Mark my Words: Pacquiao beats Spence

Lmao Spence walked through Brooks best shots, the same shots that shook up Golovkin. Spence could easily fight at 154. Pacquiaos punches will tickle Spence's chin. Pacquiao would get laid out vs. Spence right now. what versions of these fights do you have? ggg walked through brooks shots and stopped him early. spence fought tentatively for the first half of the fight until slowly breaking spence down late. the way you described it is mind bobbling

What you forgot to realize. Horn was allowed to wrestle Manny in his home country. Horn wasn't able to wrestle Crawford in the ring for 2 reasons. Crawford was prepared of Horn's dirty tactics that he got from Horn's fight with Pac, and secondly the Ref didn't allow Horn to fight dirty in US soil. What you have to see is the physical dimensions of Pac and Crawford. Pac is a small did at 5'5" 1/2 and Horn a bigger guy in height and weight that he blows up to 165 lbs on fight night, which is basically a middleweight. So if the ref allows Horn to wrestle, Pac with his small frame will get wrestled and man handled as it showed in the fight. Horn couldn't do it with Crawford since Crawford is a tall and big welterweight than Pacquiao is, and as I've said, ref didn't allow wrestling in the ring for the Crawford fight. Which is suppose to be the right call since boxing is not wrestling. This is an art of pugilism and not crude wrestling tactics should never be allowed.. We don't watch boxing to be entertained the WWE way. unless your name is andre ward

Manny can win rounds because Errol can be hit and that wont matter because he has a great chin, Spence keeps coming and he lets his hands go, no way can Manny keep him off for 12 rnd, Horn is the only true WW Manny has fought in years he out muscled Manny easily, Spence is a lot more complete than Horn. Spence breaks Horn down and stops him. Mikey Garcia has more chance of beating Spence because of his precision. Manny gets stopped in a beat down. When was the last time Manny fought an elite full blown in prime WW ? If he does now he gets beat, they fighting Broners Vargas Algieris for a reason. Like I said, if Pac can be disciplined to fight in mid range he can win on points. Spence has no head movement can easily be hit as proven by how easily a slow Brook can hit him. Pac can go in and out break Spence. That said.. It's not a walk in the park. For me both can win this. Spence will have a hard time finding Pac in the midrange. While Pac will be cautious not getting body shot going in. If Pac last 12 rounds. Pac wins this, if Spence keeps on getting his body shots in and unloads on Pac. Pac crumbles. Basically, if Pac reaches 12 rounds. It's a no brainer Pac wins this. He can. This old Pac's footwork is still better than Spence. He can still go in and out.

And yes you should also know what makes Pac great is that he is a small dude that fights bigger men. As Horn and Spence are bigger men..That said, Pac without the ref allowing horn to wrestle would have Knocked Horn to kingdom come. Anyway, you should factor in Spence who fights in the inside majority of the time. Pac is seldom in the inside. His a midrange fighter. Spence will come in and move forward. Pac loves that kind of fighters. Pac can use his angles and tag Spence all night.. Spence fights in a phone booth exchange. Pac won't allow that.. And that is why.. This fight is up for grabs. This is a 50/50 fight. Pac can win this equally as Spence can find that body shot to make Pac crumble.. But if Pac's legs give him the range to keep himself in mid range. Pac will win on points in a 12 round epic fight. Manny can win rounds because Errol can be hit and that wont matter because he has a great chin, Spence keeps coming and he lets his hands go, no way can Manny keep him off for 12 rnd, Horn is the only true WW Manny has fought in years he out muscled Manny easily, Spence is a lot more complete than Horn. Spence breaks Horn down and stops him. Mikey Garcia has more chance of beating Spence because of his precision. Manny gets stopped in a beat down. When was the last time Manny fought an elite full blown in prime WW ? If he does now he gets beat, they fighting Broners Vargas Algieris for a reason.

I agree. On a fair and square fight with no dirty tactics old pac would have demolished horn as well. A prime pac batters him from pillar to post. But it doesn’t change the fact that horn will get KOed by spence no matter how he fights him wrestling or not for horn And yes you should also know what makes Pac great is that he is a small dude that fights bigger men. As Horn and Spence are bigger men..That said, Pac without the ref allowing horn to wrestle would have Knocked Horn to kingdom come. Anyway, you should factor in Spence who fights in the inside majority of the time. Pac is seldom in the inside. His a midrange fighter. Spence will come in and move forward. Pac loves that kind of fighters. Pac can use his angles and tag Spence all night.. Spence fights in a phone booth exchange. Pac won't allow that.. And that is why.. This fight is up for grabs. This is a 50/50 fight. Pac can win this equally as Spence can find that body shot to make Pac crumble.. But if Pac's legs give him the range to keep himself in mid range. Pac will win on points in a 12 round epic fight.

