Is the WBSS in financial trouble?

Expenses like that have always come out of a fighters purse though...whenever you see the purse it’s always before the corner, manager, promoter, etc. get their chunks. Regardless, here’s hoping it’s just BS I think that's kinda the point here - as far as I can tell the basic pay for just entering the competition is pretty low so the fighters are taking a bit of a risk in going out in the first round... from the article I linked it sounds like maybe the WBSS reimburse expenses, on top of the basic pay. Not entirely clear, but that's what I took from it. Like you say though, let's just hope it's BS, the WBSS is one of the best things to happen to boxing for a while in my book. Should do that ish every other year in every division if it were up to me.

Hmmm. Good point. I suspect Martin's manager may be talking about this referenced in Coppingers article: Which I assume refers to out of pocket expenses such as training and travel etc (be hard to get guys to participate if they thought they might be in danger of losing money). But you're right in that we're not given a single name, quote or reference in the Coppinger article, nor have I heard anything elsewhere about any fighter not being paid their bonus as the article claims... in fact the whole tone of it is subtly negative while appearing to try to seem objective. All a bit weird. Expenses like that have always come out of a fighters purse though...whenever you see the purse it’s always before the corner, manager, promoter, etc. get their chunks. Regardless, here’s hoping it’s just BS

Wait, Ryan is the only one complaining about not getting a victory bonus? He lost... Hmmm. Good point. I suspect Martin's manager may be talking about this referenced in Coppingers article: The World Boxing Super Series contract requires participants to submit invoices for purses, an uncommon practice. The contract stipulates that fighters receive payment within five business days of invoice submission; in some cases, that promise has been met. Boxers are typically handed a paycheck the day of the fight. Which I assume refers to out of pocket expenses such as training and travel etc (be hard to get guys to participate if they thought they might be in danger of losing money). But you're right in that we're not given a single name, quote or reference in the Coppinger article (or indeed any evidence of any sort whatsoever), nor have I heard anything elsewhere about any fighter not being paid their bonus as the article claims... in fact the whole tone of it is subtly negative while appearing to try to seem objective. All a bit weird.

Wait, Ryan is the only one complaining about not getting a victory bonus? He lost...

"There's no smoke without fire"...

It's hard to believe that they could be strapped with a 3-year deal with DAZN. Those guys threw money around like Floyd at a strip club. https://doublegsports.com/world-boxing-super-series-and-dazn-agree-to-a-major-deal-to-promote-events-in-the-u-s/

That's a lot of good fights on tap. Would be a shame to see them go by the wayside.

Hopefully Showtime or ESPN can put on some of those fights if it is too much for DAZN to handle Nonito Donaire - Zolani Tete Naoya Inoue - Emmanuel Rodriguez Mairis Briedis - Krzysztof Glowacki Yunier Dorticos - Andrew Tabiti Regis Prograis - Kiryl Relikh Josh Taylor - Ivan Baranchyk

Is there a link to the tweet, video or article where Ryan talked about not being paid? I'd be curious to check that out. F#cked up & a bad look for the WBSS if thats legit regardless if they are having money trouble or not. I can try and dig it out if you like - might have been Martin's manager or something put up a tweet - I think it was one that Motorcity Cobra dug up... best damn newshound around, that dude. Ahh... here we go.... https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=802389 Also some speculation around here that maybe Ryan's drug test failure was contributory, but best I can tell the man should have been paid before the results of tests came through... who knows. Mike Coppingers name coming up again though. IDK - hard to tell. Maybe nothing but something doesn't quite sit right with the Coppinger article I referenced above and I edited my post to say so. Whatever. Absolutely it ain't a good look if guys are complaining about not being paid.

Idk what to make of that Coppinger tweet. Has anyone confirmed they haven't been paid? And from what I recall nerding out on all the WBSS news when they had their first pressers I seem to recall Sauerland or one of those company guys behind WBSS that they were bankrolled for 2 years from the get go. So based on that its surprising there are rumors like this. Although who really knows how valid the rumor is so it could just be bs if no one is saying they've not been paid yet. If some of the non-paid are among the quarterfinal losers I'd be surprised if all of them are keeping silent on it. Far as I've been able to tell Ryan Martin claims he still ain't been paid (that was a week or two ago) and I think that's how this news may have kicked off in early December, but it's unclear whether it effects anyone else in the tourney. I haven't heard specific details of any other fighter having said similar, but the few reports out seem to talk about Several fighters not being paid so it ain't clear. Bit more dubious cos not only does it not name any other fighters involved it also doesn't give the names of any sources.. It does mention Roberto Delmiglio's name (for no apparent reason since he ain't quoted or anything) next to the words 'per sources' as if it's suggesting he is the source, but then it doesn't actually say he is or quote him, or indeed anyone else, in the entire article... now I ain't sneaky fucker but that kinda slippery use of language tends to get me wondering. https://www.******.com/549581-world-boxing-super-series-in-jeopardy-of-cancellation-some-fighters-still-await-bonuses/ (ring tv) Turmoil has been brewing behind the scenes among the board at Comosa AG, the group banking the tourney. At the heart of the issue: some investors have funded more than their promised share; others haven’t met their due, per sources. Roberto Dalmiglio, a former group commercial director at media rights company MP & Silva, is head of management board at Comosa. Several fighters are still waiting for their victory bonuses — some of them six figures — to be paid out from their quarterfinal bouts, according to sources. The win bonuses are stipulated in the contract, an incentive for fighters to enter the tourney. The first round of Season 2 completed in October. Could be genuine, could be sour grapes on Martin's part or you could see it as attempt at sabotage by someone who has an interest in seeing the WBSS fail if you got that kinda slippery mind that thinks that way. Note though that the author is, once again, Coppinger.

The other day Ryan Martin’s manager was bugging Kalle for owed money on twitter.

I really hope these rumours aren’t true. Sauerland denied them, but we haven’t heard any new date announcements since. Huge shame if this went down the pan mid tourney. I’m interested in all the weight classes, but especially 140 and 118. Some brilliant matchups on the horizon. Yeah, this tournament format has been a good thing for boxing. You wouldn't want to see it go down or fail.

I really hope these rumours aren’t true. Sauerland denied them, but we haven’t heard any new date announcements since. Huge shame if this went down the pan mid tourney. I’m interested in all the weight classes, but especially 140 and 118. Some brilliant matchups on the horizon.

The finances went up Kalle's nose.

PBC's Coppinger said they were in financial trouble, then 24 hours later Kalle refuted it. Inoue vs Rodriguez is close to done https://3kingsboxing.com/inoue-speaks-next-fight/