He also.....you know.....beat Manny....
.... beat is a very big word , more like helped by the NSAC & USADA and gifted a very dubious points decision where he literally **** himself when every time one armed Pacquiao tagged him...hometown cooking at its finest
. You don't have to get excited over Floyd's victory, but the fact remains, the better Manny does now is evidence that he is not as over-the-hill as you would like him to be.
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For the people who think Pac is greater than Floyd already. Pac beating spence, thurman at 40 just makes people think Pac is even much greater than Floyd than they originally thought, and it will make Pac s critics admit Pac is better than they thought.
So because you think Pac was robbed, horns and Bradley's wins over Pac don't mean much and that you don't consider them losses for pac?. hmmn interesting.
So many aren't really impressed with floyds win over pac. As Floyd fought scared, even flois seniorwas screaming at floyd. Floyd said he'd ko pac, but fell way short. A wins a win but nobody is going to get excited at that victory, regardless of who Pac beats now onwards.
Just like rjj couldn't live off of his win over bh, no matter who bh went onto beat.
Literally does not matter. Where in the boxing judging criteria does it list; boxing with malice, Having your father support you, Living up to your standards set in the pressers. Completely irrelevant.
Ring Generalship, Defense, Effective Aggression, Hard and Clean Punches. Thats it. Idgaf what Floyd senior said during the fight, Idgaf if he said he was gonna knock him out, none of that matters. You don't have to get excited over Floyd's victory, but the fact remains, the better Manny does now is evidence that he is not as over-the-hill as you would like him to be.
I dont know if you know who Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is, but you remind me of her. You're judging with your "feelings" rather then what is facts. And as Shapiro would say Facts don't care about your feelings.
Well no because those were both robberies imo. But there is another ww who beat manny around that time....
So because you think Pac was robbed, horns and Bradley's wins over Pac don't mean much and that you don't consider them losses for pac?. hmmn interesting.
So many aren't really impressed with floyds win over pac. As Floyd fought scared, even flois seniorwas screaming at floyd. Floyd said he'd ko pac, but fell way short. A wins a win but nobody is going to get excited at that victory, regardless of who Pac beats now onwards.
Just like rjj couldn't live off of his win over bh, no matter who bh went onto beat.
You are the one who tried discredit everything about pac.
Pac beats all common opponents more convincingly and you make every excuse under the sun, from Floyd beat them first, through to they were better when Floyd beat them. When most unbiased can just admit Pac beat them more dominant as Pac s just greater than Floyd pure and simple. If Duran beat common opponents with hacker better than hagler, people would simply assume Duran greater. Why can't it be that simple to understand When it comes to pac and floyd?
When people says Pac s greater as he won titles in 8 divisions, your responds is 8 division titles is nothing he beat margarito? When people say Pacs amazing a former flyweight with 79 fights under belt being called out by today's elite levels it's nothing?
So you've got excuses for everything haven't you?
Versus common opponents Floyd has the better record. Manny beat Oscar and Cotto in better fashion. Floyd beat Shane and Marquez in better fashion. One make a argument for which performance against Hatton was impressive. Manny clearly was more dominant but Floyd put on a masterclass performance against an undefeated fighter. I won't argue the point. Hatton although likes Manny and is not fond of Floyd always regarded Floyd as the better fighter after fighting both.
Now getting to performance, Floyd has never lost, never tied, has never been dominated, has never dropped to the canvas in over 19 years as a professional and 17 on a championship level. And despite being an older man, he beat Pac head to head.
People bring up Floyd vs Castillo I and Floyd vs Maidana I more than Pac vs Nedal Hussein. Please tell me what was more outrageous?
If Pac beats thurman, horn must be top ten ATG. Bradley must be greatest ww ever also.
Well no because those were both robberies imo. But there is another ww who beat manny around that time....🤔🤔🤣🤣
A bad shoulder eh?
Not that I dont believe in manny or anything but you know what... he agreed to fcking fight didn't he?
Case closed Floyd > Manny
If Pac beats thurman, and then spence maybe horn can be top ten ATG oneday? Bradley must be greatest ww ever also.
No. Just means Floyd beat a bad shoulder Pac not far removed from loss to jmm. Jmm beat a better version of pac, yet admits pac s better
A bad shoulder eh?
Not that I dont believe in manny or anything but you know what... he agreed to fcking fight didn't he?
Case closed Floyd > Manny
After redpilling myself I'm retracting this. Manny beating Thurman just means that Floyd beat an even better manny then we thought.
No. Just means Floyd beat a bad shoulder Pac not far removed from loss to jmm. Jmm beat a better version of pac, yet admits pac s better
I mean if he beat Thurman I would say he has a better resume then Floyd...but just taking a fight nah.
But that logic ODLH is a top 10 atg.
After redpilling myself I'm retracting this. Manny beating Thurman just means that Floyd beat an even better manny then we thought.😂
GO back to sleep will you? Yes, jmm koed Pac so is clearly better than floyd. Torecampo is better than floyds he beat him first.
Except your not taking into account that Floyd beat Marquez without breaking a sweat. Idc what the scales say, Marquez agreed and lost every round. Now if you wanna argue torecampo is better then floyd then go ahead I'll watch..
But in the race between floyd and manny which is neck and neck. Floyd wins because he beat a very capable Manny. And if manny keeps on racking up wins then that is evidence that manny was more live then Floyd.
I mean who has floyd fought sense.
Berto(decent but meh)
McGregor (debuting as a boxer remember)
And a fixed exhibition against a teenager.
Floyd was so over the hill it isn't even funny.
Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao however beat the brakes off broner, knocked out matthysse, let's be honest he was robbed by Horn, beat up Bradley and Vargas. Manny is on fire!
Way over the hill Floyd > on fiyah Manny.
Pacquiao seems to have himself in sort of a paradox now.
He can go on and beat Thurman and Spence and even go up to beat Alvarez and that would all be great, but that would just make Floyd's win over him just that much better.
GO back to sleep will you? Yes, jmm koed Pac so is clearly better than floyd. Torecampo is better than floyds he beat him first.
Pacquiao seems to have himself in sort of a paradox now.
He can go on and beat Thurman and Spence and even go up to beat Alvarez and that would all be great, but that would just make Floyd's win over him just that much better.
Floyd beat JMM better. He beat Shane better. He beat odh and Hatton well before Manny did. He also has the best win out of the 2.
Just be fir when you compare. Stop letting your bias discredit every one that beats Manny.
You are the one who tried discredit everything about pac.
Pac beats all common opponents more convincingly and you make every excuse under the sun, from Floyd beat them first, through to they were better when Floyd beat them. When most unbiased can just admit Pac beat them more dominant as Pac s just greater than Floyd pure and simple. If Duran beat common opponents with hacker better than hagler, people would simply assume Duran greater. Why can't it be that simple to understand When it comes to pac and floyd?
When people says Pac s greater as he won titles in 8 divisions, your responds is 8 division titles is nothing he beat margarito? When people say Pacs amazing a former flyweight with 79 fights under belt being called out by today's elite levels it's nothing?
So you've got excuses for everything haven't you?
negative, he finished his career beating berto and McGregor...broner and Thurman would trump that. it doesn't really matter at this point, cuz the fight isn't even signed and I doubt pac would get by Thurman anyway.
Lol. I guess if you look at it that way then you're right. LOL