Ok GGG fans and Canelo haters!

Talks of such paranoia providing the basis for the change in plans was categorically denied by event handlers, who’ve confirmed that testing of some level will still occur for this bout. “Really, there’s no story here,” insists Gomez. “This time we will do any and all testing required by Texas and the WBO (World Boxing Organization, whose title Smith owns).” Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the auspices of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing. My point was he was enrolled in VADA and regardless of the exact testing he was still tested for Liam Smith fight as it is stated here. And he was enrolled and took twice as many test for VADA for the second GGG fight. Regardless of what happened after the fight he took all required test and took many more then normal do to the issue in February. So has Canelo ever tested dirty for a fight? Fact remains No he has not.[/QUOTE He failed that test while he was an active boxer signed for a fight. He also declined to take VADA testing when he was under suspension. He also did not do Vada testing for the Smith fight.

Dude you ate a illiterate dumbass saying that. Canelo did not avoid testing for Smith as he was on a 365/7 testing schedule for VADA during that fight. Then for the ,2nd fight with GGG he took 5x as many test before the fight and all asked for test before and after. Quit acting retarded!! https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=721187

#1. You said Canelo never dropped Vada. That is incorrect. He was not enrolled in VADA for the Smith fight. That is not being paranoid that is stating the facts. #2. Yes Canelo he's been tested and he did not pass while prepping for the Golovkin fight. So he as you put he tested dirty.. No he was not. The fight had been set but Canelo was not in camp! Canelo again has never failed a test for a fight. Canelo nor any fighter are in camp 3 months or more out for a fight. He was in year round testing when he failed that test for trace amounts nothing that could or would be beneficial. He did not copped out of v a d a testing for Smith but whatever the case was neither of them were in testing for that fight on the v a d a program. I can only assume that after the WBC fight Canelo had he dropped out of there testing because he was not going to fight for a WBC title anymore because he was rather pissed with them. I don't truly know all the circumstances leading up to the Liam Smith fight. But Canelo as a whole has been enrolled in VADA testing sense 2011. Is there sometimes that he was not enrolled with them apparently so. But the fact remains that Canelo never came up before or after a fight for PEDs. And clenbuterol once again is a weight cutting agent and would be the last thing a fighter moving up 6lbs and another weight class would need 3 months out lmfao. Point is as I have stated there is all this one sided hate trying to discredit Canelo. Fact is he is a great fighter and people need to give him a fair shake. Granted if he beat the world some will always say he has not beat Elvis and that is my point.

Talks of such paranoia providing the basis for the change in plans was categorically denied by event handlers, who’ve confirmed that testing of some level will still occur for this bout. “Really, there’s no story here,” insists Gomez. “This time we will do any and all testing required by Texas and the WBO (World Boxing Organization, whose title Smith owns).” Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the auspices of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing. My point was he was enrolled in VADA and regardless of the exact testing he was still tested for Liam Smith fight as it is stated here. And he was enrolled and took twice as many test for VADA for the second GGG fight. Regardless of what happened after the fight he took all required test and took many more then normal do to the issue in February. So has Canelo ever tested dirty for a fight? Fact remains No he has not. #1. You said Canelo never dropped Vada. That is incorrect. He was not enrolled in VADA for the Smith fight. That is not being paranoid that is stating the facts. #2. Yes Canelo he's been tested and he did not pass while prepping for the Golovkin fight. So he as you put he tested dirty..

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-smith-no-longer-vada-testing-no-cause-concern--108188 Talks of such paranoia providing the basis for the change in plans was categorically denied by event handlers, who’ve confirmed that testing of some level will still occur for this bout. “Really, there’s no story here,” insists Gomez. “This time we will do any and all testing required by Texas and the WBO (World Boxing Organization, whose title Smith owns).” Alvarez was previously enrolled in VADA while serving as the WBC (World Boxing Council) – and lineal – middleweight champion, as part of the sanctioning body’s Clean Boxing Program. All bouts under the auspices of the WBC now require VADA-run random drug testing. My point was he was enrolled in VADA and regardless of the exact testing he was still tested for Liam Smith fight as it is stated here. And he was enrolled and took twice as many test for VADA for the second GGG fight. Regardless of what happened after the fight he took all required test and took many more then normal do to the issue in February. So has Canelo ever tested dirty for a fight? Fact remains No he has not.

