DAZN Numbers for Canelo/Fielding "Shockingly Low"

Over 1 million paid 75 bucks to watch canelo fight over 5 million downloaded this app because of canelo. You want to tell me well most might not subscribe after the trial month ok. But 5 million didn't download something that clearly was advertised as first month free then said i did all this to watch canelo but I'm not putting in my credit card because I'm afraid I might get a 9.99 fee when everyone has been used to paying 75 bucks to watch canelo every fight for years now? Stop it whatever amount you think did that is low. If you went out your way to download DAZN you already aware it's subscription where first month is free. Stop trying to pretend a dude nobody in the boxing community has ever heard of knows how many views DAZN got on Saturday. A PPV insider for WWE events knows what a non ppv subscription based streaming boxing event did and offers no numbers or sources to back it up? RIIIIGHT LMAO Sorry but 5 million people didn't download DAZN. DAZN somehow was downloaded automatically on people's Amazon accounts. There's a bunch of people on DAZN s Amazon reviews complaining about the app being downloaded to their account and receiving a receipt of the download without them knowing. I checked my Firestick, I had never downloaded DAZN on it and guess what, somehow that app is downloaded to my Firestick. Probably happened on other devices as well. DAZN probably paid to have the app be downloaded to devices.

You do NOT need 3.3 million paid subscribers. You are just looking at one month, but it is more important you keep subscribers that continue to pay monthly. And you are not taking into consideration the live gate plus the international revenue which DAZN has rights to for Canelo's fights. But even then it is unlikely they will be able to break even with this deal, especially early on. That is however not their goal, they are fine losing money on this deal to benefit them in the long run.

Most are silent. Which is an even worse sign for DAZN. Most boxing writers despise Haymon/PBC and were hoping Hearn and DAZN would destroy them.. LOL whoops.. Not even Coppinger, bet this Meltzer guy was his source for the 15k for Joshua/Povetkin, that he retracted. Suppose journalists dont view him as a reliable source

Did they raise the price after they signed Canelo? In Germany? No it has always been 10€. (actually 9.99€)

That is a drop in the bucket. America is where they're focused. Canelo is big in AMERICA! Ya'll keep bringing up these other countries like it's a big deal. It's not. It has to work in AMERICA in order to be successful. They're focused on AMERICA Sure. But you were doing calculus on the finances of canelos purse and I commented on your math on that particular case and not on the overall necessary penetration of the US market. If I pay 10 euro because of Dazns boxing offering, then I pay 10 euro (more than it costs in the US) towards Dazn getting money back that they spend on canelon purses. Of course it's not healthy for business if they can't get any paying subscribers in the US. Businesses have to grow, the US is a big market and it's a big failure if it doesn't work out.

This is what I keep saying. When we get Canelo vs GGG/Jacobs/Charlo for $10 that's when I'll be a believer. The highest non-PPV rating Canelo got on HBO was 2.2 million. DAZN needs 3.3 million PAID subs to cover Canelo's purse. The numbers aren't adding up. One thing missing in your equation are worldwide subscribers. Dazn offers services in Germany, Japan italy, austria and Canada as far as I know. Granted the numbers for Germany for example can't be that high because of the time differences, but every subscription that was motivated by the canelo fight should also be taken into account.

So no boxing journalist run with this then? Surely its big news. Most are silent. Which is an even worse sign for DAZN. Most boxing writers despise Haymon/PBC and were hoping Hearn and DAZN would destroy them.. LOL whoops..

This Meltzer guy is stating the obvious! Of course the paying subscribers are shockingly low, with 5 million downloads before the Canelo fight and all were probabl taking advantage of the free month to watch Canelo. The subscriber number will likely rise over the next few months but will obviously depend on the quality of schedule. The tweet says viewers and not paying viewers, so what u are saying doesn't make much sense. If 5 mio downloaded the app and use it to watch the fight, the viewership would be 5 mio and pretty high. Paying subscribers is not a factor right now when Dazn itself offers a 1 month trial. It's for people to test it out and hopefully retain the service,. If they attracted 5 mio people to test out the app that would be a success.

So no boxing journalist run with this then? Surely its big news.

DAZN should force Canelo to learn English, he could easily be a crossover star. Make some appearances on some US talk shows speaking English and all the casuals will jump all over him. He's a good looking whiteboy who can easily deliver the highlight KOs fighting bums. Yeah the political climate right now in the US is very anti-Mexican because of the Trump administration, but I'm sure most of these rednecks are only against the browner Mexicans.

