Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Brainwashed, Will Regret Not Taking $50 Million

I think you wrap yourself in circles. You spend a lot of time discrediting Wilder and calling him overrated, yet you rate him #2. The rest of your list is perfectly reasonable. AJ fought Whyte and Povetkin; Wilder fought Ortiz and would have fought and beaten Povetkin if Povetkin didn't get caught cheating again. The true, non-biased fans of the world demand that AJ and Wilder fight after their next fights, but you and the rest of the silly AJ fanbase spend your days coming up with creative (and nonsensical) reasons why AJ can and should avoid this guy and spend the next 5 years fighting no-hopers for $20 million apiece. I don't disgredit wilder...he is what he is a dangerous puncher who is also very unconventional in his style and i have said from day one he beats fury. What i do slate him for is thinking he is bigger than what he is and untill he can equal joshua in terms of revenue , resume and belts he is firmly placed as the B side and untill he drops his stupid 50/50 demands he will get ridiculed by me. That still won't get over the fact that when they finally do meet joshua breaks him in half. He has been offered a shot at the champion with the most belts and for 6 times his highest purse and now has even been offered a percentage for the fight but he still has this deluded notion that he deserves 50/50 against joshua and yet the american heavyweight has 10% of the bargaining power that joshua has. If wilder and fury did manage to sell 750k ppv then he can shout for more percentage but i think we both know he is whitsling down the wind and will not make anywhere near that total come saturday. Wilder needs to get back to reality which is he is the B side. In fact i hate that word really but that is the basic facts right there. Ive never said joshua should not fight him , ive just said widler needs to know his place instesd of lliving in dream land. The offer is on the table for wilder to fight joshua so who is exactly not wanting to fight. Its only right the top dog gets to chose where this fight takes place and this fight is bigger in the uk than the states and will sell out a 90k stadium in 2 hours. Wilder needs joshua more than joshua needs him and thats a fact to

Welll before joshua beat parker or povetkin i can pretty much say they were in the top 5.....povetkin only lost to klitchcko and parker was a world champion but i guess that don't matter to you seeing as now they both have been beaten handily by joshua lol. Now i say its 1 joshua 2 wilder 3 split between whyte and ortiz 5 povetkin Fury beating a spiteri or pianeta who were both ranked lower than 120 in world will not in my opinion make him break the top 5. Fury is nowhere near ready for wilder and we will see that saturday. Thats pretty much me wrapping you up in circles I think you wrap yourself in circles. You spend a lot of time discrediting Wilder and calling him overrated, yet you rate him #2. The rest of your list is perfectly reasonable. AJ fought Whyte and Povetkin; Wilder fought Ortiz and would have fought and beaten Povetkin if Povetkin didn't get caught cheating again. The true, non-biased fans of the world demand that AJ and Wilder fight after their next fights, but you and the rest of the silly AJ fanbase spend your days coming up with creative (and nonsensical) reasons why AJ can and should avoid this guy and spend the next 5 years fighting no-hopers for $20 million apiece.

Right. Who exactly is in your list of top 5 heavyweights? Welll before joshua beat parker or povetkin i can pretty much say they were in the top 5.....povetkin only lost to klitchcko and parker was a world champion but i guess that don't matter to you seeing as now they both have been beaten handily by joshua lol. Now i say its 1 joshua 2 wilder 3 split between whyte and ortiz 5 povetkin Fury beating a spiteri or pianeta who were both ranked lower than 120 in world will not in my opinion make him break the top 5. Fury is nowhere near ready for wilder and we will see that saturday. Thats pretty much me wrapping you up in circles

before he has to step up ? Are you taking the piss gumbo. Joshua has beaten klitchcko,povetkin,parker,whyte Wilder has beaten ortiz,spilka,washington,stiverne,duhaupas. Your another idiot who should sit in the corner of the classroom with a dunce hat on lol Right. Who exactly is in your list of top 5 heavyweights?

