Is Tenshin legit in Kickboxing or a hypejob?

He is legit and very good but he fights guys his own weight not 20 pounds heavier.

sadly not a lot of east Asians dont make it in the UFC. Especially Japanese fighters they get exposed unlike the the rich amount of Japanese boxers in the lower weights. Just recently last few years their was a Asian being hyped in the ufc called the Korean superboy who every one thought had a chance to be champion got exposed. Still good fighter but no where championship or top 5 material. What about that Korean Zombie dude? One who got KOd by that crazy elbow with like one second left. I think he’s the only Asian I can think of.

Indeed. People talk about everyone fighting everyone in the ufc but forget that the ufc is only a tiny part of the global MMA scene... virtually impossible to rank people when the various MMA promotions may as well exist in different worlds from each other. In general though the point is that Tenshin is at best a big fish in a little pond. In boxing terms there's really no way to sell this as anything other than the most comical mismatch, but can you really blame anybody for taking the chance to earn $ millions in a few minutes? Not at all. And the boxers who say otherwise can only say it because they don't have that money sitting on the table for them to take. If they were presented with $9m for a 3 round exhibition, i bet their morals and love of the sport would take a back seat. De La Hoya was trying to angle the McGregor fight for Canelo, wasn't a farce until it was confirmed he was fighting Floyd. People are just hypocrites.

Indeed. People talk about everyone fighting everyone in the ufc but forget that the ufc is only a tiny part of the global MMA scene... virtually impossible to rank people when the various MMA promotions may as well exist in different worlds from each other. In general though the point is that Tenshin is at best a big fish in a little pond. In boxing terms there's really no way to sell this as anything other than the most comical mismatch, but can you really blame anybody for taking the chance to earn $ millions in a few minutes? sadly not a lot of east Asians dont make it in the UFC. Especially Japanese fighters they get exposed unlike the the rich amount of Japanese boxers in the lower weights. Just recently last few years their was a Asian being hyped in the ufc called the Korean superboy who every one thought had a chance to be champion got exposed. Still good fighter but no where championship or top 5 material.

Didnt watch the Fraud Event but Tenshin is horrible if you watch MMA/Kick boxing you would know that. He barely got past a guy that came into a kick boxing with a karate stance. If a guy came into a boxing/kick boxing match with his hands down Karate stance against me.... Well he'd get KO'd stiff in the first round.

I think it's very difficult to judge these things with all the different promotions. That other fight that happened before Floyd had the Bellator champ Darrion Caldwell against the Risin champ in the same division. People were saying Caldwell should beat him comfortably and he ended up getting beat. Then again, it's all largely irrelevant where they are ranked once they fight a very good boxer under boxing rules. Whether they're ranked 1 or 100 in MMA is barely going to make a difference Indeed. People talk about everyone fighting everyone in the ufc but forget that the ufc is only a tiny part of the global MMA scene... virtually impossible to rank people when the various MMA promotions may as well exist in different worlds from each other. In general though the point is that Tenshin is at best a big fish in a little pond. In boxing terms there's really no way to sell this as anything other than the most comical mismatch, but can you really blame anybody for taking the chance to earn $ millions in a few minutes?

I believe in MMA circles he was loosely rated in the lower end of the top 10 (#8 per wiki) at MMA Bantamweight (max 135Lbs). Always hard to tell because the different promotions in MMA very rarely cross over though. In boxing terms it's roughly equivalent to a Beltran or Mendy except younger and unproven... oh - and skilled in a different fighting art. I think it's very difficult to judge these things with all the different promotions. That other fight that happened before Floyd had the Bellator champ Darrion Caldwell against the Risin champ in the same division. People were saying Caldwell should beat him comfortably and he ended up getting beat. Then again, it's all largely irrelevant where they are ranked once they fight a very good boxer under boxing rules. Whether they're ranked 1 or 100 in MMA is barely going to make a difference

Serious question. I don't follow Kickboxing, but apparently - there's a lot of organisations and I don't thikn RIZIN is necessary the highest regarded, right? One win I heard that was mentioned that was supposedly so great was his win over Amnat Ruenroeng, but Amnat was shot even as a boxer back then, so what does it mean? I was just thinking - after all We all know there's a lot of hypejobs in boxing that You could maybe sell to general public, let's even take that Thai - Petch Sor Chitpattana, who just fought for WBC Title in Japan coming in with 48-0 record. I was wondering watching Tenshin, is He the same hypejob, even in his sport, like plenty of boxers with undefeated records? Or is He real stand-out in his sport and his own weight-class? I'd appriciate answers from people in the know. I believe in MMA circles he was loosely rated in the lower end of the top 10 (#8 per wiki) at MMA Bantamweight (max 135Lbs). Always hard to tell because the different promotions in MMA very rarely cross over though. In boxing terms it's roughly equivalent to a Beltran or Mendy except younger and unproven... oh - and skilled in a different fighting art.

Serious question. I don't follow Kickboxing, but apparently - there's a lot of organisations and I don't thikn RIZIN is necessary the highest regarded, right? One win I heard that was mentioned that was supposedly so great was his win over Amnat Ruenroeng, but Amnat was shot even as a boxer back then, so what does it mean? I was just thinking - after all We all know there's a lot of hypejobs in boxing that You could maybe sell to general public, let's even take that Thai - Petch Sor Chitpattana, who just fought for WBC Title in Japan coming in with 48-0 record. I was wondering watching Tenshin, is He the same hypejob, even in his sport, like plenty of boxers with undefeated records? Or is He real stand-out in his sport and his own weight-class? I'd appriciate answers from people in the know. hes legit.... but what do you expect when you take a kickboxer who fights at 126 lbs and put him in a BOXING match vs one of the best who fights at 147 lbs :dunno:

Hype job he's, been exposed!!!

He's probably better against little asain guys that weigh 120 lbs and when he can use his full arsenal of fighting skills. Just a guess on my part though cause I dont follow little feminine asain fighters with yellow hair .

He is known for flamboyant finishers, but hasn’t fought anyone of note. Well, He's still going to be known for that then :lol1:. Thanks guys.

Serious question. I don't follow Kickboxing, but apparently - there's a lot of organisations and I don't thikn RIZIN is necessary the highest regarded, right? One win I heard that was mentioned that was supposedly so great was his win over Amnat Ruenroeng, but Amnat was shot even as a boxer back then, so what does it mean? I was just thinking - after all We all know there's a lot of hypejobs in boxing that You could maybe sell to general public, let's even take that Thai - Petch Sor Chitpattana, who just fought for WBC Title in Japan coming in with 48-0 record. I was wondering watching Tenshin, is He the same hypejob, even in his sport, like plenty of boxers with undefeated records? Or is He real stand-out in his sport and his own weight-class? I'd appriciate answers from people in the know. He is known for flamboyant finishers, but hasn’t fought anyone of note.

Ive seen Naruto’s kickboxing matches and he seems legit. I believe he is the next kickboxing sensation in asia. I want to see hom against K1’s Segawa.