There has been talk of the current era being poor and not entertaining. Is this opinion beginning to change? The last few years have seen some absolute crackers. Here’s a reminder of some; I’ve rated in my personal opinion of order of entertainment:
Joshua vs klitschko
Fury vs Wilder
Whyte vs Chisora
Chisora vs Takam
Wilder vs Ortiz
Whyte vs Parker
Haye vs Bellew
Bellew vs Haye2
Joshua vs Parker
Joshua vs Povetkin
Klitschko vs Fury
Let someone go back to after that klitschko fight and top10 was probably:
1 Tyson Fury (England) 25-0
2 Wladimir Klitschko (Ukraine) 64-4
3 Deontay Wilder (USA) 37-0
4 Alexander Povetkin (Russia) 30-1
5 Anthony Joshua (England) 17-0
6 Luis Ortiz (Cuba) 25-0-0-1
7 Bermane Stiverne (Haiti) 25-2-1
8 David Haye (England) 28-2
9 Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) 23-1
10 Joseph Parker (New Zealand) 20-0
Now klitschko, Stiverne and Haye have dropped out with Dillian Whyte, Jarrell Miller and Takam; with Usyk likely to be knocking on the door of Pulev shortly.
For me that leaves a number of great match ups still to happen both at top end and across the top ten!
The Heavyweight is about to enter a great age, maybe even another Golden age.
I feel bad for the people that don't enjoy the moment.
20 years from now people are going to say those Heavyweight's don't compare to the Heavyweight's of today. That's how it goes.
You have the current top three in Joshua, Fury, and Wilder.
Followed up by guys like Whyte, Ortiz, Miller, Parker, and Povetkin (has a few more fights) among others.
Prospects like: Joyce, Yoka, Hrgovic, Dychko, Ajagba, Jalolov (all 2016 Olympians by the way) among others. It has been a while since there was so many talented prospects coming up Heavyweight.
Finally, you have a P4P talent like Usyk coming up.
All of those guys won't be greats or even HOF's, but let's not act like all the boxers from the 70's and 90's were great or HOF's.
Of coarse they are!! fury already proved years ago wlad ain’t shat and that’s even been proved a decade before that! The 90s were so overblown it’s not even funny all those dudes got exposed this era is much better. I agree that the 60s-70s era was the Mecca but not those bums in the 90s wilder, fury, Johnson, and even jarrell miller would have their way with those 90s bums.
Yep, Johnson especially. Johnson would wipe the floor with Lanox, Hendrix and Myson in one night!
IMO Fury contributed to 2 things that will become boxing canon anyway and were momentous in terms of the sports history when people look back and that will be ending the Klitscho era and opening up the division for the next era to begin and that Wilder fight which would have been momentous even without the last round drama with the fact he actually made such a comeback. That alone puts it above the prior era which had nothing stand out other than the brothers dominance. Joshuas W over Klits will be defined better when he furthers his career. At the minute it's not clear to see how it will stand in time compared to the other 2 moments.
Not even close. Nobody watching the fight last weekend could make this claim. Watching wilder swing and miss wildly against an out of shape, powerless fury will make you quickly realize these are not the same caliber fighters than 90s and even 00s produced.
I'm really enjoying HW at the moment and there's still so many good fights to come. It's definitely underrated but that happens with most sports and this era matches many previous ones.
After the dirge of the K Bro era the last 2 or 3 years have been a breath of fresh air for the HW division, we've seen more entertaining HW fights in that time than we did in the previous decade, there's still a long way to go, but at least there's some real excitement around the division for the first time in a long time.
I'm not ready to define it yet BUT it's the most entertaining era since the 90's as far as personalities and action.
Joshua/Whyte
Joshua/Klitshcko
Wilder/Ortiz
Fury/Wilder
Whyte/Chisora
Were all excellent fights with great drama and a lot of good buildups and to think we've not seen Joshua/Fury and Joshua/Wilder yet, which figure to be even bigger and maybe even better than the others.
True, and we aren't even mentioning Lewis. The Wlad vs AJ fight kinda confirmed that already, then you have world champions like Parker struggling with Hughie Fury who is a bum version of Tyson.
Most big guys have different avenues in sport to pursue, plus MMA is big now. The talent pool just ain't there, and it shows
I'm not big on this argument. Big guys have always had other avenues. The NFL, NBA, MLB are nothing new. MMA pays nothing compared to boxing. Have you seen MMA HWs? Absolute stiffs.
That's my point, there's no fighter in history with those attributes, unless i'm wrong, someone please educate me?
I said this years ago when everyone thought Fury was a bum and i got laughed at.
I'm not saying Fury is the GOAT but i think he's a tough nights work for anyone, especially at his best, which i don't think he was on Saturday.
