Wilder should take the ESPN deal

im sure you are from the UK so you know next to nothing about american football...but their contracts are not fully guaranteed an espn or pft headline will tell you "player x signs for 80-100 million".u open the article and read it will tell you that only 30-45 mil of it is guaranteed and the player can be cut after 3 years and is not owed the rest of the money this deal is similar...arum has the option to do furys next 5 fights or whatever....but he doesnt have to....there is no initial investment by arum aside from maybe an advance on his first fight or a signing bonus....everything after this is tentative if fury fights pulev and somehow loses? guess what? thats all fury might see and arum can "good luck with life" if he fights pulev and beats him? arum might try to make the wilder fight....theres another 20 mil for fury on top of what he was paid for the pulev fight....but if fury gets ktfo or loses? guess what? arum can say "good luck with life" he needs to get the AJ and wilder fights to get the money arum flashed...arum flashed a big number for the fanboys to jump for....guys like you and the rest of the cheerleaders fall for it so easily "omg look at fury hes making so much more than wilder now".......in reality if they both fight one fight and then each other they will make probably around the exact same....close enough to it....and whoever wiins will be in line for the big bucks of an AJ payday thats just reality....but all the fanboys are all "0h 100 mil"..."oh 80 mil he makes way more than wilder hahahaha see i told you yay fury he really won i know it"...like a bunch of schmucks celebrating something that hasnt happened yet there is no return on invesment because bob hasnt actually invested anything yet nobody brags about "billions in haymon checks"...we simply tell you that if wilders purse is 2.1 mil...hes likely seeing a total around 3.6....its not a mystery...chavez has posted a check...thurman has talked about it....others have too....haymons guys get sidechecks...they arent huge....but they do add to their purse...they aint just making their listed purse....stop trying to act like we tell you guys are getting loaded off it lol...no one ever did that....but when you clowns go around talking about how wilder makes 1-2 million were telling you its more than that but of course you cant be rooted in reality...nothing you UK twats say is rooted in it...save for maybe 2-3 of you who are realistic Can I be counted as one of the realistic ones please? Realistically- Wilder is a piece of overrated hyped poo and will get ended by any of Joshua, Whyte, or Dubois. And possibly Joyce. Realistically he already has a 0 on his record.

Yeah everything is being done to spite wilder. this is always the case according to you guys, no one makes as much as they say but when it’s a pbc fighter you’re quick to tell us they’re making 2 billion in haymon secret cheques. im sure you are from the UK so you know next to nothing about american football...but their contracts are not fully guaranteed an espn or pft headline will tell you "player x signs for 80-100 million".u open the article and read it will tell you that only 30-45 mil of it is guaranteed and the player can be cut after 3 years and is not owed the rest of the money this deal is similar...arum has the option to do furys next 5 fights or whatever....but he doesnt have to....there is no initial investment by arum aside from maybe an advance on his first fight or a signing bonus....everything after this is tentative if fury fights pulev and somehow loses? guess what? thats all fury might see and arum can "good luck with life" if he fights pulev and beats him? arum might try to make the wilder fight....theres another 20 mil for fury on top of what he was paid for the pulev fight....but if fury gets ktfo or loses? guess what? arum can say "good luck with life" he needs to get the AJ and wilder fights to get the money arum flashed...arum flashed a big number for the fanboys to jump for....guys like you and the rest of the cheerleaders fall for it so easily "omg look at fury hes making so much more than wilder now".......in reality if they both fight one fight and then each other they will make probably around the exact same....close enough to it....and whoever wiins will be in line for the big bucks of an AJ payday thats just reality....but all the fanboys are all "0h 100 mil"..."oh 80 mil he makes way more than wilder hahahaha see i told you yay fury he really won i know it"...like a bunch of schmucks celebrating something that hasnt happened yet there is no return on invesment because bob hasnt actually invested anything yet nobody brags about "billions in haymon checks"...we simply tell you that if wilders purse is 2.1 mil...hes likely seeing a total around 3.6....its not a mystery...chavez has posted a check...thurman has talked about it....others have too....haymons guys get sidechecks...they arent huge....but they do add to their purse...they aint just making their listed purse....stop trying to act like we tell you guys are getting loaded off it lol...no one ever did that....but when you clowns go around talking about how wilder makes 1-2 million were telling you its more than that but of course you cant be rooted in reality...nothing you UK twats say is rooted in it...save for maybe 2-3 of you who are realistic

Yeah everything is being done to spite wilder. this is always the case according to you guys, no one makes as much as they say but when it’s a pbc fighter you’re quick to tell us they’re making 2 billion in haymon secret cheques. Lol this kinda true

