Most people now agree that Wilder is not all that. He just about got past an ancient Cuban unknown and then struggled against an ungainly drug and drink rehabbed fatty.
But what about Fury? He had that night against Wlad. A lethargic, lulled to sleep Wlad who simply didnt show up. He did well against Wilder, but now that we know Wilder is really awful, how much did that increase Fury's stock?
It's as though Arreola and say, John McDermott were unbeaten, and fought each other in a close and exciting scrap - but if they're both protected and overrated what did we learn? Joshua would destroy both of those guys on the same night. It's good to see many US based youtubers calling Wilder out for his ducking finally. Who knows...if he lands a lucky punch in Fury maybe public pressure will make him try for the one name one face one champion fight he has been running his mouth off about for years. Personally I believe he will either continue his ducking, or get beat anyway by Fury and go back to fighting bums in front of a couple thousand Alabamans in a town hall somewhere in redneck USA
Yeah wlads whole game was based on controlling distance, jab, grab and lean. Pretty much unbeatable in his prime years against smaller fighters but he couldn't apply his best attributes against fury.
Honestly mate, I said that PRIOR to the Wlad fight. That WK's schtick of leaning on and sapping the energy out of opponents won;t work with Fury. That is also Fury's schtick, and he does it just as well.
He was underrated by US brigade on here prior to the Wilder fight. Now he's overrated on here.
Let's face it, he's had 2 fights of note. One brilliant performance against Klitschko and one decent performance against Wilder. I say decent as he was fighting a guy who can only launch rights - and he got put down twice.
Fury would give any fighter in history problems. But the best would find a way. And in a top level fight with Fury you typically get 12 rounds to land on him.
I think we have a good idea of how good Wilder is. Good chin, big man, holds his power late, limited boxing ability.
Fury is an open book in terms of what he can and can't do. Awkward huge man, can move and box but doesn't look too finish fights.
Joshua is still the unknown. Just 22 fights, a very good resume, yet we still don't know just how good he can be. No obvious weaknesses but some doubts as to his chin.
Fair do's. Regarding Joshua's chin...he's been caught by some big hitters - Whyte, Wlad, Povetkin. I reckon he has a very good chin. At heavyweight they can all bang, but AJ has been hit by a few of the heaviest handed ones and his chin, and conditioning, have got him through. Chisora was out cold from that Whyte left, and Klitschko has dozens of ko's at HW.
I think Wilder's is decent too - really want Fury to get the belt he won but was robbed off - in the rematch. But if Wilder wins maybe, just maybe he will stop ducking Joshua and we will get to see that fight.
Got called a hypejob, a fluke, got lucky fighting an old man etc. Came back after a 6-month Weight Watchers camp and totally outclassed the so-called greatest American Heavyweight out there, and now you're calling him overrated. Idiots.
He was underrated by US brigade on here prior to the Wilder fight. Now he's overrated on here.
Let's face it, he's had 2 fights of note. One brilliant performance against Klitschko and one decent performance against Wilder. I say decent as he was fighting a guy who can only launch rights - and he got put down twice.
Fury would give any fighter in history problems. But the best would find a way. And in a top level fight with Fury you typically get 12 rounds to land on him.
I think we have a good idea of how good Wilder is. Good chin, big man, holds his power late, limited boxing ability.
Fury is an open book in terms of what he can and can't do. Awkward huge man, can move and box but doesn't look too finish fights.
Joshua is still the unknown. Just 22 fights, a very good resume, yet we still don't know just how good he can be. No obvious weaknesses but some doubts as to his chin.
Most people now agree that Wilder is not all that. He just about got past an ancient Cuban unknown and then struggled against an ungainly drug and drink rehabbed fatty.
But what about Fury? He had that night against Wlad. A lethargic, lulled to sleep Wlad who simply didnt show up. He did well against Wilder, but now that we know Wilder is really awful, how much did that increase Fury's stock?
It's as though Arreola and say, John McDermott were unbeaten, and fought each other in a close and exciting scrap - but if they're both protected and overrated what did we learn? Joshua would destroy both of those guys on the same night. It's good to see many US based youtubers calling Wilder out for his ducking finally. Who knows...if he lands a lucky punch in Fury maybe public pressure will make him try for the one name one face one champion fight he has been running his mouth off about for years. Personally I believe he will either continue his ducking, or get beat anyway by Fury and go back to fighting bums in front of a couple thousand Alabamans in a town hall somewhere in redneck USA
Red K bomb for calling the future GOAT, the HW Locche, Sweet Pea in Goliath's body, boxings Achilles, overrated.
