https://youtu.be/vUwTfikAHRQ
Also since when have him and Parker been like brothers? After all the crap he said when he fought AJ or since Parker said he was up for the fight?
That's what's most hilarious!!!
This fat out of shape coke head whooped deontay Wilder.
It's much more hilarious than people make it out to be.
When did Tyson Fury Whoop Wilder ?
That's what's most hilarious!!!
This fat out of shape coke head whooped deontay Wilder.
It's much more hilarious than people make it out to be.So when did that motherfucker ever quit? He hasn't quit. He is still on that shit. That's how he was able to get up so quickly from that 12th round knockdown because of all the coke he had snorted just prior to the walk in to the fight was still in his nose :lol1:
The reason why Wilder has toned Eddie Hearn out because he has constantly lied to him over and over again and he doesn't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
After agreeing to all of Joshua terms and conditions after Joshua turned down his $50mil offer; In order to make the fight happened for us fans Eddie reneged on the counter offer by having Joshua fighting Povetkin instead. Therefore, Eddie is going to have work long and hard to regain Wilder's trust again.
You say that Joshua had mandatories; Which was the reason why he couldn't challenge Ortiz. So then what about Dillain Whyte? He was available after turning Luis Ortiz down twice for title eliminators.
Lastly, C'mon man. When you are the challenging for heavyweight championship of the world; You don't leave nothing behind or for a chance. You have to impress the judges that you left everything of yourself in that ring.
I am sorry but Fury didn't do that. He decided to play it safe and cautious and it wound up costing him the title.
In addition, you can't compare Mayweather with Fury because Mayweather was always the champion. In this case, Fury was not.
He could have done a Hell of lot more and should have done more like hurt Wilder, beat him up and throw more punches. However, he was in there only to survive and go the full distance with the most feared and dangerous puncher in the heavyweight division.
That was his fault and he only has himself to blame for that. It's difficult to win rounds when you don't throw punches.
Also, you said Fury landed only 13 punches more than the champion. That's pathetic. That proves right there that the fight was not a robbery or a shut out.
Freddie Roach agreed with me that he should have gone for the knockout but was overruled by both Fury and his trainer Ben Davidson.
In the future, you must learn to raise the bar higher for your favorite fighters. Fury was so close to winning. All he had to do was a little bit more and he would have won.
Also, the judges were neither corrupt or on the take. They awarded the title to the man who wanted it the most and that man was Deontay Wilder.
Whyte made more money fighting Parker and Chisora than he ever could fighting Ortiz and the Ortiz fight was last on terms that Chisora didn't take the fight. Most of you guys said Parker would school Whyte and Chisora had been robbed in the first fight and already beat him so both were by no means the easy way out. It's funny how convenient the **** you guys forget. Is.
After they agreed all the terms and conditions for 50 mil? When? All Hearn said was he believes they can get the money that was it and never saw proof in the end. Remember Wilders team wouldn't meet to discuss terms or send a contract.
You're a waste of time just making stuff up completely to fit your narrative and shunning the rules of boxing making up a challengers handicap and providing constant double standards claiming everything is unfair as per fecking usual and you wonder why people don't like Wilder or most of his fans.
Wilder is just a good boy that does what he's told whether it's Haymon or Shelley whispering in his ear I don't know. I do know is he won't even speak to Hearn still even with the new offers on the table for undisputed and Fury going away for now. Unless he's scared of AJ or doesn't care about one name/face
thing there's it can only be down to people telling him what to do.
Your level of delusion is rediculous AJ ain't fought Ortiz because he's been unifying or fighting mandos since Vlad and it doesn't make business sense to fight someone who can't even speak English and has an L for your American debut.
Fury didn't need to take anymore chances he landed more and threw less (more effective aggression) and showed Wilder aggression to be be ineffective for all but 2 rounds with his defense which is another attribute scored in a boxing match. If you choose to ignore that boxing is scored round by round basis taking account both defense and offense which the judges may be untrue for reasons such as being paid or just having a bad day at the office then that's your fault. Man Floyd made the latter part of his career and claimed the title T.B.E using the same technique Fury did, what's your reasoning for this? Even ring magazine saw it as a reason to rate Fury over Wilder, sorry to burst your bubble.The reason why Wilder has toned Eddie Hearn out because he has constantly lied to him over and over again and he doesn't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.
After agreeing to all of Joshua terms and conditions after Joshua turned down his $50mil offer; In order to make the fight happened for us fans Eddie reneged on the counter offer by having Joshua fighting Povetkin instead. Therefore, Eddie is going to have work long and hard to regain Wilder's trust again.
You say that Joshua had mandatories; Which was the reason why he couldn't challenge Ortiz. So then what about Dillain Whyte? He was available after turning Luis Ortiz down twice for title eliminators.
