After last night's fight has your opinion on Usyk competing at Heavyweight changed or has it stayed the same?
I always felt that Usyk would do well at Heavyweight, but my confidence has increased.
"I see something."
I'm a big fan but i still think it'll be a struggle. Not to say i don't think he can't do it, he has the talent.
How would he really do against Fury. People might say Cunningham give Fury problems as an ex cruiserweight and Usyk is better than Cunningham, but Fury also improved a lot after that too. Also, Fury said he has problem with Cunningham's size and speed, but Usyk is actually a bit more methodical and takes his time, which is better for Fury in a way.
Let's remember what Fury did to the cruiserweight Cunningham when he trapped him on the ropes with his size, give him the only knockout of his career, and brutally. That was sheer size and strength difference.
Usyk is my favourite fighter right now but unless he could give Fury some sort of real boxing lesson (which i doubt he can), he won't beat Fury. For Usyk to have real success at heavyweight, it's going to have to be against flat footed fighters that he can move around easily.
I could see Usyk having success with AJ though. AJ is much stiffer and Usyk can probably do more of his work against a guy like that.
Wilder is Wilder. Usyk can give him a boxing lesson on skills alone like Fury did but if he gets caught...
Heavyweights fight at a much slower pace. Cruiserweights fight at a faster pace.
Usyk looks like a slow starter, but I think people say that because he doesn't throw as much as he does in the later rounds, but Usyk is testing his opponent in the beginning.
People don't see that though. They just see, "Well he isn't throwing 100 punches a round, so he must be losing."
With Wilder it'll be the story for anyone. If he catches someone it could be over. It's going to be the opponent's job to avoid that or to catch him first.
Usyk would beat Fury easily. Fight wouldn't even be competitive, I bet anything that Usyk knocks him out with a body shot in the first or second round. Only Wilder would have a change against Usyk due to his power.
Excuse me if I don't give your opinion any credit, after all you did post that Kovalev would become the greatest light heavyweight ever.
As for the topic, as good as Usyk is he flat out doesn't have the punching power to keep the big boys off him.
Last night told me nothing about Usyk. He will weigh same as wilder, but lack his power. That's not the best recipe for winning hw fights. If wilder didn't have that cross, fury would have laid on him and bullied him around for 6 rounds before knocking him out.
It's not all about power. That is where people are going wrong.
I would like to see these guys just try to corner Usyk. They will find it harder than what people think.
I feel like Usyk will do much better than most give him credit to do. If his chin holds up, I see him being the superior boxer against definitely Wilder, and maybe even Joshua and Fury.
He will definitely be the best boxer at Heavyweight, including Fury.
They talk before they think, we haven't even seen him at HW yet. He's jusy unified the CW division and he's the same height as Ortiz and weight as Wilder, pretty much, arguably got better skills than any HW but they're writing him off.
Wilders easily outboxed and isn't gone be able to rely on Usyks engine gassing out to get the knockout.
Fury is not gonna be able to outsmart him so easily as they both have great ring IQ's. I didn't see how his stamina held up against Wilder but it sounds like their wasn't a lot of punches so my guess is Fury may be able to be out worked.
AJ can be outboxed as well although not quite as easily as Wilder.
They're all vunerable beating Usyk is not a certainty at all at this point.
Yeah, I can't blame them though, because we haven't seen Usyk at Heavyweight. It's still a mystery.
Heavyweights historically are so vulnerable in certain areas. That is why smaller guys have moved up and caused them problems.
People only mention power, but Usyk will have advantages in almost everything else.
How good of a punch can Usyk take? He will be undersized and based on the Bellew fight, I'm not sure how many Heavyweight rights he can take, especially from Wilder and Joshua.
He will do his best not to take them.
It's the punches you don't see that hurt you.
Wilder punches are quite telegraphed, and its only the right hand you have to really worry about.
If Fury makes Wilder look so bad, only landing 17% of this punches, What will Usyk do to Wilder?
Precisely. I don't see Usyk knocking guys slam out but he WILL figure them out and break them down over the long haul. He'd move in on Wilder and obliterate his body, slow him down and tag him at will. Who knows how long it would go, maybe the distance but Wilder would get outpunched so badly that his corner might even toss in the towel.