Dumbest post I have seen in awhile casual fans wants to see flawed knockout artists, not skillful boxers. Well you just topped it. Causuals want to see SKILLED KNOCK OUT artist. Name one flawed knock out artist like wilder that has become a super star

Because he's a terrible boxer bro. People dont want to see that shlt. You guys act like wilder has a surpreme talemt. He has not talent. Looks sloppy and often uncorrdianted in the ring. The Gp are dumb, but not that dumb. They don't like want they see Dumbest post I have seen in awhile casual fans wants to see flawed knockout artists, not skillful boxers.

lol some people have very little of grasp of furys actual deal here this move was done by arum to thwart wilders rising profile and momentum arum hates haymon...hes tries to thwart wilders rising popularity Yeah everything is being done to spite wilder. this is always the case according to you guys, no one makes as much as they say but when it’s a pbc fighter you’re quick to tell us they’re making 2 billion in haymon secret cheques.

The bolded part is gold! :lol1::lol1::lol1: How is it gold?

You use words like "blinded" mate but have you ever been to the UK? Have you ever been to the home of your president, Putin in Russia? Nope, you are absolutely a victim of the mindset that the USA is the hub of the universe, when in fact the British fans are the best in the world. When did you ever see a 20,000 fan invasion from the USA go anywhere to support a fighter? Never. You need to get out of the house mate - theres a whole world out there, enjoy. Did you mean to respond to me or read my post? Pretty sure you didnt.

Deontay Wilder's patience has paid off. At some point today, Bob Arum is going to send Wilder a massive television package, one that includes exposure, big bucks, television appearances, the type of shine that creates a superstar. In effect, it's the deal he has bled for, the deal he has fought for, the deal that is at the end of every boxing rainbow. CBS/Showtime has not taken care of Wilder, they have not put the same promotional might behind the WBC champion that they put behind Floyd, even when his conduct in the ring, and his amazing fight with Fury justifies it. After that huge fight, the buzz, the surprising PPV butyrate, where the f8$k was Wilder's big deal? Showtime dropped the ball, they took him for granted, he is a an undefeated knockout artist HW champion with a great personality, he should have already been a star. Arum set the market with Fury, and Fury has no belts, Wilder should ask for $100 million, with a $5 million dollar bonus for every belt he unifies, including the lineal title, plus at least 30% of the PPV buy upside on big shows. lets say 5 fights, including the eventual AJ fight. Wilder and Fury are such big commodities at this point, that they can force any HW not named AJ to fight on ESPN, so the civil war in boxing won't really matter. I know people hate Arum, I know it would be a blow to the PBC, but Wilder has a chance to be the undisputed champion of the world, and be a star on America's most important sports network, this is a deal he CANNOT pass up, it will only help him during the eventual AJ negotiations. Unless DAZN offers him $200 million, he HAS to take this deal, Showtime/Fox won't be able to give Wilder the type of Canelo/AJ/Fury deal he is looking for. Sorry brother I stopped reading your post the minute you compared Wilder to Floyd fughin Mayweather Before you go off your rocker , I’m no fan of Floyd , think the man is a clown with big coin , but no fughin comparison You can’t say that , it’s just crazy Dude Floyd is making millions from wwe style exhibition fake fughin fights Wilder is nowhere close to that , neither is AJ or fughin Canelo who’s the horse now a days

he certainly made a business decision......how genius it is remains to be seen.....fury hasnt fought anyone yet and he has to fight aj and wilder in order to cash in on the number they flaunted to the press That's what everyone doesn't seem to understand. The only way bottom line Bob recoups that kind of money is with a fight with either Wilder or Joshua. No one else can bring that kind of money. Not Whyte, not Ortiz, not Brazeale, not anyone. Add in that it's more than obvious that team Joshua ain't gonna let anyone have that big of the piece of the pie. Wilder is in better place than most here realize.

He doesn't stand a chance of landing Wilder on ESPN because Deontay is very satisfied, happy and comfortable with his position at Showtime and the PBC. Just the other day he said that he has enough fights lined up for the next two years with the PBC. So I don't see him clearing out anytime soon for Warren's and Arum's fools Gold at Top Rank and ESPN. If Fury really wants the rematch and that WBC title, which he doesn't, then why don't he sign with AL Haymon and the PBC?