Lastly, C'mon man. When you are the challenging for heavyweight championship of the world; You don't leave nothing behind or for a chance. You have to impress the judges that you left everything of yourself in that ring.
I am sorry but Fury didn't do that. He decided to play it safe and cautious and it wound up costing him the title.
In addition, you can't compare Mayweather with Fury because Mayweather was always the champion. In this case, Fury was not.
He could have done a Hell of lot more and should have done more like hurt Wilder, beat him up and throw more punches. However, he was in there only to survive and go the full distance with the most feared and dangerous puncher in the heavyweight division.
That was his fault and he only has himself to blame for that. It's difficult to win rounds when you don't throw punches.
Also, you said Fury landed only 13 punches more than the champion. That's pathetic. That proves right there that the fight was not a robbery or a shut out.
Freddie Roach agreed with me that he should have gone for the knockout but was overruled by both Fury and his trainer Ben Davidson.
In the future, you must learn to raise the bar higher for your favorite fighters. Fury was so close to winning. All he had to do was a little bit more and he would have won.
Also, the judges were neither corrupt or on the take. They awarded the title to the man who wanted it the most and that man was Deontay Wilder.
hes a drug addict who's body is weakened by years of crack and alcolhol abuse
still boxed wilders ears off though didn't he
That's what's most hilarious!!!
This fat out of shape coke head whooped deontay Wilder.
It's much more hilarious than people make it out to be.
Motherfucker, Ortiz has High blood pressure then why don't the fuck your boys fight him then? Shit! Neither Anthony Joshua or Dillian Whyte want no smoke from High Blood pressured Luis Ortiz.
Also, if Fury made Wilder lool like a fool for 10 out of 12 rounds then why the Hell he didn't win the fight? Shit! Why, it's because he didn't try hard enough?
Fury needed to take more chances and risks in that fight but refused because he was afraid he was going to get dropped, stopped and finished. There were too many rounds in the fight where Fury did absolutely nothing.
The fight was there to be taken had he only thrown more punches and been more aggressive but he fought like a bitch; Trying not to lose and surviving by going the full 12 rounds.
In addition, no one speaks for Deontay Wilder pal; Not even Shelly Finkel. He is his own man. He is a loner by nature; Who is staunchly independent, rebellious, stubborn, idealistic and visionary.
He won't settle for anything less than what he wants or feels is right and doesn't give a good damn, what his haters/detractors may care or think about him or the moves that he makes.
Lastly, as a matter of fact, Wilder did try to negotiate an undisputed heavyweight championship bout with wladimir Klitschko but was turned down because Wladimir wasn't interested. He told Wilder he had to step up his level of opposition first, which was a clear sign of a duck by Dr. Steelhammer.
Wilder is just a good boy that does what he's told whether it's Haymon or Shelley whispering in his ear I don't know. I do know is he won't even speak to Hearn still even with the new offers on the table for undisputed and Fury going away for now. Unless he's scared of AJ or doesn't care about one name/face
thing there's it can only be down to people telling him what to do.
Your level of delusion is rediculous AJ ain't fought Ortiz because he's been unifying or fighting mandos since Vlad and it doesn't make business sense to fight someone who can't even speak English and has an L for your American debut.
Fury didn't need to take anymore chances he landed more and threw less (more effective aggression) and showed Wilder aggression to be be ineffective for all but 2 rounds with his defense which is another attribute scored in a boxing match. If you choose to ignore that boxing is scored round by round basis taking account both defense and offense which the judges may be untrue for reasons such as being paid or just having a bad day at the office then that's your fault. Man Floyd made the latter part of his career and claimed the title T.B.E using the same technique Fury did, what's your reasoning for this? Even ring magazine saw it as a reason to rate Fury over Wilder, sorry to burst your bubble.
Definitely not when has Wilder mopped the floor with anyone of note?
AJ's the one that mops the floor with Wilders comp it's been proven with Molina who gave Wilder trouble and took AJ 6 less rounds to get him out. AJ even took Gavern out 1 round quicker than Wilder.
Only a Wilder fan would rate Ortiz with blood pressure issues over Klitschko (17 month lay off with training camp) and disregard Fury's time out and performances against Seferi and Pianeta to say he is 100%. On top of that he still made look a fool for 10 rounds at least.
If Wilder mopped the floor with Klitschko he wouldn't have been called a baby HW and not ready post 30 fights and he would have fought them by now instead of doing stuff like talking about freezing Whyte out for two years like a real coward.Motherfucker, Ortiz has High blood pressure then why don't the fuck your boys fight him then? Shit! Neither Anthony Joshua or Dillian Whyte want no smoke from High Blood pressured Luis Ortiz.
