will the top rank fanboys demand lopez step up and take an easy to make in house fight against loma? or will he be too young and too green in ways that gervonta davis could never be?
by my accounts lopez should be ready for this by summer-late 2020
when arum says that hes not ready to make that fight and the timing isn't right just yet will you support him or hate on him the way you guys do to davis?
I already know the answer....but ill ask anyway
I hope some of the fights I mentioned can come off. Haney is my personal favorite between him, Davis and Lopez. I like Haney's personality, his skills, and the fact that he is promoting or co-promoting himself is great, I just really like Haney a lot as a person, he is a nice guy when you see his interviews. Personally I think Lopez' defense is too wide open and he is easy to hit (man, that flat nose tells a story) and though he has power and accuracy, I would pick Haney and Davis and Lom over him due to their ring IQ. Of all of them, the fighter with the best chance against Lom would be Davis I think. But if a number of those fights comes off, Boxing will be rewarded with a superstar or two.
good stuff right there....i agree...alot of variables there though and seems a bit down the line from here....but hopefully not....anyways...cheers
He said he's moving to 140 because he's outgrowing 135. That's a difference.
I get the impression he is name dropping Loma for attention though. It would be interesting to see if he can win a belt and Loma offers him a fight. Surely he'd stick around for 1 more fight if he wanted it?
https://youtu.be/ZuvSx0ZYfAU
Loma should demand the fight. Lopez and his dad been talking mad **** on YouTube interviews. Good fight to make.
I never once suggest lopez was ready and should be chris...u know that
and you know exactly what I'm saying....davis last year and lopez mid-late 2020 will be in almost identical situations....and in fact lopez/loma will be easier to make because its in house
if arum tries to make the same excuse tank has used do you think the fans will give Top rank a pass and be ok with it or talk about them like they do lopez/Floyd
its hard to know exactly what TR would do....but its not unlikely to hear something similar from arum about how he wants the fight to be bigger and for lopez to become a bigger star first...so how do you think people would react if bob pulled a tank?
I don't think it's upto Bob as much when dealing with Loma.
I think it's Loma and his dad that pretty much sais who they will fight and then get Bob to make it.
well...as far as i know tank is with floyd ...basically pbc...and haney has his own license i think(not clear on his situation) but hes basically pbc too....lopez is TR....thats a muddled mess......alot depends on how fast haney plans on moving.....there are too many variables there really to paint a picture between those 3 guys + loma
my main point was that lopez will soon be in the same position tank was in last year....by 2020....if lopez was still at 135 i just wonder if people would be demanding a 23 year old lopez get it on with loma the same way they act about tank...i know tank has spoken about ...but thats probably just for attention......im willing to bet people would excuse TR not making the fight in 2020 between lopez and loma because neither guy is affiliated with al haymon....who seems to get a ton of heat even though he makes just as good of fights as anyone out thereI hope some of the fights I mentioned can come off. Haney is my personal favorite between him, Davis and Lopez. I like Haney's personality, his skills, and the fact that he is promoting or co-promoting himself is great, I just really like Haney a lot as a person, he is a nice guy when you see his interviews. Personally I think Lopez' defense is too wide open and he is easy to hit (man, that flat nose tells a story) and though he has power and accuracy, I would pick Haney and Davis and Lom over him due to their ring IQ. Of all of them, the fighter with the best chance against Lom would be Davis I think. But if a number of those fights comes off, Boxing will be rewarded with a superstar or two.
I didn't say there were any conspiracies here....and I think loma fans would want to see lopez "prove it if he said it"
but when arum says the timing isn't right and he wants to build lopez up a little more to make it a bigger fight will the same guys be ok with it or harp on lopez/arum the way they do davis/Floyd?
you know a lot of lomas fans are also fans of Crawford and lopez........
Crawford fans often tell us that pbc wont make good fights or their guys fight each other at WW...which is complete and utter horse ****
loma fans will demand that davis get in now and make the fight or else hes a clown poosy...but will they be ok when arum says "not right now...lopez is still very young"?!?!