Nah mate, how is it nationlism at all I'm disputing the UKs ability to make anyone a superstar and saying it's more to do with AJs accomplishments and personality making a living as 'the humble guy' beating the big mouth like Martin, Whyte and Brezeale. People love to see the bully picking on the wrong guy its even a thing on YouTube ffs. Classic Cuck Henning trying to make it about race in someway, you're too predictable. You're blinded by your hate for him and love for Wilder. Try saying AJ ain't special and top ten fighters don't stand a chance whilst also being the No.1 heavyweight in half the fights of Wilder who's supposed to be with TBE manager Al Haymon doesn't cut it. Fury hasn't got a gold medal and he's surpassed Wilder as well. AJ and Wilder have two different completely different personalities Wilders got a chip on his shoulder and an attitude problem and has to talk himself up constantly. AJ comes across extremely well in chatshows go check them out, (Graham Norton probably the most obvious examples) and his latest appearance on Sway was alright a bit corny but that ain't a bad thing. He is also liked almost everywhere he goes he is liked. He doesn't have to be telling people he's the best because he knows he is in his own mind and it shows compared to Wilder having to talk himself up and AJ down all the time. Have you noticed AJ never talks Wilder down even when interviewers try and get him to? That's the difference. https://youtu.be/FszP4SaGjGQ - AJ on Conan https://youtu.be/palGYYkD3gQ - AJ in Mayweather gym "no charisma doe" At the end of the day your confusing ****iness with charisma. I wouldn't even be doing this if you lot didn't feel the need to hate on everyone that ain't 'your guy' at the expense of what is actually going on in the real world. Also the ironic thing is how you guys want to constantly remind us how much more money there is in boxing in the US compared to the UK constantly and then blame Wilders lack of success down to being American. Boxing still isn't mainstream in UK btw. You use words like "blinded" mate but have you ever been to the UK? Have you ever been to the home of your president, Putin in Russia? Nope, you are absolutely a victim of the mindset that the USA is the hub of the universe, when in fact the British fans are the best in the world. When did you ever see a 20,000 fan invasion from the USA go anywhere to support a fighter? Never. You need to get out of the house mate - theres a whole world out there, enjoy.

Deontay Wilder's patience has paid off. At some point today, Bob Arum is going to send Wilder a massive television package, one that includes exposure, big bucks, television appearances, the type of shine that creates a superstar. In effect, it's the deal he has bled for, the deal he has fought for, the deal that is at the end of every boxing rainbow. CBS/Showtime has not taken care of Wilder, they have not put the same promotional might behind the WBC champion that they put behind Floyd, even when his conduct in the ring, and his amazing fight with Fury justifies it. After that huge fight, the buzz, the surprising PPV butyrate, where the f8$k was Wilder's big deal? Showtime dropped the ball, they took him for granted, he is a an undefeated knockout artist HW champion with a great personality, he should have already been a star. Arum set the market with Fury, and Fury has no belts, Wilder should ask for $100 million, with a $5 million dollar bonus for every belt he unifies, including the lineal title, plus at least 30% of the PPV buy upside on big shows. lets say 5 fights, including the eventual AJ fight. Wilder and Fury are such big commodities at this point, that they can force any HW not named AJ to fight on ESPN, so the civil war in boxing won't really matter. I know people hate Arum, I know it would be a blow to the PBC, but Wilder has a chance to be the undisputed champion of the world, and be a star on America's most important sports network, this is a deal he CANNOT pass up, it will only help him during the eventual AJ negotiations. Unless DAZN offers him $200 million, he HAS to take this deal, Showtime/Fox won't be able to give Wilder the type of Canelo/AJ/Fury deal he is looking for. Wow! Delusion. Wilder has had lots of opportunities to unify. He treated those opportunities like your home phone - he didnt even answer. Nor did he answer e mails and contractual offers put in front of his nose. Dont you get it? He always talks about reasons why HE WONT FIGHT JOSHUA, and never about how he might, or can, or is trying to. He only said "I have enough opponents for 2 years". These are FACTS, not Trumpisms. Get your head out of your hoop and into reality.