What you forgot to realize. Horn was allowed to wrestle Manny in his home country. Horn wasn't able to wrestle Crawford in the ring for 2 reasons. Crawford was prepared of Horn's dirty tactics that he got from Horn's fight with Pac, and secondly the Ref didn't allow Horn to fight dirty in US soil. What you have to see is the physical dimensions of Pac and Crawford. Pac is a small did at 5'5" 1/2 and Horn a bigger guy in height and weight that he blows up to 165 lbs on fight night, which is basically a middleweight. So if the ref allows Horn to wrestle, Pac with his small frame will get wrestled and man handled as it showed in the fight. Horn couldn't do it with Crawford since Crawford is a tall and big welterweight than Pacquiao is, and as I've said, ref didn't allow wrestling in the ring for the Crawford fight. Which is suppose to be the right call since boxing is not wrestling. This is an art of pugilism and not crude wrestling tactics should never be allowed.. We don't watch boxing to be entertained the WWE way. This is not boxing.. https://i.imgflip.com/1rw9ri.gif And Crawford didn't beat up Horn the way Pac did. Horn was about to go down in the 9th even with all the wrestling. http://www.hostpic.org/images/1707030357550097.jpg Horn's face after Crawford's fight. Pac did more damage to Horn than Crawford can ever do. It's 2 different fights, but the results shows who damaged who more. https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e29e92d7e9813139d67060a8f0a1ad05?width=650 https://theboxinghype.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Horn-Pacquiao-after-fight.jpg Watch this too see how Pac dismantled horn. I agree. On a fair and square fight with no dirty tactics old pac would have demolished horn as well. A prime pac batters him from pillar to post. But it doesn’t change the fact that horn will get KOed by spence no matter how he fights him wrestling or not for horn

I don't know if anyone else has said this yet...but... Words marked, dumbass.

Fighters have their strength and weaknesses. From comparing Spence to margarito now triangle theories, really? Pacquiao schools bradley, bradley beats marquez, marquez ko's pacquiao. Crawford or spence stopping horn means exactly zilch, pacquiao stopped cotto and floyd went 12, mosley beat mayorga, mayorga beat vernon, vernon beat mosley. Pacquiao beat bradley, bradley beat marquez, marquez beat pacquiao. Zilch. Spence would fight pacquiao like he usually does because that's how he fights, he's not a reckless fighter, his plan will be the usual, apply intelligent pressure, he'll try to stary faster than usual because Pacquiao is small and old, but he wont ever be coming in like horn, atleast not until the later rounds when he's more comfortable and warmed up, but he's likely to only do this if he has the momentum and is trying to push a stoppage or it's tight on the cards. Likely though is that Spence doesn't have the chin to do what horn does, but im just repeating myself, lets say he does, now the problem is he has never shown to fight like Horn with elbows, headbutting, tripping, aiming for the back of the head, falling in with the head and "walking"(something a guy with findamentals like spence would never do), I dont think i've even seen Spence fight on the inside for a prolonged period if at all. You've really brewed up quite the imaginary scenerio, from a spence as big as margarito, as relentless as a retarded horn with probably the chin and power of ggg. Anyway, good talk. I'm bowing out and just hoping the fight happens. Who said he’d fight like margarito or horn, as he’s better than both of them. He just needs to fight like the bigger and stronger guy with mean intentions behind his jab and defense, and not slowly approach pac like there’s no other way to pressure him than go head first, you are viewing spence as a one dimensional fighter who is not capable of making good game plans and adjusting his game. It’s like fighting Khan and not aiming for his chin since you’re a body puncher your entire life. Your approach for every fight should depend on the fighter you’re facing and when it comes to spence against pac, it is a 40 yr old past his prime fighter who’s chin has not been tested for years and has shown he’s uncomfortable to deal with constant pressure at this point in his career. I do believe Spence would’ve battered Broner worse. Will KO horn and matthysse as well, easier. At the end of the day I’ll root for pac no matter who he fights, but guys like you will probably get him KOed. You don’t go fire with fire at 40 against a big prime WW. You outspeed and outsmart him and limit his opportunities to hurt you. Everytime pac underestimates his opponent it doesn’t end well. Especially not at 40

Lmao Spence walked through Brooks best shots, the same shots that shook up Golovkin. Spence could easily fight at 154. Pacquiaos punches will tickle Spence's chin. Pacquiao would get laid out vs. Spence right now.

