Sky's PPV Numbers are a lie...

Haha, Robbie is a unique kinda mong. He gets beat down on the forum daily, he's developed some sort of immunity to it. He carries on arguing long after he's been hung, drawn and cheek-busted. He’s relentless, I’ll give him that. Seriously needs to develop some sort of social life that doesn’t involve his keyboard though

I am going to chime in here with the preface that I wish the OP had included a link to substantiate what he is forwarding. With that said, the BARB numbers are not ever an exact match for PPV buys, but they have proven to usually be in the ballpark. For example, BARB reported almost 1.5 million viewers the week of the AJ vs Parker fight while the number of buys reported range from 1.2 million to the same 1.5. And when you take Joshua's reported earnings from those fights and calculate in reverse, the money seems to line up with the PPV numbers as well. So, I am going to say BARB is a fair source to cite for numbers absent any further proof to the contrary.

It’s in the best interest of all promoters to inflate their numbers, you know what they can’t do doe is lie at the negotiating table. That’s where they all have to open their books to the real thing. So when they claim they sold 1m I bet you they probably sold 850k, when they claim they sold 750k they probably sold 650k.

If anyone is not aware, Eddie Hearn has linked a website called BARB.co.uk many times to show the amount of buys for the event. Actually BARB does not show the amount of buys and never have. What they do as a company is collect broadcasting data to show an estimated amount of viewers for TV. They estimate it using averages like how many people would be watching a PPV buy, which on average is definitely more than 1 surely? So when Hearn says he did 500k buys and uses BARB as his proof, that is actually just an estimated amount of people watching. So imagine on average across the country that 2 people are watching the same PPV buy, then you could essentially cut the buys he says in half to get a more accurate number. Actually their ratio is more like 2.5 viewers per TV. Sky never release an amount of buys and Hearn clouds the water by giving figures of estimated viewers and passes it off as buys. This is just fact How does any of this relate to you watching the sport of boxing? Or effect the way you watch the sport? Or effect you in any way. Do you only watch fighters that garnish a certain amount of PPV buy? Sky has way cheaper PPV's, which I like. That's how it effects the way I watch boxing

If anyone is not aware, Eddie Hearn has linked a website called BARB.co.uk many times to show the amount of buys for the event. Actually BARB does not show the amount of buys and never have. What they do as a company is collect broadcasting data to show an estimated amount of viewers for TV. They estimate it using averages like how many people would be watching a PPV buy, which on average is definitely more than 1 surely? So when Hearn says he did 500k buys and uses BARB as his proof, that is actually just an estimated amount of people watching. So imagine on average across the country that 2 people are watching the same PPV buy, then you could essentially cut the buys he says in half to get a more accurate number. Actually their ratio is more like 2.5 viewers per TV. Sky never release an amount of buys and Hearn clouds the water by giving figures of estimated viewers and passes it off as buys. This is just fact Your desperation is just too much. You sound like an American.

If anyone is not aware, Eddie Hearn has linked a website called BARB.co.uk many times to show the amount of buys for the event. Actually BARB does not show the amount of buys and never have. What they do as a company is collect broadcasting data to show an estimated amount of viewers for TV. They estimate it using averages like how many people would be watching a PPV buy, which on average is definitely more than 1 surely? So when Hearn says he did 500k buys and uses BARB as his proof, that is actually just an estimated amount of people watching. So imagine on average across the country that 2 people are watching the same PPV buy, then you could essentially cut the buys he says in half to get a more accurate number. Actually their ratio is more like 2.5 viewers per TV. Sky never release an amount of buys and Hearn clouds the water by giving figures of estimated viewers and passes it off as buys. This is just fact It's true, Sky Boxoffice do not reveal official figures, I don't think they ever have but that also does not mean BARB is incorrect of the numbers are low, just because you dislike certain fighters lol

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Oh you forgot about the time you called someone out and claimed to live round the corner from Stefy Bull's gym? (Which is in Doncaster, retard) Got him... 😂😂😂😂

If anyone is not aware, Eddie Hearn has linked a website called BARB.co.uk many times to show the amount of buys for the event. Actually BARB does not show the amount of buys and never have. What they do as a company is collect broadcasting data to show an estimated amount of viewers for TV. They estimate it using averages like how many people would be watching a PPV buy, which on average is definitely more than 1 surely? So when Hearn says he did 500k buys and uses BARB as his proof, that is actually just an estimated amount of people watching. So imagine on average across the country that 2 people are watching the same PPV buy, then you could essentially cut the buys he says in half to get a more accurate number. Actually their ratio is more like 2.5 viewers per TV. Sky never release an amount of buys and Hearn clouds the water by giving figures of estimated viewers and passes it off as buys. This is just fact BARB have no credibility. The Sky PPV are majorly inflated IMO. For example, as much as I hate to say it Mayweather-McGregor was by far a bigger deal an any other fight in the past 2 years, and according to BARB Haye-Bellew did more buys than May-Mac😂😂😂 I ain’t gonna get into it with Matchroom FC, who will vehemently defend BARB as it supports Hearn’s propaganda. You can choose to believe those numbers if you want...🤪