After last night's fight has your opinion on Usyk competing at Heavyweight changed or has it stayed the same?
I always felt that Usyk would do well at Heavyweight, but my confidence has increased.
"I see something."
Give him 2-3 fights against top 10/15 competiton and he'll be able to beat any of them barring AJ. AJ is just technical enough and has enough power to put Usyk down but against the two we saw last night, lol....he'll pick em to pieces.
How good of a punch can Usyk take? He will be undersized and based on the Bellew fight, I'm not sure how many Heavyweight rights he can take, especially from Wilder and Joshua.
I'm a big fan but i still think it'll be a struggle. Not to say i don't think he can't do it, he has the talent.
How would he really do against Fury. People might say Cunningham give Fury problems as an ex cruiserweight and Usyk is better than Cunningham, but Fury also improved a lot after that too. Also, Fury said he has problem with Cunningham's size and speed, but Usyk is actually a bit more methodical and takes his time, which is better for Fury in a way.
Let's remember what Fury did to the cruiserweight Cunningham when he trapped him on the ropes with his size, give him the only knockout of his career, and brutally. That was sheer size and strength difference.
Usyk is my favourite fighter right now but unless he could give Fury some sort of real boxing lesson (which i doubt he can), he won't beat Fury. For Usyk to have real success at heavyweight, it's going to have to be against flat footed fighters that he can move around easily.
I could see Usyk having success with AJ though. AJ is much stiffer and Usyk can probably do more of his work against a guy like that.
Wilder is Wilder. Usyk can give him a boxing lesson on skills alone like Fury did but if he gets caught...
Last night told me nothing about Usyk. He will weigh same as wilder, but lack his power. That's not the best recipe for winning hw fights. If wilder didn't have that cross, fury would have laid on him and bullied him around for 6 rounds before knocking him out.
After last night's fight has your opinion on Usyk competing at Heavyweight changed or has it stayed the same?
I always felt that Usyk would do well at Heavyweight, but my confidence has increased.
"I see something."
I feel like Usyk will do much better than most give him credit to do. If his chin holds up, I see him being the superior boxer against definitely Wilder, and maybe even Joshua and Fury.
People think these guys will walk down Usyk easily.
Usyk has sensational footwork. Not good footwork, but sensational footwork.
They talk before they think, we haven't even seen him at HW yet. He's jusy unified the CW division and he's the same height as Ortiz and weight as Wilder, pretty much, arguably got better skills than any HW but they're writing him off.
Wilders easily outboxed and isn't gone be able to rely on Usyks engine gassing out to get the knockout.
Fury is not gonna be able to outsmart him so easily as they both have great ring IQ's. I didn't see how his stamina held up against Wilder but it sounds like their wasn't a lot of punches so my guess is Fury may be able to be out worked.
AJ can be outboxed as well although not quite as easily as Wilder.
They're all vunerable beating Usyk is not a certainty at all at this point.
I don't think he's ready for the top 3 guys at the weight: Fury, Wilder and Ortiz. Jarrell Miller is also maybe too big but he might be able to just outbox him to a decision if he stays on the outside all night. I think he can do damage a little lower in the pecking order and can beat the Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker or Dillian Whyte type guys.
Going to be interesting to see who they have Usyk fight first at Heavyweight.
Usyk would beat Fury easily. Fight wouldn't even be competitive, I bet anything that Usyk knocks him out with a body shot in the first or second round. Only Wilder would have a change against Usyk due to his power.
I think Usyk can do a number on Wilder. Of course Wilder's power is something he has to be extremely careful about.
Wilder has scary power.
Neither fight would be easy. Fury will not be able to do some of the things he does against Usyk though.
Fury said he struggled with Cunningham because he was being outboxed.
Usyk will give him trouble
Plus Fury doesn't destroy anyone he just boxes them.
People think these guys will walk down Usyk easily.
Usyk has sensational footwork. Not good footwork, but sensational footwork.
Firy would destroy him.
I don't know about that. I think Usyk will have a very good chance of beating Fury. People are going to call me crazy, but like I said, "I see something."
We obviously need to see how Usyk looks at Heavyweight first, but I'm starting to get the feeling he will do more than good.