He made a few more fans here among the hard core, he is known more than AJ for sure among casuals and general public, though not very popular yet, he'll have to start doing crazy stuff in the states to become more popular and then a rematch in vegas will be huge, and if that fight is close, then a trilogy, sending AJ to a distant 3rd place.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I noticed some time ago this kid who moved very nicely in the ring. The kid was positively a goof, he would do silly things in the ring but had an underlying authority about his habits... It was something that cannot be taught down the road, because it takes many many moons to unlearn bad habits. it also takes many moons to add tools to a toolbox at the highest level... Sure against that C level guy anything could work...but could you fight with it against the top guys?
But this kid had skills and could handle any range...His biggest opponent seemed himself, he was big and still ackward. So, for example, he hit himself trying to line up an uppercut... he got decked from guys coming up and over their heads, because he fought so tall... Little things.
I expected this kid to maybe even take an L, but to develop into a first class talent down the road. Then I remember seeing this same kid, a few fights in from Klitsko. Suddenly this kid didn't look so ackward anymore! It was like a Baby Grand Piano that someone had tuned up... The kid moved easily on his feet, used his weight like a veteran, and set up all his attacks with no telegraphs... At that point I knew Fury had come full circle.
Even against Cunningham, he looked confident and his herky jerky was becoming a skill of feinting. And thats what got me about Fury. heres a guy who was taught, under duress, to feint properly, to move at the right angles, to step away at the right directions, to use his head and shoulders at a nice clean 45 degree across the punching line, to create a false centerline, to use weight when appropriate. I had not seen a heavyweight with so many skills in years.
Ali was a natural who could do anything he wanted in the ring, his way...even when it cost him, like it did against a man who learned how to set up an opponent for a left hook when the man stepped straight back. Through the later generations we had guys who were great. Holmes had those skills... But when we get to the time when my kids were out, and a new generation of fans were watching Lennox Lewis fight guys like Razor Ruddock, you saw more natural talent and less guys who were trained to be fighters from an early age.
Guys like Lewis and Klitsko were ammy trained, with good punches and some seasoning from the great trainers, but they were not skilled in the way that Larry Holmes, for example, was skilled. There were less dimensions to their game, which did not detracht from their game necessarily....anymore than Foreman being a puncher made him less talented than Jimmy Young, who could do it all in the ring.
Fury is the first heavyweight in years, to showcase what a fighter, who has been trained in all the skill sets that fighters used to be trained in, looks like. Does it make him better? Well, to me it does! Doesn't mean it will be easy for him to beat AJ... but it means he has more resources that he can use to bring to bare. This makes me a fan because I like to see technical excellence in the game.
So...Fury being a Travellor, if her was chinese, American... Could not care less. I adore the kid! He has great whiskers, a great story to tell, and is supremely talented. He actually is a role model. I also don't think Fury wants to alienate anyone. I doubt he would think less of me for being an American lol. He is special and some say such talent only comes around every 3rd generation in the heavyweight division.
Good post mate. Fury is the truth.
Fury definitely is getting a lot of buzz for his performance in the ring and for his performance after the fight. That was a star making performance all around for him.
Is he more known than Joshua? That's an interesting question. It seems so, but I think the casuals just know "Wilder/Joshua" being a thing because they have heard about it so much that it would do huge numbers as well.
I predict Wilder/Fury rematch to do close to a million buys.
If the Joshua fight took place in Vegas, can I see it doing a million buys? Not sure, but possibly?
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I'm guessing he's now more well known than Joshua? He seems to be getting a lot of love over the pond.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I noticed some time ago this kid who moved very nicely in the ring. The kid was positively a goof, he would do silly things in the ring but had an underlying authority about his habits... It was something that cannot be taught down the road, because it takes many many moons to unlearn bad habits. it also takes many moons to add tools to a toolbox at the highest level... Sure against that C level guy anything could work...but could you fight with it against the top guys?
But this kid had skills and could handle any range...His biggest opponent seemed himself, he was big and still ackward. So, for example, he hit himself trying to line up an uppercut... he got decked from guys coming up and over their heads, because he fought so tall... Little things.
I expected this kid to maybe even take an L, but to develop into a first class talent down the road. Then I remember seeing this same kid, a few fights in from Klitsko. Suddenly this kid didn't look so ackward anymore! It was like a Baby Grand Piano that someone had tuned up... The kid moved easily on his feet, used his weight like a veteran, and set up all his attacks with no telegraphs... At that point I knew Fury had come full circle.
Even against Cunningham, he looked confident and his herky jerky was becoming a skill of feinting. And thats what got me about Fury. heres a guy who was taught, under duress, to feint properly, to move at the right angles, to step away at the right directions, to use his head and shoulders at a nice clean 45 degree across the punching line, to create a false centerline, to use weight when appropriate. I had not seen a heavyweight with so many skills in years.
Ali was a natural who could do anything he wanted in the ring, his way...even when it cost him, like it did against a man who learned how to set up an opponent for a left hook when the man stepped straight back. Through the later generations we had guys who were great. Holmes had those skills... But when we get to the time when my kids were out, and a new generation of fans were watching Lennox Lewis fight guys like Razor Ruddock, you saw more natural talent and less guys who were trained to be fighters from an early age.
Guys like Lewis and Klitsko were ammy trained, with good punches and some seasoning from the great trainers, but they were not skilled in the way that Larry Holmes, for example, was skilled. There were less dimensions to their game, which did not detracht from their game necessarily....anymore than Foreman being a puncher made him less talented than Jimmy Young, who could do it all in the ring.
