Eddie Hearn "Are We Running Or Begging Deontay Wilder?"

Thank you for your opinion. Maybe that's why HBO went out of business. Regardless, Klitschko vs Wilder as a voluntary defense on HBO in 2013 or 2014 would have made absolutely no business sense for anybody involved. Not for Klitschko, not for Wilder, not for HBO. Fights don't usually happen when nobody benefits from them. More importantly, and often forgotten: Wlad didn’t do voluntaries.

He was wanting to get the fight signed for April before Wilder-Fury fought. Stop talking bollocks. No, he didn't. He did what he does these days, manage and deceive the public. Look, i was a huge AJ fan, i spent years going. Any time now.. Just you wait and see.. AJ is going to whupp Fury and Wilder, you just wait and watch.. After this one, no doubt about that.. Then one interview i saw Wilder's name brought up, and the fear in AJ's eyes was unquestionable. He does.. not.. want.. it. Wilder ducked real competition for years. Namely, Wladimir Klitschko. At least AJ had the balls to fight Wladimir, as well as top 10 heavyweights, regularly. Wilder fought top 10 heavyweights regularly as well once he became champion. Yes, he had a long learning process in the pro ranks due to his short amateur career. Longer than Joshua, despite a similar lack of an amateur career outside of the Olympics. Then again, a big part of that is that AJ had better backing, by fans and Hear alike.. Either way, there is no such thing as a young prospect ducking opponents. They have every right to take the time to build experience. If they don't, they won't make it in the sport. It's not like MMA where losses get brushed aside, you lose, you suck. Wilder learned to fight as a pro, like so many before him. Once champion, he did what champions do and fight the best. To the best of his ability. Saying he ducked Wlad isn't true, he wanted that fight badly. Wlad is the one who wanted no parts of someone as tall, fast, aggressive and unorthodox as Wilder. Possibly! In full honesty there were other fights that made as much sense as Wilder, like Joshua and Fury. Wilder wasn't a much make fight for Wlad, just one of the options. The same can't be said of Mr. Duck, Anthony Joshua.

Thank you for your opinion. Maybe that's why HBO went out of business. Regardless, Klitschko vs Wilder as a voluntary defense on HBO in 2013 or 2014 would have made absolutely no business sense for anybody involved. Not for Klitschko, not for Wilder, not for HBO. Fights don't usually happen when nobody benefits from them. And thank you for yours.

It would have meant an awful lot more than a Jennings fight. Jennings didn't even have one redeeming quality. Thank you for your opinion. Maybe that's why HBO went out of business. Regardless, Klitschko vs Wilder as a voluntary defense on HBO in 2013 or 2014 would have made absolutely no business sense for anybody involved. Not for Klitschko, not for Wilder, not for HBO. Fights don't usually happen when nobody benefits from them.

HBO was invested in Jennings and that was a fight they were building. To HBO's viewers, Klitschko vs Wilder would have meant absolutely nothing before Wilder got his belt. It would have meant an awful lot more than a Jennings fight. Jennings didn't even have one redeeming quality. At least Wilder was a trash talker with power.

Yeah, Wilder would have been a hard sell wouldn't he. He's clearly not on the same level as some Klitschko opponents like Jennings. Americans would never buy tickets the way they did for that fight. HBO was invested in Jennings and that was a fight they were building. To HBO's viewers, Klitschko vs Wilder would have meant absolutely nothing before Wilder got his belt.

Haymon is only able to operate on a handshake because he keeps his word. What reason would Wlad have had to fight him? There was no interest in the fight. Nobody knew who Wilder was. In what scenario is HBO putting up big money for Wladimir to fight some random SHOBOX fighter?!? I'm sure Showtime would understand if it meant Wilder getting the Klitschko fight. Wilder was being talked about by quite a lot of Americans at that point. So yeah, the fight could have happened. Yeah, Wilder would have been a hard sell wouldn't he. He's clearly not on the same level as some Klitschko opponents like Jennings. Americans would never buy tickets the way they did for that fight.

