Speaking of "Pocket-watching" wilder...

The only thing your post proves is Wilder has a history of turning down career high paydays. :bottle: So does Joshua. He would have made career high paydays against Wilder and Fury and turned both offers down. Something being a career high payday doesn't automatically make it the wise business decision.

Pacquiao was selling 1 mil+ PPVs fighting anyone. Wilder is on regular Showtime because he isn't popular enough to be on PPV. That's the difference, moron. :rofl: Wilder just headlined a successful PPV. ESPN and Showtime both made huge offers to put his next fight on PPV. For whatever reason, he preferred to have the fight on premium cable. You were the one insisting Wilder should accept 12.5. Then you insisted he should accept 15. Now you insist he should accept 40. Time has proven you wrong over and over. The men managing and advising Wilder are the men who were managing and advising the fighters who received almost all of the biggest purses in history. In a short time, they've guided him from a 12.5 offer to a 40 offer. If he ultimately gets 50 or 60, or even 100, what will you say then? Where would he be if he'd accepted 12.5 like you said he should?

Pacquiao turned down 40 flat because he wanted a fair split and ended up making over 100 when the fight finally happened. How is this any different? pacquaio was already a PPV star in his own right, who was truly bringing more to the table. he was already being considered as a true p4p all time great. wilder is not a ppv fighter. he needs the right fighter to make a ppv viable. he doesn't hold any significant value outside of joshua and/or fury.

This is what posters argue about now??

They never wanted the fight. It should be incredibly obvious by now. https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-agrees-two-fight-joshua-deal-per-reports--129018 Publicity stunt?

apparently, according to wilder, the conversation with John Skipper went sideways partly because they didn't get the answer to what AJ was making. lol Wilder and his team are the ultimate pocket watchers. and people on here attack fans for "worrying about another man's pockets" wilder is a ducker. Pacquiao turned down 40 flat because he wanted a fair split and ended up making over 100 when the fight finally happened. How is this any different?

They never wanted the fight. It should be incredibly obvious by now.

Turning down an amount money as huge as that because you think somebody else might be getting even more is the ultimate in stupidity! Wilder is scared of getting KO'd by AJ, that's the only possible explanation for his bizarre behaviour.

Hardly the same thing.