Fury can stop you cold with both hands, fight from any stance, can throw more punches per round than Margarito, floats like a butterfly, and stings like a nuclear warhead.
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You ever see a 6'8" 260 pound superheavyweight move like him?
no
and you'll never see it again
bow down to the gypsy king
Fury is the most skilled HW since Larry Holmes.
Wilder is getting another asswhipping in 3 months and AJ is going to get schooled to hell.
He's hardly Fred Astair in there! All this bollocks about how graceful and slick he is. He is a herky jerky awkward big fella who controls distance quite well. But somehow he has been made into this fabled slickster who would beat a prime Apollo Creed with one hand while drinking a pint with the other.
Wilder is poo, and Fury won't have any joy trying to control the range against AJ. Joshua is a big lad too, and can deliver power on the inside.
TF has no chance against him.
Prime klitschko struggles with any version of fury. He was always ocd, never let his hands go and would aways be out lengthed by fury.
If you didn't spend years trolling about the HW scene I might debate this with you but I know it's pointless.
(the trolling itself was pretty decent though so respect on that level)
Extremely over-rated. 2 World title fights in 11 years as a pro. Zero punching power. A hands down style that would see him demolished by a prime Heavyweight great.
He's been boxing in one of the worst eras for Heavyweights in history or he would get nowhere near a World title.
I've bashed on Wilder's technique and skill for literally years now but I get called a Wilder fanboy on a weekly basis.
Ironically, it's mostly by guys that are nothing but UK cheerleaders who don't really watch boxing, they just watch their favorite boxing celebs.
Lol WHAT SKILL AND TECHNIQUE?!? Lol. He's fun to watch because he's so sloppy. I've seen every fighter have a strong fan base and some rightfully so. But the aj fan club is the fewest numbers but the loudest voice. And they determine who you are a fan of. Lol. To much. Keep giving your insight bro. I follow you.
Shhhhh you have to pretend AJ is GOD or else you become a wilder fanboy. Oh no!!..... but you have spoken the TRUTH.
I've bashed on Wilder's technique and skill for literally years now but I get called a Wilder fanboy on a weekly basis.
Ironically, it's mostly by guys that are nothing but UK cheerleaders who don't really watch boxing, they just watch their favorite boxing celebs.
You ever see a 6'8" 260 pound superheavyweight move like him?
no
and you'll never see it again
bow down to the gypsy king
Fury is the most skilled HW since Larry Holmes.
Wilder is getting another asswhipping in 3 months and AJ is going to get schooled to hell.
All the current HWs are pretty *meh*. In fact, they're hot garbage compared to prime Klitschkos.
But... the era is more exciting because none of these guys are head and shoulders above the others. They could all beat each other right now. So, it's a better era ever though the champs aren't all that good.
Shhhhh you have to pretend AJ is GOD or else you become a wilder fanboy. Oh no!!..... but you have spoken the TRUTH.
Fury has still managed to stay undefeated against all reason. Look at Fury compared to Wlad, Wilder, and Joshua. Those other three are dedicated to boxing and fitness, yet Wlad and Wilder each had a rough night with Fury, and I don't think Joshua is in any rush to get in the ring with Fury either.
He lost to John Mcdermott but was awarded the victory in their first fight. It's not about liking Fury or hating him, he lost that fight.
I actually think of Fury like Broner, someone who became a world champion but lacked discipline and focus the more his star and reputation grew. The difference is, Fury always has a size advantage and his lack of discipline and focus hasn't caused him to lose.
Fury managed to beat Wlad (who was on an 11 year winning streak and in much better condition). Then, after 3 years of putting his body through hell and only fighting two tomato cans, he fought Wilder to a draw (who was also in much better condition).
Fury has still managed to stay undefeated against all reason. Look at Fury compared to Wlad, Wilder, and Joshua. Those other three are dedicated to boxing and fitness, yet Wlad and Wilder each had a rough night with Fury, and I don't think Joshua is in any rush to get in the ring with Fury either.
I think the draw was the best result that could of happened to Fury. Because now Fury seems to realize, that if he continues to stay focused and stays in shape between training camps, he has a good chance of beating both Wilder and Joshua.
I only read the first sentence about ortiz and the last sentence about rednecks and didn't have to see anything else to realize you're just trying to push an agenda by upping AJ and ****ting on Wilder.