So he is ducking Joshua then? Joshua said he'd sign tomorrow if offered 50 million. Wilder offered 50 million and Joshua refused to keep his promise. Joshua insisted on a flat fee of 15 million. Wilder caved and said yes as long as the fight was next. Joshua refused to fight him next. After being so blatantly ducked, and deciding to move on with his life, I don't think you can now accuse Wilder of ducking Joshua just because Wilder is pre-occupied with Fury. The US public wants to see that rematch. ASAP. Wilder has a chance to A-side a massive PPV that likely does over 500,000 buys. Why would he give up that chance to go fight in the UK in a fight that wouldn't be shown on PPV here? Doesn't make any sense. If Joshua really wants to be undisputed, he should let Wilder and Fury sort out their mess and then offer the winner of that rivalry a fair deal. Wilder has had 19 more fights and has half the points...and people critique Joshuas opposition pfft. Joshua is #1 because he deserves to be #1. He's beaten more top opponents than any other heavyweight out there. Joshua is a great fighter. All kudos to him. Fury has only 60 points less and he's only fought Pianetta and Sefiri in 3 years...somethings very wrong. Nothing wrong at all. Fury ended Klitschko's reign. Remember that. Joshua beat an old, rusty, inactive Klitschko coming off a loss and a long layoff with no tune ups. Fury is the one that dethroned Klitschko.

Wilder is #2 in boxrec. If he ducked real competition, and still reached #2, that means everyone else is ducking WAY more than he is ... So he is ducking Joshua then? Wilder has had 19 more fights and has half the points...and people critique Joshuas opposition pfft. Fury has only 60 points less and he's only fought Pianetta and Sefiri in 3 years...somethings very wrong. In all seriousness those ratings look fair to me...personally I would put Fury ahead of Wilder but I'm not a points based computer system and can understand context.

Wilder is #2 in boxrec. If he ducked real competition, and still reached #2, that means everyone else is ducking WAY more than he is ...

Wilder ducked real competition for years. Namely, Wladimir Klitschko. At least AJ had the balls to fight Wladimir, as well as top 10 heavyweights, regularly. lmao Wilder just fought the guy that schooled Wlad and did it 1st.

Wilder has never had a contract with Showtime. Haymon is only able to operate on a handshake because he keeps his word. He could have fought Wlad at any time. What reason would Wlad have had to fight him? There was no interest in the fight. Nobody knew who Wilder was. In what scenario is HBO putting up big money for Wladimir to fight some random SHOBOX fighter?!?

Can only have a voluntary against someone in the top 15. A voluntary would also have had to be on HBO and Wilder was a Showtime fighter. Finkel managed both and planned to match them up in 2016 when Wladimir's HBO contract expired. The only reason the fight didn't happen is because Wladimir was upset by Fury. Wilder has never had a contract with Showtime. He could have fought Wlad at any time. But as I said in another post to you. Wilder was on camera saying he'll wait for Wlad to age a bit more and has no plans to fight him until 2017. But the video has been taken down. I've searched high and low for it, but can't find it anywhere.

Yeah, because Wlad wouldn't be able to have a voluntary or anything. Can only have a voluntary against someone in the top 15. A voluntary would also have had to be on HBO and Wilder was a Showtime fighter. Finkel managed both and planned to match them up in 2016 when Wladimir's HBO contract expired. The only reason the fight didn't happen is because Wladimir was upset by Fury.

Wilder-Fury 2 is a far bigger fight than you seem to grasp, especially if it happens stateside and not at Old Trafford (which would still be pretty big too). The US PPV will go up significantly, the UK PPV will likely go up significantly as well, and MGM Resorts going into a bidding war with Staples Center and Barclays Center for the right to host the fight could push the site fee north of $10m. Split the pot 50/50 between Wilder and Fury, and they each likely see $20m on the rematch. Without waiting on Joshua's date, or waiting on Joshua's venue, or Joshua's sponsors, or only fighting on Joshua's "TV partners" around the world, or Joshua deciding if the rematch happens. And this is coming before Wilder launches to superstardom (a million PPV buys, @$65/$75, puts something like $35m into the pot, plus a likely $10m+ to host the heavyweight champion, plus the UK money; 500k homes on BT Sport Box Office, at £20, likely adds another $8m. Add the rest of the TV, and the other revenues and Wilder-TBA could eventually be a $60m+ event). Will laugh my ass off the first time you hear that Deontay Wilder just earned $30m for a fight that had nothing to do with Anthony Joshua, lol. Wilder will earn 20 Mill in the rematch? Wilder will launch to superstardom? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Thanks for that. How is it up there in fantasy land anyway? Is it warm there? You still didn't tell me whose alt i'm supposed to be.

Stop it with the eddie hearn articles. The guy is salty as fuk that AJ isnt getting the lime light and endlessly talking crap. Wilder-Fury are going to rematch. AJ is on the sideline, he missed his chance. Hearns can fuk himself.