Fury is the first heavyweight in years, to showcase what a fighter, who has been trained in all the skill sets that fighters used to be trained in, looks like. Does it make him better? Well, to me it does! Doesn't mean it will be easy for him to beat AJ... but it means he has more resources that he can use to bring to bare. This makes me a fan because I like to see technical excellence in the game.
So...Fury being a Travellor, if her was chinese, American... Could not care less. I adore the kid! He has great whiskers, a great story to tell, and is supremely talented. He actually is a role model. I also don't think Fury wants to alienate anyone. I doubt he would think less of me for being an American lol. He is special and some say such talent only comes around every 3rd generation in the heavyweight division.
He had a feature on HBO real sports a few years back and I had casual sports fans asking me about him at my job and local bars. His name is unique and his look is, in addition to his backstory and people like a good story.
My closest friends are mostly boxing fans or at the very least sports fans with a passing interest in boxing and they all know of him at least and some like him a lot because he's funny and has a larger than life personality. The party I watched it every single person was rooting for him and that was comprised of all Mexican people.
I think he's the most known and popular heavyweight now. I work with a lot of sports fans with a passing interest in boxing and his popularity went up with them. I think his heart and humility during the fight and after have warmed him to people and he's regained where he was when he was featured on HBO.
He's not a household name yet but he's got reasonable enough popularity for a boxer especially one who's not American or Latino.
Fury is everything a sports personality should be. In England however we seem to like really bland people with no personality like Joshua, or people that aren't really sportsman like rowers and such silly things. Quite sad really.
"He’s exactly what’s loved over here." Brit here. I agree with you. You love cringeworthy stuff like batman suits and famous people who spout complete bull**** - you elected one of those.
Too bad boxing is dying on it's arse stateside. A HW world title fight and the champ is your guy, and you have to give free tickets away to 'almost' fill up a little arena. AJ would destroy that cherrypicker Wilder in no time, and if he hurts Fury he will finish him - he's a better finisher than Wilder. Who would want to fight there nowdays anyway. Khan (Peterson), Kovalev (Ward 1) and now Fury have all been absolutely robbed there. It's a f%&*%$g disgrace.
So hateful over a fight that never even happened. Fury bailed out, and the 18,000 firemen went home sad after watching Wilder vs Breazele
By boxing fans or general america?
Personally I used to think Fury was an annoying twat and I was predicting an easy KO for wilder. I was not impressed by his two comeback fights. Then in the month or two before the fight, he grew on me and Im amused by his antics and I also could see him winning the fight as long as he was similar to his Wlad fight 3 years ago, realized wilder would have the same struggles fighting a guy with his head mostly out of range and wilder like wlad also doesnt go to the body much.
General public? Nobody knows who the fuk he is. nobody at work talked about his fight. Last time anyone at work talked about boxing was Floyd-McGreggor and thats because it was mega hyped and on the cover of ESPN ect.
100% this. I said during his hiatus that when he comes back, the American boxing world would embrace him. He’s exactly what’s loved over here. He’s way more popular than Joshua, and id argue he’s the most popular heavyweight in America right now, if not, he’s tied with wilder.
Also can’t help but notice there’s some UK fans in here answering the question...saying he’s not known...like they’d know.
"He’s exactly what’s loved over here." Brit here. I agree with you. You love cringeworthy stuff like batman suits and famous people who spout complete bull**** - you elected one of those.
Too bad boxing is dying on it's arse stateside. A HW world title fight and the champ is your guy, and you have to give free tickets away to 'almost' fill up a little arena. AJ would destroy that cherrypicker Wilder in no time, and if he hurts Fury he will finish him - he's a better finisher than Wilder. Who would want to fight there nowdays anyway. Khan (Peterson), Kovalev (Ward 1) and now Fury have all been absolutely robbed there. It's a f%&*%$g disgrace.
He will now. Many Americans are boxing fans waiting to happen. Fury's antics outside the ring and crazy humor will attract more fans than if he had a lot of power. I hope the rematch happens right away but if they wait, I hope he stays a bit so they can market him.
More people know him then Joshua.
I've felt for the longest time Fury would be more popular in the US than the UK so this isn't no surprise doe. Give him a couple more fights here & he'll be more popular/known than Wilder. Sh^t he's probably more popular than Wilder now, just not as known quite yet.
America loves outgoing personalities like Fury. Fury will probably be in jail this time next year in the UK for saying some sh^t on twitter thats been deemed illegal. He needs to bring his ass here quick.
100% this. I said during his hiatus that when he comes back, the American boxing world would embrace him. He’s exactly what’s loved over here. He’s way more popular than Joshua, and id argue he’s the most popular heavyweight in America right now, if not, he’s tied with wilder.
Also can’t help but notice there’s some UK fans in here answering the question...saying he’s not known...like they’d know.
Outside of hardcore boxing fans, he's unknown in the states. He used to troll mma fighters and that made him more known than Joshua ever was here but non boxing fans would have zero clue. Even Chavez Jr who hasn't done anything in a long time is far more known. It's not like the UK where all sports stars become celebrities.
He's just been made third favorite for BBC SPOTY. No way he'll win it because there's too many SJW's in the UK who will never get over some of his previous comments, but he's definitely won over most of the UK, or so it seems.
Fury was vilified in the UK for saying bad things about gays and women , he upset the Uk PC brigade big time .
Since his comeback people seem to have warmed to him , plus he's a bit more careful about airing his views nowadays.
I saw this on fox sport
Guy is definitely getting love from the American media and public he would crush some serious American puss if he goes on another party spree
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