New found respect for Dillian Whyte

You should've just stopped at your first point which is another lie. If Joshua comes to America in his next fight and loses, you don't think he'll wish he fought Wilder instead for way more money? Use your head. All four of the top 4 heavyweights are betting on themselves right now by delaying their cash out fights. All of them will feel stupid if they lose before the big showdown.

That's what I was trying to tell you in your thread. Those are the figures I estimated to what I think they would be, which would indicate Whytes decision not to take that fight is insane really. I could understand the principle of turning down the fight if the rematch stipulated that as the champ he’d earn less but 50/50 is fair considering he’s a voluntary so has no obligation to have a shot and he’s earning a better split than he would as a mandatory. Strange decision. Hopefully it doesn’t haunt him.

The rematch split was changed to 50/50 in the last, improved offer that Whyte got, and his purse would have been more than he got for the Chisora fight and more than he would get as a mando. For sure, if he beat AJ in a mandated fight he could dictate his own terms for a rematch, but that's a hell of a big if. I think he made a mistake turning that last offer down. Fighters should focus on their own money, instead of being obsessed with what the opponent is getting, and turning down career high offers because the other guy is getting much more than them. I wasn’t aware of that. He should’ve took that deal imo. Yeah like I said it’s a ballsy move to turn down that money over a rematch that probably won’t happen. I agree fighters should be more concerned on what they’re making in comparison to previous fights rather than what their opponent makes

This will totally back fire if he loses. The top four heavyweights are all in that situation. If Joshua comes to the US and loses to Big Baby for 30 million, he'll feel like an idiot for not fighting Wilder for 50 million. If Fury loses his tune up on ESPN, he'll feel like an idiot for not taking 20 million to fight Wilder in a rematch. If Wilder loses to Breazeale, he'll feel like an idiot for not taking 22 million to fight Joshua. If Dillian Whyte loses his next fight, he'll feel like an idiot for not taking 6.5 million to fight Joshua.

I did say it wasn’t the smartest thing to do but I respect his stance on it. Mosley did the same thing with De la Hoya and went and lost to Forrest. Sometimes the gamble works, sometimes it doesn’t. At the moment now he doesn’t have a fight for April 20. Breazeale might finally get his shot at the WBC and Whyte would be left without a good PPV opponent unless Povetkin or Ortiz can make that date.

Funny how much respect Whyte is getting for not fighting Joshua, yet he got very little for chasing a fight with Wilder :thinking: The only people that disrespect him for chasing Wilder are idiots. They are not real fans of the sport.

Exactly my point. He was that confident in himself he turned down 5 million over a rematch that probably wouldn’t happen lol The money wasn’t the issue in the end according to him. They finally agree on a 50/50 split if he beat Joshua, but he wanted drug testing and longer camp for the fight. I don’t know if that’s an excuse or not because according to VADA they administer testing for Joshua as well as his opponents.

In my opinion it was an example of ego getting to the brain. No different to Wilder who applied similar logic to offers.

I was just thinking whyte turned down the 5 mil offer from aj on the basis that he was unhappy with the fact AJ would still make more in the rematch. Whyte backed himself to the point he was so certain he would beat AJ he was willing to turn down the offer because he was unhappy with the terms of the rematch, a rematch that in all likelihood will never happen. In favour of waiting it out to become mandatory for a lesser split but the opportunity to dictate his own terms in a potential rematch. I don’t necessarily think it was the smartest move but I do respect it. The rematch split was changed to 50/50 in the last, improved offer that Whyte got, and his purse would have been more than he got for the Chisora fight and more than he would get as a mando. For sure, if he beat AJ in a mandated fight he could dictate his own terms for a rematch, but that's a hell of a big if. I think he made a mistake turning that last offer down. Fighters should focus on their own money, instead of being obsessed with what the opponent is getting, and turning down career high offers because the other guy is getting much more than them.

Well he figured why risk another loss for money he can make down the line anyway while he is currently highly ranked in the WBC and can get a title shot at Wilder first. The AJ rematch would always be there anyways given that he bounces back with a couple of wins even in a defeat to Wilder. He probably fancies his chances against Wilder to be greater then his chances against Joshua. He can also take other safer fights in the mean time and make good money given that he is a big name in the UK. He could also hit the U.S market and gain fans here as well if he takes fights against decent opposition. He's probably looking toward longevity and the long haul of his career rather then one final big payday against Joshua right now. Smart move imo.

Funny how much respect Whyte is getting for not fighting Joshua, yet he got very little for chasing a fight with Wilder :thinking:

Whyte makes a total of around 20 million on that deal in two fights if he wins if you figure the fights generate 30 million which it would. Without that fight he makes about 3 million or so ? Maybe a little more if he gets a good opponent at the 02? So no, wasn't a good move at all. Whyte is in no position to squabble over money ,don't the fighters get they are being offered the opportunity in the first place ,there is no percentage discussions if there is no Joshua to fight. The figures added up here is most likely more so Whyte would get near 25 million ,worst case scenario he still makes around 10 million so again no not smart at all. I did say it wasn’t the smartest thing to do but I respect his stance on it.

I wonder if it had something to do with that testosterone stuff in the contract Everyone just skipping over this lol. Explain Sir

That's called pricing himself out. It was a money issue. I wouldn’t call it pricing yourself out I think it’s more of a respect thing. I can understand why he’d be aggrieved by that because that would be his biggest opportunity ever to make money. Even if he was to beat Joshua a second time I doubt he would be as marketable and popular as Joshua Is today.

A 3rd fight that he wouldn't get anyway because Joshua would KTFO him again. Exactly my point. He was that confident in himself he turned down 5 million over a rematch that probably wouldn’t happen lol

I initially thought this but it wasn’t the fee he was upset about. It was the fact that AJ would still get the Lions share in any rematch. That's called pricing himself out. It was a money issue.

Whyte priced himself out of the fight like an idiot. I initially thought this but it wasn’t the fee he was upset about. It was the fact that AJ would still get the Lions share in any rematch.

A 3rd fight that he wouldn't get anyway because Joshua would KTFO him again.

Whyte priced himself out of the fight like an idiot.

I was just thinking whyte turned down the 5 mil offer from aj on the basis that he was unhappy with the fact AJ would still make more in the rematch. Whyte backed himself to the point he was so certain he would beat AJ he was willing to turn down the offer because he was unhappy with the terms of the rematch, a rematch that in all likelihood will never happen. In favour of waiting it out to become mandatory for a lesser split but the opportunity to dictate his own terms in a potential rematch. I don’t necessarily think it was the smartest move but I do respect it. I wonder if it had something to do with that testosterone stuff in the contract