If what you claimed was true, then that would mean May-Pac and May-Mac only did 400k buys in the UK, since BARB is reporting 800-900k for those fights. But we know that May-Pac and May-Mac did close to 1m, which is close to the BARB numbers. If your theory was true, then that would mean the vast majority of UK fights in the last decade were flops, and the UK PPV industry would've collapsed. Yet the UK PPV industry is stronger than ever. Your theory is entirely speculation, with no evidence or sources to back it up. We don't know that because Sky don't release numbers. 1m PPV's in the UK is a lot. you're talking almost 2% of the population buying it, not just watching. Given that boxing is a niche sport in some ways, a lot of the population are kids, old etc. 1m PPV's is an incredible amount, even 500k is. So even if they reveal the real number of buys and not estimated viewers, they would still be impressive figures, all things considered..

If what you claimed was true, then that would mean May-Pac and May-Mac only did 400k buys in the UK, since BARB is reporting 800-900k for those fights. But we know that May-Pac and May-Mac did close to 1m, which is close to the BARB numbers. If your theory was true, then that would mean the vast majority of UK fights in the last decade were flops, and the UK PPV industry would've collapsed. Yet the UK PPV industry is stronger than ever. Your theory is entirely speculation, with no evidence or sources to back it up.

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Their numbers fall in line with PPV numbers we know. So no they aren't going with their own estimates. That much is obvious. Estimated viewers for the big fights would be far higher than what they're reporting. I went over this a while back https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19159876#post19159876 I think it must be buys, because the BARB numbers are always right in line with the numbers Hearn says he gets from Sky. He said Sky told him it sold over a million PPVs, but not as many as AJ vs Parker. Here's a quote from Eddie Hearn giving numbers. “Back in the day 250,000 pay per view buys used to be a solid touch, you know. Then, like lately, lets go back to Dillian Whyte against Joshua, again, off the top of my head, 420,000 buys. Anthony Joshua against Charles Martin – 500 and something thousand buys. Kell Brook against Gennady Golovkin – 400,000 buys. Anthony Joshua against Eric Molina – 450,000 buys. David Haye against Tony Bellew – 750,000 buys. Klitschko against Joshua – 1.2 million buys.” And these are the BARB weekly reach numbers from the link OP posted. Dillian Whyte vs Joshua: 660k Martin vs Joshua: 964k Golovkin vs Brook: 644k Eric Molina vs Joshua: 606k David haye vs Tony Bellew: 1,407k Joshua vs Klitschko: 1,532k Some of them are twice as big. Others like 50% bigger.

If that was true then the reported Joshua-Klitschko Barb numbers would be at least 2.5 mil because we know for a fact it did over 1 mil buys. They're 1.5 mil. Try again. Your thread failed. There's no fact it did over 1m buys. Sky don't disclose their PPV buys. It had about 700k buys in reality, based on viewing figures.

Lol look at all the Matchroom fanboys jumping to their defense. I'm just providing facts so that people don't get fooled by disinformation. The figures you're getting are estimated viewing figures based on 2.5:1 ratio in terms of watchers to buys.

If they are lies, why is it that Hearn is able to offer Wilder more than ten times Haymon and Espinoza can? That's my friend what you should be asking yourself. Wilder's average purse has been $1.3 mil before the Fury fight. Why can't he be offered more without importing UK fighters?

Speaking of PPV numbers, does BARB have the numbers for Wilder/Fury? Or that only goes for Sky PPVs?

They ALL lie about their numbers, Showtime admitted that they inflate numbers when Canelo jumped to HBO so they're all guilty

Sky officially announced their numbers around 3-4 months back. They haven’t released numbers of fights since then.

You know nothing salty man, you shouldn't assume. BTW giving out personal details will get you banned. Notice how you left out everything else because you have no common sense. You just have a butthurt agenda, i must have really hurt your little feelings. :lol1: What personal details have I given out? Repeating what you said yourself isn't "giving out personal details", dimwit. You have no common sense. I have been on here for over 14 years and I've never had any real beef with anyone ever. Only those with no common sense. You haven't hurt anybody's feelings, just don't expect to traipse about here spouting your Matchroom fanboy chit without getting your card pulled.