Nah they won't be okay with Lopez challenging Lomas dominance and not taking it to the ring not many fans care what Arum says the only people that will be okay with that is Lopez fans if they believe he actually isn't ready.
I was not demanding that Davis fights Loma and I won't be demanding Lopez fights Loma. The thing is that Lopez is vocal about wanting to face Loma while Davis is a lot less vocal. If Mayweather wants to age Loma first that might backfire since Loma said he wants to retire after getting all the tittles.
What about Lopez / Davis / and Haney fighting each other as well? The winner of any combination of those fights becomes the top contender at 135 for Lom or Commey.
well...as far as i know tank is with floyd ...basically pbc...and haney has his own license i think(not clear on his situation) but hes basically pbc too....lopez is TR....thats a muddled mess......alot depends on how fast haney plans on moving.....there are too many variables there really to paint a picture between those 3 guys + loma
my main point was that lopez will soon be in the same position tank was in last year....by 2020....if lopez was still at 135 i just wonder if people would be demanding a 23 year old lopez get it on with loma the same way they act about tank...i know tank has spoken about ...but thats probably just for attention......im willing to bet people would excuse TR not making the fight in 2020 between lopez and loma because neither guy is affiliated with al haymon....who seems to get a ton of heat even though he makes just as good of fights as anyone out there
will the top rank fanboys demand lopez step up and take an easy to make in house fight against loma? or will he be too young and too green in ways that gervonta davis could never be?
by my accounts lopez should be ready for this by summer-late 2020
when arum says that hes not ready to make that fight and the timing isn't right just yet will you support him or hate on him the way you guys do to davis?
I already know the answer....but ill ask anywayNo response to my earlier reply to your thread?
By the same token Top Rank made a fight between two p4p top 10 guys with Loma and Rigo with the exception being that Rigo wasn’t even top 10 so he’s clearly willing to work and deal with other fighters regardless of promotional affiliation.
I’ve honestly never seen a Top Rank fanboy. I’d never even seen a promoter fanboy until I saw PBC fanboys. It’s just an utterly bizarre concept to me.
you havent seen one because you dont want to see one...its not hard to find if you are around..i seem them all the time
making a deal with rigo is easy...there werent any other good fights for rigo and rigo wasnt with a major competitor......
and yer completely missing the point on that....haymon is putting two of his major p4p stars against each other....with rigo arum didnt have him.....so all his guy has to do is win and hes not damaging some of his product
every thread with crawfords resume in question has some guy in there attacking haymons WW program...and hes putting two top unbeaten p4p guys against each other...and hes put garcia, thurman, and porter all against each other....and theres still more in store in the future.....that was my point....rigo was not a TR fighter
id say there as many TR fanboys are there are pbc fanboys...for every one there is probably one on the other side...the factions are at war constantly....some might not even realize they are TR fanboys but they hate pbc and haymon so much(mostly prolly cause of association with floyd) they find themselves saying things like "yeah well crawford cant get no fights cause haymon wont let his guys fight crawford..and hell he wont even let his guys fight each other...they make terrible fights"....when haymon has made plenty of good WW fights and is about to put two unbeaten p4p guys against each other there...and still has plenty of time to make more good fights......i swear i see this every time someone mentions crawfords lack of good fights or potential fights...guys get all defensive and attack haymons WW stable when hes put danny, thurman and porter all in with each other....and hes putting mikey/spence on...and he can still do some real good fights down the road
By the same token Top Rank made a fight between two p4p top 10 guys with Loma and Rigo with the exception being that Rigo wasn’t even top 10 so he’s clearly willing to work and deal with other fighters regardless of promotional affiliation.
I’ve honestly never seen a Top Rank fanboy. I’d never even seen a promoter fanboy until I saw PBC fanboys. It’s just an utterly bizarre concept to me.
I'll say wait until it unfolds. My guess is that if Lopez gets the WBC belt and wants the fight it will happen no problem. I don't think Loma is at the point where Top Rank are cashing him out so he's their guy so I think they'll want what he wants which is undisputed.
