Let’s have a real conversation about Fury and the lineal championship since everyone says Fury should be lineal champion. I have a few questions. How is Fury still the Lineal Champion after he was stripped by The Ring due to cheating and taking Nandrolone? Does that mean BJ Saunders is still the Middleweight Champion? His mental health and sobriety story is a great story and I wish him well on his journey but in the boxing world he is a cheater no matter how you spin it. He even tried to cheat the testing in the Wilder fight and you all think he should be given his Lineal Championship status back all because he had mental health issues? He is in the same category of cheating Heavyweights as Povetkin, Whyte, and Ortiz. He also said he would enroll in VADA in August but didn’t do so until 60days later. That’s suspicious just like the cheating bros I mean the Charlo bros. This is not a troll thread everything I’m stating is facts I want your honest opinion on the situation. Do you guys only care about drug testing when it’s a fighter you don’t like? I’ve asked this question a hundred times on here and still haven’t got an answer. I know Gabriel Montoya was worshipped on here for his work on PEDs in boxing so I’m curious as to how NSB will respond to his criticism. I thought he did enough to edge the win in the Wilder fight tbh but that’s not the issue here.
he was using the same drug BJS used to cut weight. and they come from the same gym. how convenient. Fury was dirty for this Wilder fight. period.
Fury and BJS have different trainers and they don't train at the same gym.
So for months now Fury was the beacon of light for Wilder fanatics, he was the brave one from the U.K. who was willing to step up, he was the “Warrior” etc Because they thought he was done. Now that he made their man look amateurish, they all of a sudden remembered that he was a guy that tested dirty for ban substance. The double standard isn’t just with those who are praising Fury now, it’s with all of you. You were willing to overlook all of that before he fought Wilder, you sang about how he is the real champ etc Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.
I’m not sure I’d call Gabriel Montoya a Wilder fanatic but ok
So for months now Fury was the beacon of light for Wilder fanatics, he was the brave one from the U.K. who was willing to step up, he was the “Warrior” etc Because they thought he was done. Now that he made their man look amateurish, they all of a sudden remembered that he was a guy that tested dirty for ban substance. The double standard isn’t just with those who are praising Fury now, it’s with all of you. You were willing to overlook all of that before he fought Wilder, you sang about how he is the real champ etc Sorry but you can’t have it both ways.
Montoya is just another bitter boxing fan. He's bad for the sport. What has he ever done to deserve the platform he has?
what was bitter about anything he said regarding the doped up Fury?
he was using the same drug BJS used to cut weight. and they come from the same gym. how convenient. Fury was dirty for this Wilder fight. period.
Tyson Fury is a legitimate god among men. Don't judge him by the same standards of regular boxers. He's so strong his body produces a large amount of steroids to pump directly into his system.
You being 400 pounds and not being able to lose it doesn't equate to an athlete especially a professional boxer not being able to do so.
he was using the same drug BJS used to cut weight. and they come from the same gym. how convenient. Fury was dirty for this Wilder fight. period.
nobody wants to ruin a great cinderella story. thats why the double standard. theres idiots in the UK even talking up a Fury biopic movie in the future. who wants to ruin that with these annoying facts. Fury lost almost 100lbs in a short span and was toned and fit. that's 100% cheating. no test needed for that. the corrupt WBC showed how greedy they were pretending they didn't know he wasn't enrolled to not ruin a great money bout. Fury is a dirty drugged up scumbag but hey.. mental health doe.
You being 400 pounds and not being able to lose it doesn't equate to an athlete especially a professional boxer not being able to do so.
nobody wants to ruin a great cinderella story. thats why the double standard. theres idiots in the UK even talking up a Fury biopic movie in the future. who wants to ruin that with these annoying facts. Fury lost almost 100lbs in a short span and was toned and fit. that's 100% cheating. no test needed for that. the corrupt WBC showed how greedy they were pretending they didn't know he wasn't enrolled to not ruin a great money bout. Fury is a dirty drugged up scumbag but hey.. mental health doe.
To ask questions like why should a cheater be acknowledged as a lineal champion? He failed the drug tests for the Klitschko fight wasn’t Wlad considered the lineal champion? Seems like a pretty fair question to ask??? I believe AJ was asking the same thing. Is he not qualified to ask that question either?
lineal champs are simply the man who beat the man..If Joshua wants that distinction he has to beat Fury..simple as that
Nandoralone is naturally produced by the body
Fury is hardly a typical man
His levels were elevated. It was a borderline fail. UKAD sat on that result for 6+ months because they didn't think they had a case.
Fury could have bankrupted them. But he chose boxing over bankrupting a testing agency who couldn't get their sht together.
Green k for staying on topic
Its common knowledge man you have been here to long to ask questions like this...Roy Jones had all the title belts and the Ring belt at 175 and was NEVER LINEAL..
To ask questions like why should a cheater be acknowledged as a lineal champion? He failed the drug tests for the Klitschko fight wasn’t Wlad considered the lineal champion? Seems like a pretty fair question to ask??? I believe AJ was asking the same thing. Is he not qualified to ask that question either?
Nandoralone is naturally produced by the body
Fury is hardly a typical man
His levels were elevated. It was a borderline fail. UKAD sat on that result for 6+ months because they didn't think they had a case. Well actually they didn't have a case!
He failed the test prior to beating Hammer. He passed 6+ subsequent tests and beat Wlad's ass during that time
UKAD then decided nearly a year later they'd go ahead with it after Fury failed on cocaine (post Wlad) & they were FORCED to take action.
Fury could have bankrupted them. But he chose boxing over bankrupting a testing agency who couldn't get their sht together.
Ok write the ring and tell them that. I’m just going off what they released
Its common knowledge man you have been here to long to ask questions like this...Roy Jones had all the title belts and the Ring belt at 175 and was NEVER LINEAL..
The funny thing is it was wilder fans who were hyping him as lineal to hype up what they assumed would be a routine win for wilder. Now they are crying saying hes a cheat etc
Is Gabriel Montoya a Wilder fan?
You’re the only person that stayed on topic lolThank you as I refused to be diverted or dissuaded from the real issue at hand and that's doping and juicing in boxing. We will never know but Fury is very suspect. From his crazy demeanor and antics outside of the ring to his high energy level inside of it and his ability to take a punch that would have nearly decapitated any clean drug free boxer in that ring. It's hard for any reasonable person to deduce that a fighter can get up from a punch like Wilder landed in that twelfth round, unless they were doping or on something.
You’re the only person that stayed on topic lolThank you as I refused to be diverted or dissuaded from the real issue at hand and that's doping and juicing in boxing. We will never know but Fury is very suspect. From his crazy demeanor and antics outside of the ring to his ability to take a punch that would have nearly decapitated any clean drug free boxer in that ring.
ring is just another belt..that has nothing to do with the lineal champ..Fury beat the lineal champ so he has to lose in the ring to lose his lineage
Ok write the ring and tell them that. I’m just going off what they released