]Crawford KOed Horn. And Spence will probably do it even earlier. Manny couldn’t all the while throwing the kitchen sink at 39. That is not just because of the styles alone, it also tells the story of the physical advantages of the current beasts at WW. What you forgot to realize. Horn was allowed to wrestle Manny in his home country. Horn wasn't able to wrestle Crawford in the ring for 2 reasons. Crawford was prepared of Horn's dirty tactics that he got from Horn's fight with Pac, and secondly the Ref didn't allow Horn to fight dirty in US soil. What you have to see is the physical dimensions of Pac and Crawford. Pac is a small did at 5'5" 1/2 and Horn a bigger guy in height and weight that he blows up to 165 lbs on fight night, which is basically a middleweight. So if the ref allows Horn to wrestle, Pac with his small frame will get wrestled and man handled as it showed in the fight. Horn couldn't do it with Crawford since Crawford is a tall and big welterweight than Pacquiao is, and as I've said, ref didn't allow wrestling in the ring for the Crawford fight. Which is suppose to be the right call since boxing is not wrestling. This is an art of pugilism and not crude wrestling tactics should never be allowed.. We don't watch boxing to be entertained the WWE way. This is not boxing.. https://i.imgflip.com/1rw9ri.gif And Crawford didn't beat up Horn the way Pac did. Horn was about to go down in the 9th even with all the wrestling. http://www.hostpic.org/images/1707030357550097.jpg Horn's face after Crawford's fight. Pac did more damage to Horn than Crawford can ever do. It's 2 different fights, but the results shows who damaged who more. https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e29e92d7e9813139d67060a8f0a1ad05?width=650 https://theboxinghype.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Horn-Pacquiao-after-fight.jpg Watch this too see how Pac dismantled horn.

Crawford KOed Horn. And Spence will probably do it even earlier. Manny couldn’t all the while throwing the kitchen sink at 39. That is not just because of the styles alone, it also tells the story of the physical advantages of the current beasts at WW. What you’re hanging to is straight nostalgia. Hoping a 40 yr old pac outguns and outright hurts Spence off his mistakes in the initial exchanges — while the opposite is also likely or even much more. If Spence boxes off, won’t pressure Manny, won’t fight like the bigger guy, gives Manny room to breath then he gives Pac all the advantages. As pac is still the faster guy, and would still get off with his combos.. throw the lead left occasionally. Don’t just look at it on manny’s side. Now why would Spence fight that way against a smaller 40 yr old?? Why would he just fight like he normally does? Don’t you think he’d come up with a better game plan? As it will all depend there. Spence will outhorn horn if he chooses to.. Fighters have their strength and weaknesses. From comparing Spence to margarito now triangle theories, really? Pacquiao schools bradley, bradley beats marquez, marquez ko's pacquiao. Crawford or spence stopping horn means exactly zilch, pacquiao stopped cotto and floyd went 12, mosley beat mayorga, mayorga beat vernon, vernon beat mosley. Pacquiao beat bradley, bradley beat marquez, marquez beat pacquiao. Zilch. Spence would fight pacquiao like he usually does because that's how he fights, he's not a reckless fighter, his plan will be the usual, apply intelligent pressure, he'll try to stary faster than usual because Pacquiao is small and old, but he wont ever be coming in like horn, atleast not until the later rounds when he's more comfortable and warmed up, but he's likely to only do this if he has the momentum and is trying to push a stoppage or it's tight on the cards. Likely though is that Spence doesn't have the chin to do what horn does, but im just repeating myself, lets say he does, now the problem is he has never shown to fight like Horn with elbows, headbutting, tripping, aiming for the back of the head, falling in with the head and "walking"(something a guy with findamentals like spence would never do), I dont think i've even seen Spence fight on the inside for a prolonged period if at all. You've really brewed up quite the imaginary scenerio, from a spence as big as margarito, as relentless as a retarded horn with probably the chin and power of ggg. Anyway, good talk. I'm bowing out and just hoping the fight happens.

