You had Ronda Rousey of course, but with Cyborg and Nunes, Karate Hottie etc there are quite a few female MMA fighters who are relatively well known at least among fight fans.
Why is this not the case for female boxers?
I've watched Katie Taylor a few times, I like her, but usually that's the time on the card I'll go do something else if i need too.
Hearn is trying with her though. He's had her on the Canelo/Feilding card. Chisora/Whyte card, Bellew/Haye, Joshua cards, Linares, Andrade, Broner cards.
She'll have guys like Joshua and McGregor visiting her changing rooms pre/post fight too.
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Takes too much strength and power to really be able to punch through boxing gloves. Women just cant cut it, ut mma the hands are lighter and they can use harder bones than hands to deal some real damage, plus submissions. Plus sexier attire.
You're not answering my question.
Best male boxers fighting the best male boxers, and have top female boxers on the undercard? (hence: "Like in UFC")
Not standalone PPV cards with the "biggest" female boxers headlining.
I'm talking about promoting the top female boxers by putting them on the undercard of big PPV cards headlined by men, like UFC did to promote their best female fighters at first.
claressa shields in her debut. i was at this fight. it wasn't on the hbo feed but it was on the international feed, which gets a lot of views and is called by bob sheridan.
women have been on plenty of undercads on premium cable and ppv, i have given you one example, i invite you to look into it on your own. just boxrec laila ali to start and go from there. christy martin was on don king undercards in las vegas and on TV. you just don't know what you're talking about. women's boxing has caught lightning in a bottle a handful of times and that is it. it just doesn't sell. people would rather gamble at the tables than pay to watch women fight.
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this is not on the hbo feed but it's the international feed and she's certainly being "promoted."
I can't watch women's boxing, it just doesn't do it for me.
I do like the women in MMA though, they put on a good show.
Who doesnt like woman rolling around on the ground.
layla ali fought joe frazier's daughter on ppv, christy martin was on ppv and showtime, it's been tried in several eras by several promoters. i just told you that :lol1:. they make very little on the top end compared to the men, and they make absolutely nothing on the bottom end. your time is better spent promoting men, particularly in a combat sport.
go do the research, what you've seen really dones't matter, does it?
You're not answering my question.
Best male boxers fighting the best male boxers, and have top female boxers on the undercard? (hence: "Like in UFC")
Not standalone PPV cards with the "biggest" female boxers headlining.
I'm talking about promoting the top female boxers by putting them on the undercard of big PPV cards headlined by men, like UFC did to promote their best female fighters at first.
On televised portion of a big PPV undercard, best fighting the best, like UFC does?
Never seen that.
layla ali fought joe frazier's daughter on ppv, christy martin was on ppv and showtime, it's been tried in several eras by several promoters. i just told you that :lol1:. they make very little on the top end compared to the men, and they make absolutely nothing on the bottom end. your time is better spent promoting men, particularly in a combat sport.
go do the research, what you've seen really dones't matter, does it?
this isn't true. don king, bob arum, goldenboy, even haymon have all tried their hand in women's boxing. it just doesn't sell. i
On televised portion of a big PPV undercard, best fighting the best, like UFC does?
Never seen that.
UFC fighters
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Your punk ass would use those as examples instead of the beautiful Laila Ali, Cecilia Breakhus, Hanna Gabriels, Mia St. John, etc. . .
the wnba's main problem is that the rim is 10 feet off the ground
Even if it wasn't, people still wouldn't watch because they're marketed terribly.
Make T? You do know they're drug tested right? I mean they're not hiding Jon Jones results I doubt they would hide the girls results.
Every girl that is fit doesn't have ****.
I said they take T not make it. in the NFL and MLB they are allowed to take T to bring their levels up to a 21 year old man. that was allowed so I do not see why they would bother testing for it. it amazes me that people think the testing is structured to catch people. if it was the industries would collapse. tests are done NOT to catch any one only supreme retards get caught. look at the cyborg holyfield goes from a skinny LH then CW to Mr Universe in 2 years. never got caught. tests results no different then a politician making promises in a speech
yea when they start taking male T their t its shrink
Make T? You do know they're drug tested right? I mean they're not hiding Jon Jones results I doubt they would hide the girls results.
Every girl that is fit doesn't have ****.
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yea when they start taking male T their t its shrink
Female MMA fighters get pushed by the UFC (heck, even Bellator). They have spots given to them on big cards, they get airtime, and get invested in.
Who's doing that for female boxers? No one. They're all managed by a Promoter with absolutely no clue how to make their client a star, and nowhere near the resource to do it even if they knew how.
Because boxing in general is dying
People have been saying this for nearly 30 years. Boxing is a national pastime in most countries, it is a simple working class sport infact? It is the last real working class sport. It is not elitist, and anybody with the courage to throw a punch in anger or self defense can do it 'The gentlemen's sport' It is not the sport which makes boxing it is he fighters. So it is not the sport which is dying, legends retire and leave voids 'And then all the people start crying? Oh boxing is dying, it is the same in most individual sports'...'This is what people inside of their minds psychologically need to understand and accept'
And even if boxing was dying, who cares? Why do people let the mainstream consumers of the world run their lives and influence their interests. If there is a boxing fight schedule with somebody who I am interested in? I will watch the fight. It is irrelevant on whether the mainstream is interested or not.
As human beings we have afew basic instincts, which are to eat, and to survive. And to survive we ether have to fight or perform some sort of athletic ability, at a fundamental level.
If there was some kind of war in the last days, which wiped out or dramatically change civilization as we know it 'And plunge this world into a post apocalyptic war-zone? Nobody is going to care about NBA Basketball, nobody is going to care about NFL, nobody is going to care about Soccer, Tennis or Golf.
All people will care about on a fundamental level is? How fast can you run, or outlast a threat, and can you fight? So taking this information into account, Boxing cannot fundamentally die. All these traditional Olympic sports, wrestling, rowing, track an field. They cannot die, because on a instinctual level, that is all that matters. Bouncing a ball, or kicking a ball about somewhere is not going to save you, in those end days.
In a post apocalyptic world, simple boxing would be the worlds number 1 sport. In order to make a living or survive, MMA or UFC is not quite a working class sport in my opinion. And it does not have the history or culture of boxing, this is a man's sport 'This is the gentleman's sport'.
It may fade, but it will always ALWAYS be there. 'It is man's sport and a fundamental instinct'.
Note: There is a erotic element to female success in MMA. I don't want to discredit those women to much, but I think part of there mainstream success is because of the erotic element.
Because of the depletion of real men. Male MMA fans are the type who attend slutwalks with "I'm a slut" text painted on their chest and they are subjugated by their feminist girlfriends at home. MMA is run by the feminist mafia.
It has nothing to do with being "progressive". Do you honestly think Dana White is some type of "progressive"? LMAO.
Dana White once said he'd never have WMMA in the UFC. Then he realized people he could actually make some money off Ronda and as always money talks, BS walks. They marketed her as an unstoppable beast and it worked until she was thrashed by Holm.
I don't think any business pushes equality for social reasons. It makes good business sense.
The UFC sees an untapped market. 50% of the population.
Often, that's what it means to be progressive. And, yes, I see Dana as progressive. He's done done amazing things with UFC. He certainly hasn't just maintained it.