He’s a troll. He didn’t even say he won a close fight he really thinks he dominated. I’d love to rewatch the fight with him and have him explain the rounds he won to me
I didn’t score the fight and fast Forwarded to the scores because I wanted to go For a run as soon as it ended , I’ll be honest though I thought the 1 judge gave him 2 rounds , 1 of them 3 rounds , and the last Judge 4 rounds
I think if I actually scored the fight how I usually do it probably be about 4 rounds. But I’d have to watch it again to give my definite scorecard
Broner definitely won more then 2 like how Showtime was suggesting. I thought Broner as usual wasn’t throwing nearly enough to win but when he did they were crisp hard shots and did a decent job countering in many rounds , Manny as usual was throwing flurries but in many rounds wasn’t landing anything significant with the exception of the 3-4 rounds he hurt Broner. So in some rounds do you award Manny the round for being active but ineffective or Broner for being more effective but not active enough .
I usually tend to go with the harder shots over even if there are fewer of them when I score fights
But Showtime had the narrative set before the fight started and it seems like their going the way of HBO commentary which is kind of disappointing because for me they were always the best because they more often gave a honest account of fights
My bad though on saying the refs didn’t give Broner enough rounds , You’re straight catching all my f.uck ups today
haha all good man, not picking on ya.
but I guarantee when you score the fight you don't give Broner more than 3 rounds. I'm betting you give him 2 tbh.
Broner is a joke and always has been he was so rubbish he made manny looked good. Broner must be related to Trump he has no shame and if mayweather gives manny a rematch it will be just the same as the first fight.
Unfortunately for Broner his best work is at lower weights where he has the same speed advantage but can impose his size.
Any decent fighter above 140 will beat him and I’m not sure he can make weight below 147.
He should retire but he won’t and I don’t think his story ends well.
I don't understand the general narrative on Broner. A lot of people say that if he's dedicated, he's one of the best
Here's my take on Broner as a fighter:
At the lower weights, he had a massive size advantage, which afforded him a fighting advantage. The extent to this is clear in the fact he couldn't make weight for one of his title defences, and having to vacate the title.
He had one solid win against Demarco, but was clearly the much bigger man. We now have a better gauge on how good Demarco was, and he's not a great win.
At 147, he literally scraped against Mallignagi, and if Paulie had won, not many people would have complained. We all know what happened against Maidana. These are fighters arguably his own size, especially Paulie.
Against Taylor at 140, he looked severely limited against an even more limited opponent. Afterwards he was dominated by Shawn Porter.
Back down at 140 he won a title against an opponent who recieved a ranking out of the blue. He then proceeded to miss weight against the next opponent. At another catchweight against Granados, he literally scraped a win against him aswell.
He was outclassed by Garcia, and scored a draw against Vargas which was a good scorecard. Now, he has been outclassed against Pacquiao.
Now when people say that Broner has all of this talent... where is it? The only time he has displayed it is when he was much bigger than his opponents. I think his resume proves exactly what level Broner actually is, which I think is perhaps lower top 10 at either 140/147.
I can see Arum trying to court Broner for a fight against Crawford after this .
Not many options at Top Rank and Pac wouldn't fight him .
I think Haymon would be willing to extend an olive branch ( Broner ) to Arum if they Ever were serious about matching up TC with the PBC WW's .
Broner wants money fights. Berto, Alexander...are much more known than any 140 guy right now.
You think Broner will fight Relikh, Baranchyk, Prograis, taylor..???
What’s his options continue to lose at WW and become even more irrelevant with every loss. He’s proven he can’t compete there I mean most felt he lost to Jessie Vargas who ls a 2nd / 3rd Tier WW
Go to 140 a division with no real names or star power in hopes of actually stringing some Ws together and making noise there with the optics like he’s still a top end fighter in that division.
do you keep losing against known names or try and get some wins over unknown names or go the Oscar De La Hoya route his last 6-8 fights. Fight a fighter isn’t really known who he should beat ( even with judges help like the Sturm fight ) then take a big fight and lose and just keep doing that till the wheels falls off
How many Ls can Broner have against known WWs / Fighters until he’s irrelevant and no ones interested
Broner needs get focused and get his short fat body to stay at 140 because He’s proved he can’t hang with any decent WWs and his power doesn’t translate to WW. Plus right now 140 isn’t the strongest and he still might be able to make some noise there and stay somewhat relevant
Broner wants money fights. Berto, Alexander...are much more known than any 140 guy right now.
You think Broner will fight Relikh, Baranchyk, Prograis, taylor..???
Unfortunately for Broner his best work is at lower weights where he has the same speed advantage but can impose his size.
Any decent fighter above 140 will beat him and I’m not sure he can make weight below 147.
He should retire but he won’t and I don’t think his story ends well.
Broner still can continue fighting guys like Berto, Devon for solid money.
Broner needs get focused and get his short fat body to stay at 140 because He’s proved he can’t hang with any decent WWs and his power doesn’t translate to WW. Plus right now 140 isn’t the strongest and he still might be able to make some noise there and stay somewhat relevant
two of the judges gave him 4 rounds! How many would you have given him?
I gave him 3, and I was generous as hell!!
I didn’t score the fight and fast Forwarded to the scores because I wanted to go For a run as soon as it ended , I’ll be honest though I thought the 1 judge gave him 2 rounds , 1 of them 3 rounds , and the last Judge 4 rounds
I think if I actually scored the fight how I usually do it probably be about 4 rounds. But I’d have to watch it again to give my definite scorecard
Broner definitely won more then 2 like how Showtime was suggesting. I thought Broner as usual wasn’t throwing nearly enough to win but when he did they were crisp hard shots and did a decent job countering in many rounds , Manny as usual was throwing flurries but in many rounds wasn’t landing anything significant with the exception of the 3-4 rounds he hurt Broner. So in some rounds do you award Manny the round for being active but ineffective or Broner for being more effective but not active enough .
I usually tend to go with the harder shots over even if there are fewer of them when I score fights
But Showtime had the narrative set before the fight started and it seems like their going the way of HBO commentary which is kind of disappointing because for me they were always the best because they more often gave a honest account of fights
My bad though on saying the refs didn’t give Broner enough rounds , You’re straight catching all my f.uck ups today
He’s gotta save face with his fans and leave something for his haters.
He knows he lost, fighters know when they got their arse whooped.
He just has to leave something for his haters. This keeps people talking about him, and in some small way wanting to see him fight again in hopes of really seeing him get knocked out
Don’t think Broner won but think he did better then what Showtime was giving him credit for and probably should have been given a couple
More rounds from the judges
two of the judges gave him 4 rounds! How many would you have given him?
I gave him 3, and I was generous as hell!!
Don’t think Broner won but think he did better then what Showtime was giving him credit for and probably should have been given a couple
More rounds from the judges