Spence via Career Ending KO. He ain't no Broner/Mattthyse. Those guys sucks, and not even top 147 boxers. Matthysse was actually ranked as a top 10 welter by several credible publications before his loss and retirement.

I wish this fight will happen. People will shock again on how easy this fight again for pac.

Again, Spence isnt a similar fighter to horn, or margarito or rios. He's a boxer puncher. If bundu was pushing him back, if peterson was pushing him back, if brook was pushing him back. Who of those guys would push margarito back or rios? These are different fighters. And im not thinking of the prime pacquiao, you're looking at things too plainly, like black and white. There are styles, each fighter has their style, spence is a better boxer than those guys, more skilled and faster of foot and hand, he's good at cutting off the ring and has great combinations, and has a solid jab, pacquiao cant run from spence like he's fighting margarito or rios, spence can slide on his feet and he knows how to weave/lean/step and counter too, it is absolutely not the same fight as fighting a brawler. And pacquiao ss not floyd to be sitting on the ropes shoulder rolling tiring the opponent out, he'll be on the ropes absorbing and if he plays too much defense he'll be worn down while spence will be relatively fresh. Running around wastes more stamina too, stamina = Having your strength, so im thinking of the age, he needs to drag spence along with him. Anyway, this is Pacquiao's style, im not trying to mold him into what I want him to do, it's how I think he'll fight too which is why I give him a shot. It doesnt have to be a pressure style or throwing 1000 punches, but he needs to fight spence to gain that respect and maintain it. Crawford KOed Horn. And Spence will probably do it even earlier. Manny couldn’t all the while throwing the kitchen sink at 39. That is not just because of the styles alone, it also tells the story of the physical advantages of the current beasts at WW. What you’re hanging to is straight nostalgia. Hoping a 40 yr old pac outguns and outright hurts Spence off his mistakes in the initial exchanges — while the opposite is also likely or even much more. If Spence boxes off, won’t pressure Manny, won’t fight like the bigger guy, gives Manny room to breath then he gives Pac all the advantages. As pac is still the faster guy, and would still get off with his combos.. throw the lead left occasionally. Don’t just look at it on manny’s side. Now why would Spence fight that way against a smaller 40 yr old?? Why would he just fight like he normally does? Don’t you think he’d come up with a better game plan? As it will all depend there. Spence will outhorn horn if he chooses to..

Again you’re viewing it like he’s the old Pacquiao. If Horn boxed and didn’t fight like a retard/someone using his size advantages he would have had his ears boxed off by Pacquiao. Apparently what he did, gave him some success and was enough to sway the judges. Spence will be the attacker in this fight and will fight like the bigger and stronger man as he is and as he should, (look what happened when canelo fought like the smaller guy against cotto) and it is best for manny to use plenty of movements to minimize spence’s offense at the same time letting him respect his power by throwing combos in spurts. Stick and move, counter and frustrate spence. There’s a huge reason Pac didn’t plow a relatively inactive Broner even harder like he’d likely use to. Even Prime pac used a lot of movements against slightly past his best margarito. And you think he’d go fire with fire against a prime and huge top WW at 40? Prime pac blitzes spence with movements and angles, all the while not carring for what his chin gets in return. Can’t do that now exactly, can he? Again, Spence isnt a similar fighter to horn, or margarito or rios. He's a boxer puncher. If bundu was pushing him back, if peterson was pushing him back, if brook was pushing him back. Who of those guys would push margarito back or rios? These are different fighters. And im not thinking of the prime pacquiao, you're looking at things too plainly, like black and white. There are styles, each fighter has their style, spence is a better boxer than those guys, more skilled and faster of foot and hand, he's good at cutting off the ring and has great combinations, and has a solid jab, pacquiao cant run from spence like he's fighting margarito or rios, spence can slide on his feet and he knows how to weave/lean/step and counter too, it is absolutely not the same fight as fighting a brawler. And pacquiao ss not floyd to be sitting on the ropes shoulder rolling tiring the opponent out, he'll be on the ropes absorbing and if he plays too much defense he'll be worn down while spence will be relatively fresh. Running around wastes more stamina too, stamina = Having your strength, so im thinking of the age, he needs to drag spence along with him. Anyway, this is Pacquiao's style, im not trying to mold him into what I want him to do, it's how I think he'll fight too which is why I give him a shot. It doesnt have to be a pressure style or throwing 1000 punches or not taking a step back, but he needs to fight spence to gain that respect and maintain it. Box circling around center ring is the best place to be.