If the numbers are low then Canelo with his 375 million dollar contract is going to face some real competition. It is not going to be easy ride for Canelo and he is gonna have to earn that money

Well that's why some people run the risk. I know that most "proper" established bars in the UK won't run that risk. Too much inspection going on these days. The fines are huge, here anyway. One guy in the UK got an £85,000 fine just for streaming his PPV purchase of a Joshua fight so his friends could watch it on Facebook live. https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/07/boxing-fan-handed-85000-sky-bill-friend-streamed-anthony-joshua-fight-facebook-7210438/ So lord knows what the fine for a bar would be for illegal streams or whatever. Yeah they are definitely on the lookout in the US as well. Especially for the big $ events. The next step is shutting down illegal streams online which is going to be a focus in the future for sure..

Sure, but who knows how much ability ISM has to police and enforce vs rogue commercial establishments.. Well that's why some people run the risk. I know that most "proper" established bars in the UK won't run that risk. Too much inspection going on these days. The fines are huge, here anyway. One guy in the UK got an £85,000 fine just for streaming his PPV purchase of a Joshua fight so his friends could watch it on Facebook live. https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/07/boxing-fan-handed-85000-sky-bill-friend-streamed-anthony-joshua-fight-facebook-7210438/ So lord knows what the fine for a bar would be for illegal streams or whatever.

Well, there will be public licensing laws that could get them sued. Plenty of bars show sports "illegally" i.e projections from a stream or whatever but they will get a huge fine if they get caught. If you read the small print of your contract from a PPV or your cable package or whatever, it'll state that it's not to be used for public events or in public places that is deemed for making profit Plenty do it and run the risk, most probably get away with it. Sure, but who knows how much ability ISM has to police and enforce vs rogue commercial establishments..

In the US, bars pay a certain amount per person allowed at maximum firecode capacity. For example MayPac was like $30 per firecode capacity. So if a bar can hold 3000 people under firecode it can be pretty expensive. DAZN has a partner Integrated Sports Media that is going to sell their bar packages. http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/dazn-ism-commercial-streaming-bar-restaurant-casino-rights But what's to stop a bar from simply streaming it off their one DAZN app, I have no idea.. Well, there will be public licensing laws that could get them sued. Plenty of bars show sports "illegally" i.e projections from a stream or whatever but they will get a huge fine if they get caught. If you read the small print of your contract from a PPV or your cable package or whatever, it'll state that it's not to be used for public events or in public places that is deemed for making profit Plenty do it and run the risk, most probably get away with it.

people don't really understand how show business works Netflix produces a lot of its own programming and original movies narcos=id love to see the budget on that....not the most extravagant show...but I bet its not cheap they also just did a new crime thriller with ben Affleck and a pretty all star cast which I'm sure wasn't cheap...it isn't out yet big budget movies are usually backed by investors.... That's true, but in the case of Netflix, they have over 100 million subscribers, so they're getting a return on investment. It took them many years to reach that however. I agree their growing debt is a problem especially with rising interest rates though.

Sky do that in the UK. If you own a bar and want to show a Sky PPV, it's not just the standard PPV cost. Maybe it's the same in USA too, i guess so. The cost is well into the hundreds just for a PPV event and a yearly Sky Sports subscription costs around £15,000 a year for a bar. I'd imagine DAZN will do the same in USA if they pick up enough sports for a bar to pick up their service. In the US, bars pay a certain amount per person allowed at maximum firecode capacity. For example MayPac was like $30 per firecode capacity. So if a bar can hold 3000 people under firecode it can be pretty expensive. DAZN has a partner Integrated Sports Media that is going to sell their bar packages. http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/dazn-ism-commercial-streaming-bar-restaurant-casino-rights But what's to stop a bar from simply streaming it off their one DAZN app, I have no idea..

or they charge the bars a ****load for the Canelo fights. Sky do that in the UK. If you own a bar and want to show a Sky PPV, it's not just the standard PPV cost. Maybe it's the same in USA too, i guess so. The cost is well into the hundreds just for a PPV event and a yearly Sky Sports subscription costs around £15,000 a year for a bar. I'd imagine DAZN will do the same in USA if they pick up enough sports for a bar to pick up their service.

They should take a page out of the WWE. They have their PPVs on their WWE Network for the monthly $9.99 subscription but they also allow you to buy the PPV from your cable/satellite distributor. I think this would definitely work better for those over the age of 50 that just don't know how to use DAZN yet. I mean let's be real, there are those in their 20s that are just learning how to watch DAZN on their television. yup thats the best thing they do.... and since they have canelo on their side they can make the cinco de mayo fights like the wrestlemania of boxing..... imo if they do that they can garner more interest which would help in the long run

I bet they will introduce a "Premium" service, which will only include things like Canelo fights. That's how they will get around going back on their word about not having PPV's or they charge the bars a ****load for the Canelo fights.