna apologize to mikey and his family for saying some nasty shiiet about them this week lol.. mikey should deserve respect for moving up 2 weight classes. as a boxing fan, im just gonna enjoy these fights, whoever it is, we shouldnt be shiieting on it. Before I even read the rest of the thread, I wanna say thank you for coming to your senses. We don't wanna kill this guy. He should start with the easiest, most money fights. Props to you. Danny Garcia is my highest pick for the Pacman's level now. He might take some damage in that one too. Other than him, who are the guys he should fight? Mikey is a step higher. Find someone smaller with name and no power. Loma? Thurman I'm not sold of.