I mean you got legends from PR and Cuba.. wtf happened to dominicans? i know they dominate baseball but i dont get how every dominican boxer sucks ass. i mean i cant think of one. MAYBE joan guzman but he failed to reach his potential being undisciplined.
Latin American boxing in a nutshell...
Mexico- World flagship boxing country along with the U.S. and Japan.
Puerto Rico- Great Latin providence that spits out great fighters once every 5 to 10 years
Cuba- Their pros suck, but they have a great amateur program.
Argentina- Spit out a great fighter once every 5 to 10 years, about equal to PR these days.
Nicaragua and Panama once in a generation spit out a great fighter
Dominican Republic does not exist in the boxing world. They like Baseball...and that's it, period.
Cuba and Puerto Rico have a long history and love of boxing so boxing is in their blood and they have good trainers. Young men there often want to become boxers. Dominicans have no such love or history of boxing. There is no reason every island around there should be great at boxing and it's not a great question.
I mean you got legends from PR and Cuba.. wtf happened to dominicans? i know they dominate baseball but i dont get how every dominican boxer sucks ass. i mean i cant think of one. MAYBE joan guzman but he failed to reach his potential being undisciplined.
Lets look carefully at this understanding. First off, what if Puerto Rico and Cuba did not exist? So...now we have a big cookie island half Haiti half the Dominican Republic. Then we have Mexico... and lets throw China and India into the mix...
Lets look at how many fighters make it to the professional level in all countries...
The Dominican Republic is typical, not below average. They may look atypical because: Puerto Rico and Cuba have very strong boxing programs. But compared by relative population, They are an average boxing talent. They look great compared to India!
We could have great boxers in DR but hate to say it, my peeps are undisciplined. Joan Guzman couldn't get away from Beer and Mangu and Javier Fortuna is going the same route. The thing about not having world class trainers, I wouldn't use it as a reason per se, we have some smart dudes over there and great physical trainers. My Physical Education teacher there trained what little olympians we had and he was great at his job. It's mostly indiscipline, too much partying over there.
I remember watching a video with Robert Garcia's son saying Felix Diaz was the laziest fighter they had by far. That it was super frustrating since he was talented but he didn't really want it. So you may have a point about the fighters being undisciplined.
I mean you got legends from PR and Cuba.. wtf happened to dominicans? i know they dominate baseball but i dont get how every dominican boxer sucks ass. i mean i cant think of one. MAYBE joan guzman but he failed to reach his potential being undisciplined.
Blue Dophlin where are you from?
We could have great boxers in DR but hate to say it, my peeps are undisciplined. Joan Guzman couldn't get away from Beer and Mangu and Javier Fortuna is going the same route. The thing about not having world class trainers, I wouldn't use it as a reason per se, we have some smart dudes over there and great physical trainers. My Physical Education teacher there trained what little olympians we had and he was great at his job. It's mostly indiscipline, too much partying over there.
D.R. is a baseball country, there is considerably more money in baseball even for a prospect than there is in boxing and D.R. has never really had the infrastructure to for much of an even amateur boxing program. A baseball player in D.R. can live a pretty good life off the sport even if they don't make it off the island. You had kids back in the 70's and 80s who learned how to play baseball using the caps from those five-gallon water bottles and hit them with tree branches. Them dude made something out of nothing. Give it twenty to thirty years and that'll change but as it stands right now you don't have any world class trainers in DR or any world class trainers being brought in to train these guys either.
Very true. They dont have the infrastructure or tradition right now. I hate to say it but they dont get the training needed that the other countries have. Amateur system is not developed and they dont have a tradition of developing really good fighters. Most of their sports money is spent on Baseball.
I mean you got legends from PR and Cuba.. wtf happened to dominicans? i know they dominate baseball but i dont get how every dominican boxer sucks ass. i mean i cant think of one. MAYBE joan guzman but he failed to reach his potential being undisciplined.
D.R. is a baseball country, there is considerably more money in baseball even for a prospect than there is in boxing and D.R. has never really had the infrastructure to for much of an even amateur boxing program. A baseball player in D.R. can live a pretty good life off the sport even if they don't make it off the island. You had kids back in the 70's and 80s who learned how to play baseball using the caps from those five-gallon water bottles and hit them with tree branches. Them dude made something out of nothing. Give it twenty to thirty years and that'll change but as it stands right now you don't have any world class trainers in DR or any world class trainers being brought in to train these guys either.