AJ only has 22 fights and already has several bigger names on his resume. Realistically, he can fight Miller, Ortiz, either of the Fury Bros. and maybe even rematch Wlad if he decides to come back again. There are four or five fights he can make and earn over $100M in the next two years. Wilder on the other hand, has twice as many fights and only two recognized opponents, Ortiz and Fury. If he fights any of the guys I listed above, as well as Whyte, Breazeale or Parker, he still only earns a total of about $20 - 25M if he's lucky. Like I said, AJ is young, has half as many fights and is a huge earner. He doesn't need Wilder if his end-game is money. For legacy yes, but if big pay days are his primary focus, he's all set for the next 4 or 5 fights without Wilder. You don't listen or reason very well. Honestly, I have never seen a fan scramble as much as you do to justify his fighter not fighting his main rival. Pathetic. https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/b5391be5-7173-4d15-b8f9-7ba3842eaf75

"I’ve knocked out the number two guy, and now I’m going for the number three" In what universe is Ortiz better than Fury? or AJ. Why is he so heralded now?

Wilder still begging for the money lol.. he should accept the 15m$ if he so sure of beating AJ without hesitating... i just hope Fury doesn’t ruined his career because hearn will come with 5m if fury should beat him road block

The man who makes 2.1m per fight says the man who makes 20m per fight is brainwashed,I don't get it. Yeah i don't get that.

The Brits wants him to take two more tune ups lmaoo who takes 4 tuneups? Pathetic if you ask me He should relinquish to titles if hes not ready to be a champion. Pathetic.

Once Joshua continues to fight at home, the fan-girl hysteria with their cashed paychecks in tow, will always help Joshua to re-focus on fighting his regular lot of Hearn fed cows.....50mil? What 50 mil??

Joshua can only "regret" being scared of Wilder longer than he shouldve been.....But as for regretting not taking the 50mil? Nah, Hearn can set up 2 massage therapists for back to back fights - followed by another 2 fight deal with 2 dentists and AJ will still make out like a bandit!

Wilder does need to be reasonable but so does team an. And to be honest 50% is more reasonable than 20 flat. But money shouldn't be a hold up. Aj is on record saying he doesn't care about money. Wilder brings more to the table than given credit. But I'm not into their financials, I have a hard of enough time trying to keep up with mine......youre last point, no question Aj is more technically sound, but what he lacks will play in to wilder strengths wilders faults will almost certainly play into Joshua’s as well...clean straight and counters with power...we are not talking about a Spilka or Washington here...we’re talking about the technically hardest punching heavyweight in the world who if wilder lunges in arms flailing everywhere and misses will get countered put to sleep quickly and clinically. Wilder was getting knocked out by Ortiz if it was not for extra help from the ref even when he had a minute to recover...he won’t be so lucky with Joshua when he finally faces him

The Fury fight is a great move, ONLY if Wilder wins convincingly and the event is a success (+200-300K PPV sales in the US for Wilder's 1st PPV). Wilder's team made a great business decision, not taking the Joshua fight for what Hearn offered, but they made a serious miscalculation taking the Fury fight (they should've fought Brezeale). From my analysis, Fury's going to win or lose controversially; either way, he's going to frustrate Wilder and it won't look good for him.

Vegas didn't even pickup this fight... you honestly expect something like Wilder vs Breazeale (a fight which has to happen soon) to be shown in Vegas and on PPV? If MGM Resorts had T-Mobile Arena or MGM Grand free when Wilder-Fury was set to go, the fight would've ended up in Las Vegas. Don't kid yourself. Wilder-Ortiz 2 has enough energy behind it to carry a PPV, and once Wilder breaks through, The Deontay Wilder Show (Wilder-TBA) becomes a likely PPV attraction for however much longer he stays champion.

Most crying here like they don't want the fight. This is the biggest fight that can be made and you have people crying here about finances. Both guys are taking the best available opposition. If Wilder wins that is the only fight that matters at HW.

