If Manny were to fight and beat Spence would he outrank Floyd P4P?

Again with the excuses. Terrible. Your right Manny had the same exact career Roy did after their KOs. As a matter of fact, Sangsarut > Manny since we're going to play dumb like you

If you take one example and add it to everything else than you're basically simplifying the end result to your liking. We all know situations vary and because you decided to talk Roy, i slowly broke down the differences. After KTFO6 and losing to Floyd, Manny has still been on a pretty good run. Albeit, not 2006-2009 type run. He's stayed on everyone's p4p list and has defeated highly ranked opponents. Like Bradley, twice. We can say 3 times but judges judge. Roy... didn't have that luck. He controversially defeated Tarver and everyone knew he wasn't the same after. His next few fights showed that. If you cant see the difference between that, then i can't help you. It doesn't matter how much I type. You purposely not comprehending the difference isn't help you. Nor our discussion Again with the excuses. Terrible.

I said if floyd is better than Manny because of their head to head matchup, then Tarver and Calzaghe must be higher than Roy as well according to your logic. You brought up the excuses for Roy. As it is, I think Roy had a better career than both despite their matchups. Just as I have Manny higher than floyd. The overall point being, one head to head matchup doesnt define an entire career. If you take one example and add it to everything else than you're basically simplifying the end result to your liking. We all know situations vary and because you decided to talk Roy, i slowly broke down the differences. After KTFO6 and losing to Floyd, Manny has still been on a pretty good run. Albeit, not 2006-2009 type run. He's stayed on everyone's p4p list and has defeated highly ranked opponents. Like Bradley, twice. We can say 3 times but judges judge. Roy... didn't have that luck. He controversially defeated Tarver and everyone knew he wasn't the same after. His next few fights showed that. If you cant see the difference between that, then i can't help you. It doesn't matter how much I type. You purposely not comprehending the difference isn't help you. Nor our discussion

Take your trolling elsewhere. If you can't say anything whatsoever or manage to even type 1 sentence about your argument, then there is absolutely no reason for you to be in this thread. YOU brought up Roy. You still bring up Roy and think there are excuses or what not. I'll let you keep believing that my friend. Mavs vs Warriors is about to start. I said if floyd is better than Manny because of their head to head matchup, then Tarver and Calzaghe must be higher than Roy as well according to your logic. You brought up the excuses for Roy. As it is, I think Roy had a better career than both despite their matchups. Just as I have Manny higher than floyd. The overall point being, one head to head matchup doesnt define an entire career.

First explain why Roy needs excuses. Take your trolling elsewhere. If you can't say anything whatsoever or manage to even type 1 sentence about your argument, then there is absolutely no reason for you to be in this thread. YOU brought up Roy. You still bring up Roy and think there are excuses or what not. I'll let you keep believing that my friend. Mavs vs Warriors is about to start.

I not once said Manny isn't an ATG. My side is that I have Floyd ahead of him in terms of rankings.

3 reasons why pac is already above floyd. 1. Pac is the fighter of the decade while floyd is only a nominee 2. 8 division champion. floyd is only 5 division champ 3. 5 lineal division champ. floyd is only 3 division lineal champ this is not even close.

I don't think so. I wouldn't consider beating Spence to sway someone's opinion. I have Floyd higher (I have them more or less back to back in the rankings) but I do think it's perfectly acceptable to have Manny over Floyd though.

Give me the breakdown why manny is above floyd in your opinion. I've spoken enough on Roy. If you decide not to agree with it then cool. I'm simply asking for your take now. First explain why Roy needs excuses.

Give me the breakdown why manny is above floyd in your opinion. I've spoken enough on Roy. If you decide not to agree with it then cool. I'm simply asking for your take now.

lol no way he beats Spence or Garcia if he beats the winner of that fight yeah he outranks Floyd he already has more accomplishments.

He already outranks Floyd.

Its not about winning or losing an argument as you stated. Again, why is Roy Jones the only fighter to get an excuse? Give me the breakdown why manny is above floyd in your opinion. I've spoken enough on Roy. If you decide not to agree with it then cool. I'm simply asking for your take now.

And that's what Mayweather fans are really afraid of! Pac got bullied by a school teacher. I don't think anyone is worried about him beating Spence.

Pac is top 5 atg. He started at flyweight and had 60ish fights and 40.

Lol Floyd beat Pac. Pac is not in discussion. --- TUE 50-0 ran from the Filipino dwarf for 6 yrs resulting in a mental breakdown yielding a felony conviction. Poor dear can't break an egg. Had to be isolated from the rest of the inmates to protect his candy ass...keep that comedy coming!

It's not about winning or losing? Isn't this thread based on if Manny beats Spence? I broke down my side of this discussion. You refuted none of it. Came back with nothing in return but slick comments that got broken down. How about this.. give me a legit breakdown as to why you think Manny would outrank Floyd. Or if he does in your opinion, as to why Its not about winning or losing an argument as you stated. Again, why is Roy Jones the only fighter to get an excuse?

Lol Floyd beat Pac. Pac is not in discussion.

he already surpass floyd. I think he will become a FOTD again if he fight and beat Spence this year. And that's what Mayweather fans are really afraid of!

Today’s version of Pacquiao would struggle against Spence or Crawford big time but a 2010 Pacman would beat any of the elite welterweights of today in my opinion.