How far back do you really care about the sport? Do you like to watch old films and read about old fighters or are you the type that thinks boxing started when you started watching?
There's a tendency in sports to go over the top in discrediting those that are popular among the masses.
Basically, I think they overrate and we respond by underrating Tyson.
He was amazing up to about the age of 23. Could and probably should have been the best ever by a huge margin. That puts him in a fairly unique position.
If you don't worry about where he ranks in the all time list, you can just appreciate how lucky we were to see him fight. And I don't know that I'd rank anyone in my lifetime higher in that regard.
You’re basing that on his physical abilties, and not his character. Lots of guys are psychically gifted, few are mentally tough. Tyson proved over, and over, and over again he was weak mentally. Not emotionally tough. Everytime an opponent took his best shot and hit him back he folded or quit. Tough is Ali getting up from that left hook Frazier floored him with. Tough is Evander Holyfield, tough is Lennox Lewis... mike was as physically awesome as you could be, and as mentally weak as you could be at the same time. Once a quitter, always a quitter and tyson quit about 5 different times.
Again, I’m a huge fan, He’s why I started boxing. But when I learned the sport I could see clear as day he was mentally weak, any unbiased person could.
What does being black have to do with this? I’m just saying the “average” Mayweather fan. Most I’ve encountered are as I described. They like him more than the sport.
Pure BS. You do this thing where you stereotype and exaggerate everything “mayweather” fans do yet say nothing when it’s other fans.
Why is it if a mayweather fan thinks he is the best that you criticize them with coded language and say they lack historical knowledge but if a Loma fan says same you just simply disagree?
When a ggg fan over rates him you make no stereotypical assertions or criticize lack of knowledge. Only certain fans.
Pathetic.
My first live match I went to was 1965 to watch my ol man fight a 6 rounder, it was at Festival Hall Melbourne Australia, the very same venue the year before dad took me to see the Beatles, two very special memories I will never forget, was hooked on booking ever since..
My dad was always a fan of boxing, and he had a pile of ancient Ring magazines. He'd tell me about his favourites and we'd watch some classic footage.
So I guess I was exposed to a little bit of the history, but never really took an active interest. We'd go to the pub to watch Aussie fighters like Jeff Fenech and Lester Ellis etc. So I was absorbing knowledge about it then.
It wasn't really until the early 2000s that I got into watching it really regularly. I've seen hundreds of fights, but I wouldn't consider myself any kind of historian - and even from the time in the early 2000s when my interest grew and grew, there are still a lot of people whose depth of knowledge is encyclopedic compared to mine.
I would say late 70's with the winding down of ali's career and the birth of the great welterweights got me hooked and up untill this day i still get up at 4am to watch a big fight.
Would scoot back in history and watch the legends like louis and robinson etc but it never held my attention much if i am being honest.
So 70's till present day
I witnessed "the original" boxing match way back then, and I've been a fan ever since.
"Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul to waste"
Hope you guessed my name .......:)
This is an outright lie. You’ve encountered maybe one person like this and decided to stereotype the whole fanbase because you think most of his fanbase is black.
What does being black have to do with this? I’m just saying the “average” Mayweather fan. Most I’ve encountered are as I described. They like him more than the sport.
I think they are the worst fan base in the sport. The typical Mayweather fan hates the sport, has no respect for the history and barely knows any of it. They are the "boxing started when Floyd started" brigade. They go on about "resume resume resume", yet there's only two great fighters he fought - Pacquaio who was washed up and Marquez who was far too small. Their fans think Pacquaio sucked so that leaves only Marquez and I'm a huge Marquez fan and realize Pacquaio's greater so zero great fighters defeated for Floyd yet they'll just dismiss a fighter they've never seen or even heard of because it's out of their scope of interest and they only watch boxing for Floyd and now Canelo because they are desperate to elevate him.
This is an outright lie. You’ve encountered maybe one person like this and decided to stereotype the whole fanbase because you think most of his fanbase is black.
Not remotely furious I find it funny you’re trying to appear like you watch boxing when you’re just a fanboy.
I’ve seen more fights from the 40s than you’ve seen in your life LOL. You thought Napoles thought in the 40s lolololol
Stick to watching Mayweather-Pacquaio and Mayweather-Canelo and let the boxing fans talk about boxing.
Lololololol Canelo would KO nipples and Floyd would school nipples with ease
You are FURIOUS. Pretending to watch old fights from the 40's and name dropping them consistently doesn't make you special. It just makes you a hipster weirdo
One fraud coming to the rescue for another fraud :rofl: :rofl:
Not remotely furious I find it funny you’re trying to appear like you watch boxing when you’re just a fanboy.