I'm not sure that Top Rank really has fanboys in the manner that PBC does. I see a lot of new Lopez fans claiming he's getting ducked by Loma and then he'll break Loma and I see Loma fans thinking he'll school the kid. I've seen logical people say he's not ready for Loma but if it happens it happens. I just hope if it does happen the people who swear Lopez wins will give credit and not lie after the fight and that they'll still support Lopez but my guess is that it will be a no on both counts.
id say there as many TR fanboys are there are pbc fanboys...for every one there is probably one on the other side...the factions are at war constantly....some might not even realize they are TR fanboys but they hate pbc and haymon so much(mostly prolly cause of association with floyd) they find themselves saying things like "yeah well crawford cant get no fights cause haymon wont let his guys fight crawford..and hell he wont even let his guys fight each other...they make terrible fights"....when haymon has made plenty of good WW fights and is about to put two unbeaten p4p guys against each other there...and still has plenty of time to make more good fights......i swear i see this every time someone mentions crawfords lack of good fights or potential fights...guys get all defensive and attack haymons WW stable when hes put danny, thurman and porter all in with each other....and hes putting mikey/spence on...and he can still do some real good fights down the road
Cuz they want the older fighter 1st before he leaves the game or before the age excuse comes in to play.He is not leaving the game that soon so the question is who would not want to see those other fights too?
What about Lopez / Davis / and Haney fighting each other as well? The winner of any combination of those fights becomes the top contender at 135 for Lom or Commey.
Cuz they want the older fighter 1st before he leaves the game or before the age excuse comes in to play.
Yeah most people will say make the fight.
If a fighter says they're better than some one or consitently says they don't rate someone around their weight who is largely considered better then they should expect to be called to fight them.
There's no conspiracies here, you think Loma fans are going to want Lopez saying he'll beat Loma and not proving it?
Yes, cuz like the poster said, they are top rank fanboys.
I guess tank still won't be 'ready' in 2020 if we're lining up 12 fight prospects in advance. I get the in house dynamic to the situation, but are we now just excusing fights never happening cuz the fighters have different promoters? from now until that time, people will still be calling for loma vs tank. if you're concerned with the hate tank has been getting, just wait until lopez steps up to the plate first with less than 20 fights.
lets be honest...theres a certain group of people that want davis to fight loma right now or even last year because they feel strongly davis would lose and they think its like beating Floyd by proxy....but when they get realistic for that one second they know it doesn't make sense for davis right now
with lopez I get the feeling they'll say something like "by 2020 lopez will be too big to fight loma" or something like that
its only when theirs guys wont fight they will make excuses......"oh that guy is too big for him" or whatever....but Floyd was a poos when he wouldn't entertain a fight with lil g.....and of course canelo was a poos too when he waited till he was like goddamn 27 to face a p4p rated unbeaten MW champ....even though he still fought him twice
but when golovkin didn't fight ward "oh man ward way too big mon...that not fair"
these guys will give arum the ok to avoid this fight because arum would say it don't make sense at this time.....but they wanna give davis holy hell
props to arum if he does make this fight in 2020 though..it will surprise me
Bro you are trippin' hard
Can't speak for all Loma fans, but as his countryman who has followed him since the amateurs there is not a fighter 135 and south of it that I wouldn't want to see him in with.
I think he is the best and I don't care if its now or in 2 years that anyone wants to fight him.
Make it happen!
So far Floyd/Davis don't want that work.
Who the **** is Lopez? Kid is #34 The kid is trying to build a name using Loma's.
It's been made clear by Loma, mandos and other champs, he wants to unify.
What is there left to discuss?
Nope. Lopez already said he's moving to 140 lbs to avoid lomachenko.
He said he's moving to 140 because he's outgrowing 135. That's a difference.
I get the impression he is name dropping Loma for attention though. It would be interesting to see if he can win a belt and Loma offers him a fight. Surely he'd stick around for 1 more fight if he wanted it?