No he doesnt He needs to sharp shoot spence down the middle then pivot out. Spence is hittable and Pac will make him pay for walk in throwing hard punches all the time. Exactly what he tried to do against relatively weaker Horn. 🤷🏻*♂️

I didnt want to mention horn as that would have made the post even longer, but it's an obvious place to jump. If Spence fought bullrushing in like Horn you'd have a point, but he doesnt, he's a boxer puncher, barely can even brawl. Spence absolutely is hesistent of being hit, it hasnt really stopped him from throwing yet(except vs the southpaw that wobbled him) but the way he responds shows he doesnt like being hit, where as take a retard like Horn and he'll just keep running into your right hooks(crawford fight), i'd wager Spence would become fairly tame early after getting hit by a guy like Pacquiao, his rally over that fear will come in the later rounds(his personality wont let him lose without giving it his all), Spence also doesnt have a chin on the level of the usual brawler, like Horn even. He was hurt by a featherfisted southpaw with a poorly connected punch if I remember correctly. Spence is no tank, he was moved around by Bundu and Brook. I've never seen Golovkin be muscled around like that, that's what i'd consider a tank, and with the durability to match. And fighting fire with fire is Pacquiao's style, it's even more important for Spence to keep him under wraps and never confident enough to come out with his youth. If Pacquiao fights quiet, and on the backfoot, he's letting Spence build courage and he's also not breaking Spence down to keep him weak. Anyway, that's my opinion. I think it's a more winnable fight than Thurman and Crawford but Pacquiao would be competitive with any of these guys. Again you’re viewing it like he’s the old Pacquiao. If Horn boxed and didn’t fight like a retard/someone using his size advantages he would have had his ears boxed off by Pacquiao. Apparently what he did, gave him some success and was enough to sway the judges. Spence will be the attacker in this fight and will fight like the bigger and stronger man as he is and as he should, (look what happened when canelo fought like the smaller guy against cotto) and it is best for manny to use plenty of movements to minimize spence’s offense at the same time letting him respect his power by throwing combos in spurts. Stick and move, counter and frustrate spence. There’s a huge reason Pac didn’t plow a relatively inactive Broner even harder like he’d likely use to. Even Prime pac used a lot of movements against slightly past his best margarito. And you think he’d go fire with fire against a prime and huge top WW at 40? Prime pac blitzes spence with movements and angles, all the while not carring for what his chin gets in return. Can’t do that now exactly, can he?

When Pac attacks, he lunges. 5'5'' will need to do some lunging vs 5'9'' A younger Pac would probably expose Spence. no he doesnt, not when the fighters are coming to him. he lunges when he has to chase after them. this will be a lot like pac vs rios and margarito.

the strategy against hatton, cotto. those 2 fighters have a lot like spence. and those 2 thought they would ko pac. exactly. I see Spence as quite Mechanical in his punching ability. Pac is still faster than Spence now and if people dont belive that their eyes are fooling them. Pac will have the speed and quickness advantage on Spence. Spence should try to impose his size behind his jab. The jab is the key. However if he just bores in he will get tagged. What happens then. ?

Pac has to move a lot and perfect a great game plan for him to pull the win off against a prime good fighter in spence at this age. He needs to fight disciplinely behind a jab and reduce his output even more to limit spence’s opportunities to hurt him. Basically he has to stick and move. Can’t believe i have to ever say this regarding pac, but he has to be a runner in this fight, and the boring it gets the better chances he has. What made pac exciting and phenomal during his prime were his unorthodox fighting style, wrecklessness, unpredictability and his will to take risk to do damage. His physical attributes basically bails him out from his mistakes. His chin can just disregard his flaws. And walk thru punches to return fire with combos. He has a lot of gears to switch as well. Unfortunately it’s far from the story today, his chin has not been tested in a long time and spence might just be big and powerful enough to shock that. I’d rather not see this fight, as I want pac to retire asap, and hold his head up high into the sunset. But yup, that’s what it takes to beat spence at this stage of his career. Stick and move and outspeed him. No more overwhelming or fire vs fire BS as only he’ll get outgun at 40. No he doesnt He needs to sharp shoot spence down the middle then pivot out. Spence is hittable and Pac will make him pay for walk in throwing hard punches all the time.