Valuev.
Only kidding, from another species.
I would disagree with that. Tyson was shot to shyt in the 90's. He beat up a bunch of bums and then was waxed by Holy and Lennox. Bowe was a one-hit wonder, same with Buster.
I would say Fury, Joshua, and Wilder have the chance to put up legacies as good as Lennox and Evander.
If 1 of those 3 beats the other 2 and everyone else, and retires undefeated, he might be an ATG. Right now the 3 show defects that indicate no ATG among the.
I don't think there's such a thing as a weak era. The top few in any era have to be excellent boxers.
I think the difference is the characters and whether the big fights get made.
In the 90s we got trilogies, rematches and Tyson's appeal looming over the division. But when you're including Riddick Bowe in your top 4 you must know there was some weakness in the division.
The post Lewis era is defined as weak because the brothers weren't that appealing. And of course the biggest fight of the era (ie between them) couldn't happen.
Right now we've got exciting fighters. We've got a one punch 'bad man' in Wilder. Fury is hugely talented and laugh a minute in his press conferences. AJ is a human wrecking ball. The supporting cast aren't bad either.
We just need to get the fights made and this era compares well.
I would say OVERRATING it more than anything just because Vitali and Wlad ERA was considered boring before this ERA. They was just levels above everybody else during their ERA while this ERA I think is a step back from them are far as SKILLS (other than Fury) so yeah it is more Interesting because the talent Level seems far more even as well as the SIZES of the fighters (as far as height goes as least) in this ERA for the most part. Compared to Vitali and Wlad not only being better than everybody in their ERA but also towering over them.
Nobody has pulled away from the Pack yet. Same with Welterweight in which it was Mayweather, Pacquiao and the rest for years, now things have even out as far as talent goes so people are intrigued by it so fans overrated that Division currently as well because of Intrigue.
Fury, the dude is 6'9", 85" reach, with huge boxing skills. Tell me that guy is going to struggle in any era. Come on..
That's my point, there's no fighter in history with those attributes, unless i'm wrong, someone please educate me?
I said this years ago when everyone thought Fury was a bum and i got laughed at.
I'm not saying Fury is the GOAT but i think he's a tough nights work for anyone, especially at his best, which i don't think he was on Saturday.
I think the likes of Fury, Wilder & Joshua would do well in any era. The size difference alone is a massive factor, these guys are giants.
Fury, the dude is 6'9", 85" reach, with huge boxing skills. Tell me that guy is going to struggle in any era. Come on..
I think the likes of Fury, Wilder & Joshua would do well in any era. The size difference alone is a massive factor, these guys are giants.
I COncur to an extent. fury Ian always the dark horse because he isn’t a real puncher so not sure if his size advantage is as big a gain for him.
Wilder for sure has a chance against tyson holyfield etc.
Joshua I would like to see against Fury and usyk to see how he fairs against a boxer of different style but he looks to have combination of boxing ability and power punch which has been rarely seen at heavyweight.
No greats since the era of Tyson, Holy and Lewis.
I would disagree with that. Tyson was shot to shyt in the 90's. He beat up a bunch of bums and then was waxed by Holy and Lennox. Bowe was a one-hit wonder, same with Buster.
I would say Fury, Joshua, and Wilder have the chance to put up legacies as good as Lennox and Evander.
There has been talk of the current era being poor and not entertaining. Is this opinion beginning to change? The last few years have seen some absolute crackers. Here’s a reminder of some; I’ve rated in my personal opinion of order of entertainment:
Joshua vs klitschko
Fury vs Wilder
Whyte vs Chisora
Chisora vs Takam
Wilder vs Ortiz
Whyte vs Parker
Haye vs Bellew
Bellew vs Haye2
Joshua vs Parker
Joshua vs Povetkin
Klitschko vs Fury
Let someone go back to after that klitschko fight and top10 was probably:
1 Tyson Fury (England) 25-0
2 Wladimir Klitschko (Ukraine) 64-4
3 Deontay Wilder (USA) 37-0
4 Alexander Povetkin (Russia) 30-1
5 Anthony Joshua (England) 17-0
6 Luis Ortiz (Cuba) 25-0-0-1
7 Bermane Stiverne (Haiti) 25-2-1
8 David Haye (England) 28-2
9 Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) 23-1
10 Joseph Parker (New Zealand) 20-0
Now klitschko, Stiverne and Haye have dropped out with Dillian Whyte, Jarrell Miller and Takam; with Usyk likely to be knocking on the door of Pulev shortly.
For me that leaves a number of great match ups still to happen both at top end and across the top ten!To each his own. I like some of the weight classes below heavyweight much more than today's heavyweights.