We all wanted to see Mikey-Loma. We wanted to see Loma challenged and Mikey further cement his legacy in the weight class.
We wanted to see Spence take on another PBC Welter in preparation for an impending Crawford fight.
But now both of these pictures are screwed up because Mikey ran from a guy he didn't believe he could beat, toward a guy that no one else believes he can beat.
Is there even as much money in a Spence-Garcia fight as there is in a Loma-Garcia fight????
Why!!!!!???
And what will be next for Mikey if he gets floored by a big body shot early? Does he stay at 147 or does he make his way back down to 40 or 35.
Does he fight Loma with a loss in his psyche?
Just Why?!!!!!
Am I alone in believing that this Spence-Garcia fight is a horrible fight for us fight fans?
Height isn't the only factor, frame counts just as much. Mikey maxes out at 140 - and even there he looks a little soft. Spence is a big welter, wouldn't look out of place at 154
He wouldn’t look out of place at 160 either. He’s a huge welter. I think that if Mikey tries to put on added weight for 47 he’s gonna look like schit. He isn’t the fastest in the world now, add some weight and he’s gonna look bad at 47. But as Mikey has stated in the past... he sees some deficiency in Spence he can capitalize on. We must all be blind af!
He may as well be fighting Deontay Wilder then.
Even the one man who knows Mikey best, his big bro, mentor, and trainer Robert Garcia was not happy about the fight.
This fight reeks. Its almost absurd.
It will be a much better fight than most think. I'd be surprised if Spence lost, but with the skill level Mikey has he will make a fight out of it.
If Mikey gets the hell beat out of him it's his own fault, no one else's.
Hold on now, I know Haymon is hated by quite a few, but this is not his doing. This is 100% Mikey Garcia seeking out what he thinks is the toughest challenge out there for him, and called out Spence. Spence accepted.
He may as well be fighting Deontay Wilder then.
Even the one man who knows Mikey best, his big bro, mentor, and trainer Robert Garcia was not happy about the fight.
This fight reeks. Its almost absurd.
Its a ridiculous fight. Even Robert Garcia didn't seem to thrill about it.
Haymon doesn't GAF about Mikey and is using him to build Spence who is clearly the future of the WW div.
This is worse than Brook getting thrown in with GGG.
Hold on now, I know Haymon is hated by quite a few, but this is not his doing. This is 100% Mikey Garcia seeking out what he thinks is the toughest challenge out there for him, and called out Spence. Spence accepted.
The point is Duran started his career at 135, moving up to 147 to fight Leonard was 2 weight classes.
Mikey won his first title at featherweight, and has already moved up 2 weight classes.
In his foray into the 140lb division, he took on someone who is similar in size to him, who also came from a lower weight class in Broner.
135lb is as far as his power carries up it seems, and he is choosing to move up to 147 to face someone who started at 147lb, is huge for 147lb, and has openly discussed his difficulty even making the weight.
Not only that, but he is incredibly skilled. Its not like he is going up to fight a plodder like Margarito. Spence is the real thing.
The size difference is just too big, just like it was for Rigondeaux vs Lomachenko.
They will look 2 weight classes appart in the ring, and thats going to be something that Mikey can't change.
Spence will be 165lb+ in the ring, just like he has been many times before.
Garcia in his fight with Broner, claims to have weighed 146lb on fight night.
A guy that rehydrated 6lb at 140lb, vs a guy that rehydrates 18lbs at 147...
They wont be close enough in size to make it competitive. Mikey hits hard at 135lb, but he doesn't hit as hard at 135lb as he did at lower weights.
He will be a very very average puncher at 147lb, and he will be at a weight, height, reach, and age disadvantage.
I love Mikey Garcia, I would rate him higher than Spence p4p, but this isn't a p4p matchup, this is head to head, and spence is just too big.
Good points. :boxing:
I would rather have Mikey v Loma because it’s more meaningful to me. It’s the fight we would be getting in the era I started watching boxing. For those that can understand that I hope you agree.
That said The narrative from some people in this thread is utterly crazy. Mikey fighting Spence annoys a lot of people because it means Loma can’t make an excuse to not fight Crawford if he has no worthy opponent.
You think his recent competition is good then clown?
No but you weren't singing this tune when ggg was pulling guys up two weight classes and bowling over 2nd and 3rd rate contenders now were you? Just another example of what a racist scumbag you are
Honestly, as much as I would of liked to see that fight happen, I just think that Loma might be too small for Mikey right now.
Mikey probably should of stayed at 140, there's plenty of competition and new blood for him to fight there.
The size difference between Mikey and Spence is greater than the size difference between Mikey and Loma, and Loma and Rigondeaux.
Mikey has said that there was not a solid chance of a Loma fight, at least for now since he is fighting a Tank Davis leftover. Loma wanted a fight like this after his surgery before a big fight with someone like Mikey.
MG moving up to fight Spence may be a much better fight than most think. Duran did the same thing and beat SRL in 1980. Other examples too. I favor Spence in the fight, but it is far from an easy fight for him. He could/should possibly stop him late, but who knows.
Its a ridiculous fight. Even Robert Garcia didn't seem to thrill about it.
Haymon doesn't GAF about Mikey and is using him to build Spence who is clearly the future of the WW div.
This is worse than Brook getting thrown in with GGG.
Honestly, as much as I would of liked to see that fight happen, I just think that Loma might be too small for Mikey right now.
Mikey probably should of stayed at 140, there's plenty of competition and new blood for him to fight there.
Garcias corner will have that white towel ready to fly. this is Canelo/Khan and GGG/Brook. Erroll would seriously damage Mikey but they will surrender before it gets too ugly.
And your point is? Yes, MG moved up to 140 twice, so not the same as Duran. That is obvious. The point is MG has a decent chance at being competitive at welter. I'm not attempting to put MG in the same category as Duran, but still puzzled at what point you are trying to make.
Duran fought about his last 35-40 fights above 147.
The point is Duran started his career at 135, moving up to 147 to fight Leonard was 2 weight classes.
Mikey won his first title at featherweight, and has already moved up 2 weight classes.
In his foray into the 140lb division, he took on someone who is similar in size to him, who also came from a lower weight class in Broner.
135lb is as far as his power carries up it seems, and he is choosing to move up to 147 to face someone who started at 147lb, is huge for 147lb, and has openly discussed his difficulty even making the weight.
Not only that, but he is incredibly skilled. Its not like he is going up to fight a plodder like Margarito. Spence is the real thing.
The size difference is just too big, just like it was for Rigondeaux vs Lomachenko.
They will look 2 weight classes appart in the ring, and thats going to be something that Mikey can't change.
Spence will be 165lb+ in the ring, just like he has been many times before.
Garcia in his fight with Broner, claims to have weighed 146lb on fight night.
A guy that rehydrated 6lb at 140lb, vs a guy that rehydrates 18lbs at 147...
They wont be close enough in size to make it competitive. Mikey hits hard at 135lb, but he doesn't hit as hard at 135lb as he did at lower weights.
He will be a very very average puncher at 147lb, and he will be at a weight, height, reach, and age disadvantage.
I love Mikey Garcia, I would rate him higher than Spence p4p, but this isn't a p4p matchup, this is head to head, and spence is just too big.
Because it's a win-win situation for Mikey. Once Spence KO's him he'll still get credit for fighting the bigger man.
He want's no parts of Loma that much is obvious