from a technical standpoint he is head n shoulders above EVERYBODY at HW. there is no heavyweight that can "outbox" him or outsmart him. he posseses the greatest boxing IQ in the division. whoever he fights will simply focus on using size and a lucky punch to win. from a SKILLS standpoint his toughest challenge will be Tyson Fury. but in 2-3 years time Usyk will be undisputed champ.
Not going to happen
I don't see him having a style that will translate well up at heavyweight. He isn't that elusive, he gets hit quite a bit even against very basic fighters at CW he got tagged. If he has Holyfield level chin and toughness then he may do quite well but i don't bet my house on that
I just don't see it with him, winning the super series was good but i didn't see that tournament as being as full of quality as most others did, since then Bredis has been shown to be actually pretty overrated, getting schooled by a 5'7" featherfisted frenchman. And he was supposed to be this total beast which is where much of usyks reputation comes from.
I kind of hope he gets a Joshua or Wilder fight straight away because i want to see him get splattered and go back to cruiserweight rather than a couple of years of hype with him beating useless lumps like brezeale and chisora before getting swatted by one of the top heavyweights.
Usyk is the trendy pick right now but those seldom pan out.
You summarised my feelings well, I always questioned the quality of the super 6, the Bellew fight confirmed my suspicions, that was a good reference point. Usyk won well and made good adjustments, so a lot of the flaws are getting glossed over by his fans, maybe over emphasised by his detractors but the flaws are there.
Usyk is geared towards boxing, his stance/posture, style, movement is about fighting at distance and controlling the distance, he will struggle to implement that against the big 3 and maybe a few others too but I wish him well
Fury, wilder, and Joshua would kill him and so would Ortiz..
Id like to see him with secondtier guys like Miller, Whyte and Parker to get a better idea.
Im just not blown away by usyk.
The same Bredis that got absoloutley exposed by Mikaelian?
Well fair point, man. He looked horrible in that fight. I think he wasn't 100% fit or had a bad day or something. He's a much better fighter than that for sure. Let's see if he can come back to his former self, i mean the guy who fought Usyk.
For now though, it's hard to argue against Oleksander. He's such a class apart.
I can agree that he is the most skilled out of the elite bunch, but he lacks power in the heavyweight division, and his chin is still to be tested. However, if he can withstand a heavyweight punch he has a real chance of becoming a credible force.
History tells us that this is highly unlikely. Evander Holyfield, who is probably the greatest cruiser of all time (Usyk is probably 2nd right now imo)struggled with some of the bigger heavyweights. its just not that easy.
:lol1: To be fair bubba, I reckon this is our first interaction outside of Wilder/Joshua threads.
Lolx...... you might be correct about that.
In boxing, there are no permanent enemies nor friends.
Well, come on with it then. Don't y'all ever get tired of praising men for **** they have yet to do?
Smiles.... This is the first time am agreeing with you on this forum.
Let's wait until he has some couple of fights in the HW division before dreaming of being an undisputed.
That seems to be to far for him a achieve from my opinion.
Lolx.... This is embarrassing. Someone who have not even debuted in the division is already touted to wipe out the division.
Lolx.... What crack are you on bro?
No. His game is based on keeping his enemies far so he can outbox them. But in the heavyweights their reaches are longer and they’re taller. I don’t think he’ll do well against the top 3.
He might have got tagged a few at Cruiser, but he'll be faster than his opponents at Heavy.
I think he's going to be too small for the super heavyweights, he'll be giving up 30-40 pounds and a load of height and reach.
I wouldn't count him out completely but wouldn't back him to beat one of the current top 2.
It'll be very watchable seeing him try, though.
how many talented super heavies are there? Fury, Joshua, Wilder... Dychko is still a few years away. Ditto Hrgovic. And Usyk should be able to exploit Wilder & Joshua pretty easily.
He might have got tagged a few at Cruiser, but he'll be faster than his opponents at Heavy.
I think he's going to be too small for the super heavyweights, he'll be giving up 30-40 pounds and a load of height and reach.
I wouldn't count him out completely but wouldn't back him to beat one of the current top 2.
It'll be very watchable seeing him try, though.
A big Usyk fan here but not sure about all this. He should take baby steps first.
When I read he might fight Takam for his first fight at the division, I was totally against it, because Takam is a pretty good boxer and mover himself. I saw an upset written all over that. Tyson Fury would be a huge trouble too.
He should start with the ones with no skills like Price, Joshua, Wilder. That order would be nice.
Stay away from pure boxers for now.