ive seen more than enough of both AJ and wilder if wilder was born in the UK and had a british accent and was a UK gold medalist hed be in the same exact position as AJ....if AJ were born in america and a US bronze medalist hed be in the exact same position as wilder its the cold hard truth pretending otherwise is just foolish nationalism....in fact the last time a US fighter actually broke through and captivated an audience he acted like a jackass for the cameras.....AJ isnt charismatic...ive seen him...ive watched his doc before the klitschko fight on netflix...and seen many interviews with AJ....hes fairly dull good fighter....marketable enough...but nothing special...he'd be wilder if he were american.....but keep waving your pom poms...youf inferiority complex doesnt show at all! youre hiding it so well lol Nah mate, how is it nationlism at all I'm disputing the UKs ability to make anyone a superstar and saying it's more to do with AJs accomplishments and personality making a living as 'the humble guy' beating the big mouth like Martin, Whyte and Brezeale. People love to see the bully picking on the wrong guy its even a thing on YouTube ffs. Classic Cuck Henning trying to make it about race in someway, you're too predictable. You're blinded by your hate for him and love for Wilder. Try saying AJ ain't special and top ten fighters don't stand a chance whilst also being the No.1 heavyweight in half the fights of Wilder who's supposed to be with TBE manager Al Haymon doesn't cut it. Fury hasn't got a gold medal and he's surpassed Wilder as well. AJ and Wilder have two different completely different personalities Wilders got a chip on his shoulder and an attitude problem and has to talk himself up constantly. AJ comes across extremely well in chatshows go check them out, (Graham Norton probably the most obvious examples) and his latest appearance on Sway was alright a bit corny but that ain't a bad thing. He is also liked almost everywhere he goes he is liked. He doesn't have to be telling people he's the best because he knows he is in his own mind and it shows compared to Wilder having to talk himself up and AJ down all the time. Have you noticed AJ never talks Wilder down even when interviewers try and get him to? That's the difference. https://youtu.be/FszP4SaGjGQ - AJ on Conan https://youtu.be/palGYYkD3gQ - AJ in Mayweather gym "no charisma doe" At the end of the day your confusing ****iness with charisma. I wouldn't even be doing this if you lot didn't feel the need to hate on everyone that ain't 'your guy' at the expense of what is actually going on in the real world. Also the ironic thing is how you guys want to constantly remind us how much more money there is in boxing in the US compared to the UK constantly and then blame Wilders lack of success down to being American. Boxing still isn't mainstream in UK btw.

You do know that Manny's contractual purses were always around the 6-8 million range right? His guarantees of 20 million came from revenue and PPV sales. Arum didn't want guarantee Manny to 20 million to fight Crawford because the money wasn't there. Manny wasn't bringing in the same money as before. But yet you believe they are going to be giving Fury a $20 million purse every fight? No fight without Wilder or Fury will give Fury $20 million, no other fights will bring in enough revenue.wilder and aj will get done you can bank on it. hell there maybe an aj trilogy in there too

You do know that Manny's contractual purses were always around the 6-8 million range right? His guarantees of 20 million came from revenue and PPV sales. Arum didn't want guarantee Manny to 20 million to fight Crawford because the money wasn't there. Manny wasn't bringing in the same money as before. But yet you believe they are going to be giving Fury a $20 million purse every fight? No fight without Wilder or Fury will give Fury $20 million, no other fights will bring in enough revenue.u are confused. On paper manny had 20 mil guaranteed. For the commission sheet it showed a lower purse amount to pay less in sanctioning fees and taxes. No different than what Spence and garcia will show on paper next week. Just like on paper Ruiz showed making 20k for Santa Cruz when we all know he wouldn’t fight him for that. Never ever go by the commission report. Now you have espn backing these deals. Don’t forget that part. There is more $ available.

These guys have no clue. Arum wouldn't even pay Manny $20 million to fight Crawford but he's going to pay Fury that much when Manny is still a bigger name and draw. People believe he's going to get $20 million to fight Pulev or Jennings when none of those fights will bring in that revenue. alot of these guys will tell you money doesnt matter "we just wanna see the best fights" when it benefits them...but when fury has big money numbers thrown out there and they can say "haha fury makes more than wilder now" they love it.....but they dont really have a clue what this deal is....they like looking at the big fat number not realizing that wilder could easily make the same amount of money over the next 2-3 years too if he gets the same fights

no contract is guaranteed for losses. But Wilder would be guaranteed at least one more Fury fight if not two. He can lose to Fury and still get a third fight too. Since you are stating Fury doesn’t have a $100 million contract I’m asking you what his minimum purse is. That’s the true value of his contract. For instance Wilder made anot 3 million for Ortiz. I bet Wilder can get his minimum more than double that on espn. You do know that Manny's contractual purses were always around the 6-8 million range right? His guarantees of 20 million came from revenue and PPV sales. Arum didn't want guarantee Manny to 20 million to fight Crawford because the money wasn't there. Manny wasn't bringing in the same money as before. But yet you believe they are going to be giving Fury a $20 million purse every fight? No fight without Wilder or Fury will give Fury $20 million, no other fights will bring in enough revenue.

Wilder is not well known because he has fought bums. Let’s see what bum he fights next .

fury doesnt have any deal without wilder and AJ....those fights, and furys take of them, are estimated into that figure....without them he doesnt make that you think top rank and espn are going to pay fury 100 mil to fight pulev, jennings, joyce, ortiz and whyte? hahaha ...nope you guys arent understanding what this deal is or how it works.....fury doesnt have 100 mil guaranteed.....its not happening without wilder and aj....and he could get knocked out by whichever one he fights first and that will not help These guys have no clue. Arum wouldn't even pay Manny $20 million to fight Crawford but he's going to pay Fury that much when Manny is still a bigger name and draw. People believe he's going to get $20 million to fight Pulev or Jennings when none of those fights will bring in that revenue.