I’ve seen more fights from the 40s than you’ve seen in your life LOL. You thought Napoles thought in the 40s lolololol
Stick to watching Mayweather-Pacquaio and Mayweather-Canelo and let the boxing fans talk about boxing.
He’s vastly superior to you in that he’s a fan of the sport with knowledge. You are a poser who’s really just a Mayweather fan.
You’ve never even seen Casamayor fight and you’ve seen one Corrales fight. You jut boxrec those guys and tries to pose as a real boxing fan. You watch Mayweather and Pacquaio because of Floyd and Canelo because of Floyd. You’ve never once posted proving any understanding about the sport beyond “his fans said this”, “this guy sucks because he’s foreign”. Think about that.
You’re not fooling anyone hence your red K.
You are FURIOUS. Pretending to watch old fights from the 40's and name dropping them consistently doesn't make you special. It just makes you a hipster weirdo
One fraud coming to the rescue for another fraud :rofl: :rofl:
You try to act superior but then say dumbass comments and youre not trolling either. For example, you said Jacobs already has a conparable resume to Casamayor and Corrales.
LMAO youre damn right I'm laughing at you. Fraud!!! :lol1: :rofl: :lol1:
He’s vastly superior to you in that he’s a fan of the sport with knowledge. You are a poser who’s really just a Mayweather fan.
You’ve never even seen Casamayor fight and you’ve seen one Corrales fight. You jut boxrec those guys and tries to pose as a real boxing fan. You watch Mayweather and Pacquaio because of Floyd and Canelo because of Floyd. You’ve never once posted proving any understanding about the sport beyond “his fans said this”, “this guy sucks because he’s foreign”. Think about that.
You’re not fooling anyone hence your red K.
If folks go back far enough they'll realize at one point boxing champions were among the top three most popular people in this country. Hell in many cases people kept a picture at their business of whoever was the heavyweight champion at the time. Boxing has had a fascinating roller coaster ride of sagas, scandals, politics, and fanfare. Hell the King of England was a massive fan at one point. There also a bevy of SRR stories any real fan would enjoy. A lot of unsung heroes too from the late 1800'S and into the early 1920's.
I feel like if someone acknowledges how good the fighters from the 20-50s were they know about boxing. But unfortunately some ppl think mayweather is the greatest of all time. Which is funny.
I think they are the worst fan base in the sport. The typical Mayweather fan hates the sport, has no respect for the history and barely knows any of it. They are the "boxing started when Floyd started" brigade. They go on about "resume resume resume", yet there's only two great fighters he fought - Pacquaio who was washed up and Marquez who was far too small. Their fans think Pacquaio sucked so that leaves only Marquez and I'm a huge Marquez fan and realize Pacquaio's greater so zero great fighters defeated for Floyd yet they'll just dismiss a fighter they've never seen or even heard of because it's out of their scope of interest and they only watch boxing for Floyd and now Canelo because they are desperate to elevate him.
Haha. You can always tell it's a McDonald's post. There are going to be lmao's and lol's and rofl emojis and lol1 emjois along with didn't you says and sarcastic comments. The impression being that you're laughing at us. Always laughing. Laughing, laughing, laughing. :lol1: Isn't everything so ****in' funny?
And it took you all of five minutes to see this when I didn't tag you.
You try to act superior but then say dumbass comments and youre not trolling either. For example, you said Jacobs already has a conparable resume to Casamayor and Corrales.
LMAO youre damn right I'm laughing at you. Fraud!!! :lol1: :rofl: :lol1:
:lol1: :lol1:
You can't expect much out of that guy.
Didn't you say that Jacobs current resume already puts him on the level of casamayor and Corrales? Lmao
You and the OP are posers to the highest degree :rofl:
I personally enjoy reading about the early 20th century the most. 1900-1930 would probably be my favorite era to read, whereas my favorite era to re-watch would be more like 1940s-early 1970s.
It's disappointing how many fans care so little about anything that happened before Ali. This sport has the greatest history and probably the most documented. I try to keep a pace up of between 20-30 books a year.
im a martial artist and I consider boxing to be a martial art
:lol1: :lol1:
You can't expect much out of that guy.
Youre the same guy who said Jacobs resume at this point puts him on the level of Cawsamayor and Corrales.
:rofl: you and the op are posers to the highest degree
7y ago
How far back does your interest in boxing history go? | BoxingScene Community