Also, if Fury made Wilder lool like a fool for 10 out of 12 rounds then why the Hell he didn't win the fight? Shit! Why, it's because he didn't try hard enough?
Fury needed to take more chances and risks in that fight but refused because he was afraid he was going to get dropped, stopped and finished. There were too many rounds in the fight where Fury did absolutely nothing.
The fight was there to be taken had he only thrown more punches and been more aggressive but he fought like a bitch; Trying not to lose and surviving by going the full 12 rounds.
In addition, no one speaks for Deontay Wilder pal; Not even Shelly Finkel. He is his own man. He is a loner by nature; Who is staunchly independent, rebellious, stubborn, idealistic and visionary.
He won't settle for anything less than what he wants or feels is right and doesn't give a good damn, what his haters/detractors may care or think about him or the moves that he makes.
Lastly, as a matter of fact, Wilder did try to negotiate an undisputed heavyweight championship bout with wladimir Klitschko but was turned down because Wladimir wasn't interested. He told Wilder he had to step up his level of opposition first, which was a clear sign of a duck by Dr. Steelhammer.
Wilder mops the Goddamn floor of any of the fighter's on Anthony Joshua's resume. As far as Klitschko is concerned, he was just coming off a 17 month layoff after losing to Tyson Fury. By the time, he fought Joshua he was already diminished and on the decline but yet AJ still struggled with him.
If Ortiz was a cherrypick then why did everyone avoided him up until Wilder challenged him; Including Anthony Joshua. He was and still remains the bogeyman of the Heavyweight division. He was a dangerous, undefeated and high risk opponent that no one to this day still wants to fight.
Moreover, how in God's name can you call Fury a cherrypick when he was the undefeated, lineal world heavyweight champion of the world? Fury was perceived as a dangerous, high risk and undefeated opponent who only lost his titles outside of the ring. That's why Wilder challenged him.
After all, it was Fury who called out Wilder and not the other way around. Tyson was nowhere on Deontay's radar. It was the Gypsy King who requested a challenge of Wilder's WBC heavyweight title and out the kindness of his heart he granted it to him by throwing him a lifeline for a voluntary charitable defense of his title that Tyson Fury did not earn or deserve because he popped dirty for doping, juicing and PED use.
So you haters need to stop it with all this foolish nonsense talk about Wilder cherrypicks. The only one who cherrypicks is Anthony Joshua when he fought four consecutive times back in 2017, 2018 and 2019 with Takam, Parker, Povetkin and now Miller in order to avoid an undisputed heavyweight championship bout with Deontay Wilder and that's a fact.
Definitely not when has Wilder mopped the floor with anyone of note?
AJ's the one that mops the floor with Wilders comp it's been proven with Molina who gave Wilder trouble and took AJ 6 less rounds to get him out. AJ even took Gavern out 1 round quicker than Wilder.
Only a Wilder fan would rate Ortiz with blood pressure issues over Klitschko (17 month lay off with training camp) and disregard Fury's time out and performances against Seferi and Pianeta to say he is 100%. On top of that he still made look a fool for 10 rounds at least.
If Wilder mopped the floor with Klitschko he wouldn't have been called a baby HW and not ready post 30 fights and he would have fought them by now instead of doing stuff like talking about freezing Whyte out for two years like a real coward.
hes a drug addict who's body is weakened by years of crack and alcolhol abuse
still boxed wilders ears off though didn't he
You don't get decked twice badly, and out box somebody at the same time. Also? Boxed wilder's ears off? Tyson Fury did not beat him up or deter him at any stage in the fight. When Floyd Mayweather used to systematically out box some of his opponents, you could vividly see the point in the fight where his opponents give up psychologically. Tyson Fury did not make Wladimir Kiltschko give up, and he did not deter Deontay Wilder at any point in the fight! at 212 pounds, he kept on coming all night.
So Tyson Fury has just been decked twice, THERE is unfinished business and he does not want to finish the business. 'I am a fighting man, is what Tyson Fury states he is' Gosh it would of been great of David Haye vs Tyson Fury fight happened. 'Haye had enough left to spark him out'.
Tyson Fury should fight Dillian Whyte.
Note: Tyson Fury is not on drugs, obviously seems abit bothered with Wilder situation. For whatever reason he does not like immediate rematches at elite level, I can only state what I have seen.
Lol AJ fought Klitschko after 18 fights a harder hitter than anyone Wilder has faced after 41 fights, take a break from the internet son Wilder cherry picked Old Ortiz (equivalent of Povetkin only if you believe the myth) and a 60% Fury, real people's champ taking 39 easy fights though.
Good job you guys have short memories.Wilder mops the Goddamn floor of any of the fighter's on Anthony Joshua's resume. As far as Klitschko is concerned, he was just coming off a 17 month layoff after losing to Tyson Fury. By the time, he fought Joshua he was already diminished and on the decline but yet AJ still struggled with him.