500k PPV buys, at $65/$75, puts $17m into the pot, MGM Resorts hosting the heavyweight champion of the world could easily be worth $10m, and BT Sport likely pays a decent price to have a Heavyweight champion featured on their channel too. You add the extra interest from Canada for "The Champ" (an additional PPV market also in primetime), and the other revenues (merch, event sponsors, Fathom Events, the rest of the international TV, etc) the pot on a Wilder fight can easily be expected to get to $40m, going forward. Lol Vegas didn't even pickup this fight... you honestly expect something like Wilder vs Breazeale (a fight which has to happen soon) to be shown in Vegas and on PPV?

the offer is on the table for wilder in april in wembley for more money than he is ever likely to earn.....the fury fight will certainly not earn him the $20 million he has been offered to sign to fight joshua. When the wilder fury fight lowballs and makes less than 300k buys i'm curious how wilders team can spin it. Joshua has consistently beaten better and better opponents and klitchcko and povetkin i believe would have knocked wilder into tomorrow. Wilder needs to be reasonable with his demands and the fight will get made....if he keeps on asking for 50% and he is not bringing equal amounts to the table then its wilders own doing if the fight don't get made. I think you know deep down joshua will put one on wilder if the fight takes place...joshua has proven time and time again he will beat world class opponents....that will continue when he knocks wilder out Wilder does need to be reasonable but so does team an. And to be honest 50% is more reasonable than 20 flat. But money shouldn't be a hold up. Aj is on record saying he doesn't care about money. Wilder brings more to the table than given credit. But I'm not into their financials, I have a hard of enough time trying to keep up with mine......youre last point, no question Aj is more technically sound, but what he lacks will play in to wilder strengths

No one? So no one wanted to see him fight Takam? Takam took the fight on short notice and they still had over 75K fans. Joshus earned over $15M. You think no one would pay or show up for Miller, Ortiz, Fury, or a Wlad rematch? Come on man. Like I said before, if AJ cares more about money than legacy (as most fighters do today) then he can go two more years without fighting Wilder and still earn $100M or more in that time. Wilder will be lucky to sniff 20% of that. And if Wilder was so concerned about legacy, why the hell did it take him 40 fights before he fought a legit contender? Ok you got me. When I said no one I didn't mean LITERALY. Kinda like when people said "no one want a to see maywesther vs beto . People still atteneted and ordered hia dighr, but his numbers took a hit Sure some people will go to/ order his fights. but his numbers will dwindle.The people you mentioned are still credible fights. But like the crowd chanted after the Takam fight, they were chatting wilder. They want that fight. And they booed Hearn so they aren't going to be patient long. And even if he DOES make 100 mil 200 mil his next fights without wilder. As a fan I care about fighters legacy.. I couldn't give 1 a hot about their money. I don't count I don't spend. Hell there's no guarantee he will have his fortune forever. And to logical An said he doesn't care about money so why would you or I care about HIS money. So if he starts taking fighta for money, then you shouldnt bor could you defend him. I dont measure a man in dollars. Maywesther has a ton of money amd not many people think high of me Fortunes come ans go Tyson lost his, but Tyson Legacy last forever. As far as Aj goes right now he's the guy that turned down the exact number he asked for. Right now he's the guy that said "that the fans should fight him"if he fights any one but wilder next it will be a a dark apt on his legacy. And that's what you measure a man by

Joshua will make that in his next two fights. How many fights will Wilder have to make after Fury to earn $15M? 500k PPV buys, at $65/$75, puts $17m into the pot, MGM Resorts hosting the heavyweight champion of the world could easily be worth $10m, and BT Sport likely pays a decent price to have a Heavyweight champion featured on their channel too. You add the extra interest from Canada for "The Champ" (an additional PPV market also in primetime), and the other revenues (merch, event sponsors, Fathom Events, the rest of the international TV, etc) the pot on a Wilder fight can easily be expected to get to $40m, going forward. Lol

The Brits wants him to take two more tune ups lmaoo who takes 4 tuneups? Pathetic if you ask me No more tune ups. Wilders gonna have 9 months since his last fight and fury 4 plus Vitali beat the WBC champion after 4 years inactivity and no tune ups. So it's do or die