The money the PPV made was pretty good, but the amount of viewers it had is tragic. No matter which way you want to cut it up. The PPV numbers just keep on going up and up as well as the money. This time next week it would have sold 3 Million PPV's and made 200 Million. Haha. Where are all the these new buyers supposed to be coming from? Casuals still won't give a **** and the rest will just stream again. It may do about 50,000 more buys but not a lot more than this. Wilder/Ortiz isn't coming close to selling 300,000 on PPV. Americans only bought it due to Fury hyping it up in the build up. With Ortiz it will all feel like a wet weekend at the seaside. You'll be disappointed if they try this nonsense. What would you like to bet? Wilder-Fury happened on PPV, Wilder-Fury 2 happens on PPV, and then we get Wilder-Ortiz 2 on PPV (with Joshua not wanting to unify, and Dominic Breazeale being the mandatory, Breazeale-Ortiz would have to happen at some point, either as the headlining fight on its own show or as chief support to Wilder-Fury 2). Two successful PPVs in to his run, with Ortiz still looking good in the interim, with the matchup still being a good competitive one, for Deontay Wilder's 10th title defense. What are you willing to bet that that fight won't do 250k on PPV (you said wouldn't even come close to 300k, so I've tried to be reasonable)?

Alt account???? Who is my alt account according to you? Wilder has a choice of 20 Mill or 35%. Which ever he thinks is the most. You quite clearly have the calculations done so agree that Wilder should take the 20 Mill. But watch him call it "Crackhead" money while making much less like the retard he clearly is. He isn't taking the fight. He never wanted it. Plus, you're forgetting the PPV money from Showtime or DAZN. That will add to it. Wilder-Fury 2 is a far bigger fight than you seem to grasp, especially if it happens stateside and not at Old Trafford (which would still be pretty big too). The US PPV will go up significantly, the UK PPV will likely go up significantly as well, and MGM Resorts going into a bidding war with Staples Center and Barclays Center for the right to host the fight could push the site fee north of $10m. Split the pot 50/50 between Wilder and Fury, and they each likely see $20m on the rematch. Without waiting on Joshua's date, or waiting on Joshua's venue, or Joshua's sponsors, or only fighting on Joshua's "TV partners" around the world, or Joshua deciding if the rematch happens. And this is coming before Wilder launches to superstardom (a million PPV buys, @$65/$75, puts something like $35m into the pot, plus a likely $10m+ to host the heavyweight champion, plus the UK money; 500k homes on BT Sport Box Office, at £20, likely adds another $8m. Add the rest of the TV, and the other revenues and Wilder-TBA could eventually be a $60m+ event). Will laugh my ass off the first time you hear that Deontay Wilder just earned $30m for a fight that had nothing to do with Anthony Joshua, lol.

I've never heard of any other fighter being accused of "ducking" a champion while that fighter was still a young contender moving up the ratings for the first time. You have to get into the top 15 to even be eligible for a title shot and you can't force the champion to fight you until you become the mandatory. Not to mention the fact that Klitschko would have no reason to want to fight Wilder while he was an unknown prospect. When was this fight supposed to occur exactly? For what reason? On what network? You're not making any sense. Yeah, because Wlad wouldn't be able to have a voluntary or anything. No, he'd need to be forced to face the beast that is Wilder only by mandatory where he would beat him like red headed step child just like he did in training camp. So scary. A young contender who had had 32 fights and was 30 years old. That's plenty of fights to have before fighting for a title. But we all know Wilder could have had 62 fights and we know he still wouldn't have fought Wlad. Only crazy people do who have an agenda and want to paint Wilder in a positive light because they're a homer or are paid to do so. Like you.

Wilder-Fury drew 320k PPV buys (plus the folks who bought the PPV directly from Showtime; would not shock me if the total US number ended up being near 375k), and Wilder-Fury 2, based on the good fight and things still being unsettled, is expected to sell significantly more PPVs than the first fight. Wilder-Ortiz was a good fight that drew well on Showtime, both fighters have continued on fighting will, and the rematch (after the two Fury PPVs) is still a viable tough and even fight. Ortiz not speaking English will hurt the promotional opportunities, but the fight likely sells 300k buys anyway. The fact that you think that Deontay Wilder's 10th heavyweight title defense, in a rematch of a 50/50 defense that he won by KO after being seriously hurt, is supposed to draw sub 100k buys is hilarious. The money the PPV made was pretty good, but the amount of viewers it had is tragic. No matter which way you want to cut it up. The PPV numbers just keep on going up and up as well as the money. This time next week it would have sold 3 Million PPV's and made 200 Million. Haha. Where are all the these new buyers supposed to be coming from? Casuals still won't give a **** and the rest will just stream again. It may do about 50,000 more buys but not a lot more than this. Wilder/Ortiz isn't coming close to selling 300,000 on PPV. Americans only bought it due to Fury hyping it up in the build up. With Ortiz it will all feel like a wet weekend at the seaside. You'll be disappointed if they try this nonsense.