If Ortiz was a cherrypick then why did everyone avoided him up until Wilder challenged him; Including Anthony Joshua. He was and still remains the bogeyman of the Heavyweight division. He was a dangerous, undefeated and high risk opponent that no one to this day still wants to fight.
Moreover, how in God's name can you call Fury a cherrypick when he was the undefeated, lineal world heavyweight champion of the world? Fury was perceived as a dangerous, high risk and undefeated opponent who only lost his titles outside of the ring. That's why Wilder challenged him.
After all, it was Fury who called out Wilder and not the other way around. Tyson was nowhere on Deontay's radar. It was the Gypsy King who requested a challenge of Wilder's WBC heavyweight title and out the kindness of his heart he granted it to him by throwing him a lifeline for a voluntary charitable defense of his title that Tyson Fury did not earn or deserve because he popped dirty for doping, juicing and PED use.
So you haters need to stop it with all this foolish nonsense talk about Wilder cherrypicks. The only one who cherrypicks is Anthony Joshua when he fought four consecutive times back in 2017, 2018 and 2019 with Takam, Parker, Povetkin and now Miller in order to avoid an undisputed heavyweight championship bout with Deontay Wilder and that's a fact.
AJ doesn't fight for the people. He fights for money. He doesn't put his career, undefeated record, health, future and legacy on the line for us boxing fans by giving us the fights that we want to see. Only one Heavyweight boxing champion does that and his name is Deontay Wilder. He is the real People's Champion because he fights for the people.
Lol AJ fought Klitschko after 18 fights a harder hitter than anyone Wilder has faced after 41 fights, take a break from the internet son Wilder cherry picked Old Ortiz (equivalent of Povetkin only if you believe the myth) and a 60% Fury, real people's champ taking 39 easy fights though.
Good job you guys have short memories.
Miller and Kownacki said the opposite, actually. They said it would be an amazing match, and made reference to it being for all the belts.
I'm pretty sure Miller turned down the fight and said it's one of the reasons he is not with Showtime anymore
Why?
he's been pretty disciplined throughout his whole career and turned up to fight for the most part.
He hasn't even got a big history of cancelling fights. One time was when his trainer/uncle Hughie died on fight week, which is understandable and the other is the Wlad rematch which we all know about.
Aside from that, he's never actually lacked professionalism on the boxing front. He trains hard and turns up to fight. He was always active too, apart from the latest hiatus and when Haye pulled out on him twice which wasn't his fault.
I think his hiatus and drugs binge of clouded peoples view of Fury a bit and forget that he was generally active and disciplined before that and also has been since his return.
I don’t really disagree with that. Tyson is a good egg but
I think it’s more that he’s king of the hill really.
And I do think that when it comes down to it he has enough dough. Where he lives and such is basically a self contained forte out here in greater Manc. He really is a bit of King of his Castle.
It’s the whole can’t run in silk pyjamas thing.
I don’t think he’s on drugs here but the way he’s talking here makes me worry. Even if it is tongue in cheek.
Ah no.
I genuinely don’t think Fury will have the discipline to go a full camp and fight anyone other than Wilder or AJ. This Top Rank deal could get messy.
Why?
he's been pretty disciplined throughout his whole career and turned up to fight for the most part.
He hasn't even got a big history of cancelling fights. One time was when his trainer/uncle Hughie died on fight week, which is understandable and the other is the Wlad rematch which we all know about.
Aside from that, he's never actually lacked professionalism on the boxing front. He trains hard and turns up to fight. He was always active too, apart from the latest hiatus and when Haye pulled out on him twice which wasn't his fault.
I think his hiatus and drugs binge of clouded peoples view of Fury a bit and forget that he was generally active and disciplined before that and also has been since his return.
Ah no.
I genuinely don’t think Fury will have the discipline to go a full camp and fight anyone other than Wilder or AJ. This Top Rank deal could get messy.
Surely to be the "peoples champ" you have to have the "people" which would make AJ the people's champ since he has the most people. I hate to get too logical on you.AJ doesn't fight for the people. He fights for money. He doesn't put his career, undefeated record, health, future and legacy on the line for us boxing fans by giving us the fights that we want to see. Only one Heavyweight boxing champion does that and his name is Deontay Wilder. He is the real People's Champion because he fights for the people.
Peoples champion has nothing to do with the most followers lmao carry on. In America he is the people’s champion couldn’t careless about the UK.AJ doesn't fight for the people. He doesn't put his career, undefeated record, health, future and legacy on the line for us boxing fans by giving us the fights that we want to see. Only one Heavyweight boxing champion does that and his name is Deontay Wilder. He is the real People's Champion because he fights for the people.
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