He did not drop VADA till he tested positive for clenbuterol. He never stopped before that. He is calling Floyd out at 160 because he does have issues trying to make 154 and he is 160 pound champion holding major belts and is the person to beat at 160. Floyd got him to agree to a 2lb under catch-weight for the fight at 154-152. Canelo said he would never drain himself again for a fight and why would he? He is the A side now and what is there to gain for Canelo dropping to 154? Zero! But if Floyd goes up to challenge Canelo for the middle weight championship that's another weight class Floyd can put on his record but will not because he knows Canelo is a much better fighter today and biggest reason in my opinion is that very loss to Floyd changed Canelo's outlook and made him a much better fighter. Canelo will meet him at 157-160 but he will not drop to low to give Floyd the advantages he had in the first fight and to fight for the belts they have to fight at at least 155 or above. Floyd will not fight Canelo for one reason. Canelo will beat him today and he knows that much. https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-smith-no-longer-vada-testing-no-cause-concern--108188

He dropped VADA when he had to get to under 154 for Smith. Now he's calling out Floyd and saying he has to fight at 160 because he can't cut weight. He did not drop VADA till he tested positive for clenbuterol. He never stopped before that. He is calling Floyd out at 160 because he does have issues trying to make 154 and he is 160 pound champion holding major belts and is the person to beat at 160. Floyd got him to agree to a 2lb under catch-weight for the fight at 154-152. Canelo said he would never drain himself again for a fight and why would he? He is the A side now and what is there to gain for Canelo dropping to 154? Zero! But if Floyd goes up to challenge Canelo for the middle weight championship that's another weight class Floyd can put on his record but will not because he knows Canelo is a much better fighter today and biggest reason in my opinion is that very loss to Floyd changed Canelo's outlook and made him a much better fighter. Canelo will meet him at 157-160 but he will not drop to low to give Floyd the advantages he had in the first fight and to fight for the belts they have to fight at at least 155 or above. Floyd will not fight Canelo for one reason. Canelo will beat him today and he knows that much.

LMAO!! Ok well let's start here. People keep claiming Canelo cheated!! Fact remains he was 100% clean for both fights! That's my point. People try to make excuses for Canelo beating there buddy but fact remains Canelo beat GGG on skill nothing else. He dropped VADA when he had to get to under 154 for Smith. Now he's calling out Floyd and saying he has to fight at 160 because he can't cut weight.

He failed the test because the banned substance was in his system. You can argue whether it was intentional or not but it completely threw a monkey wrench into the rematch. Your right that Canelo has never been small. That's probably why he fought numerous times over the JM limit. LMAO!! Ok well let's start here. People keep claiming Canelo cheated!! Fact remains he was 100% clean for both fights! That's my point. People try to make excuses for Canelo beating there buddy but fact remains Canelo beat GGG on skill nothing else.

OK just for the record Im saying Golovkin won both fights and numerous boxing experts agree. And I'm saying it's not a opinion but a fact he did not by boxing judges!! Also just as many you claim say GGG won say he lost! So the record stands as GGG didn't win either and clearly lost one without question.

Except the Smith fight. And when he had signed up recently and failed. Dodged the second test. Dude you ate a illiterate dumbass saying that. Canelo did not avoid testing for Smith as he was on a 365/7 testing schedule for VADA during that fight. Then for the ,2nd fight with GGG he took 5x as many test before the fight and all asked for test before and after. Quit acting retarded!!

I respect that. Now let's get Canelo v Jacobs and ggg v charlo! Golovkin will probably lose the next fight with Canelo. He will be 37 and lose just a little bit more reflexes plus he doesn't have a clinching style like Hopkins.

OK just for the record Im saying Golovkin won both fights and numerous boxing experts agree. I respect that. Now let's get Canelo v Jacobs and ggg v charlo!

I believe and the drug test show he was clean for both!! LMAO! When he tested positive for clenbuterol he was not in camp! He has never tested positive for a fight or camp but is and has been in year round testing sense 2011. For those saying he is smaller for the second fight??!!! Your clueless to what you are talking about. Clenbuterol is a weight CUTTING agent not a mass producing PED! At least learn about the drug your claiming him to be cheating on. So if he was taking clenbuterol he would be skinnier not thicker!! Learn before you speak. So the 1st fight Canelo was clean as drug test process that. For the 2nd fight test process he was clean then to. Canelo's first fight at 160 was against GGG. So he learned which way he needed his body to be for the 2nd fight. Had nothing in the world to do with PEDs. He didn't have great stamina for the first fight so he chose not to put to much muscle on for the 2nd. That is the only reason he was lighter. Canelo walks around at 180-185lbs. He is not small never has been. Think he was gaining close to 20lbs as a 154lber between weigh-in and fight night. He failed the test because the banned substance was in his system. You can argue whether it was intentional or not but it completely threw a monkey wrench into the rematch. Your right that Canelo has never been small. That's probably why he fought numerous times over the JM limit.

You just said he lost by four round yet you state the judges gave him a draw!! LMAO. I said Canelo didn't lose any fight with GGG and GGG didn't win any fight with Canelo. I said in my opinion Canelo beat him twice and that some other experts said he won the first fight as well. Being the Mayweathers saying g Canelo won among others. I said for fact though Canelo didn't lose either!! OK just for the record Im saying Golovkin won both fights and numerous boxing experts agree.

Except the Smith fight. And when he had signed up recently and failed. Dodged the second test. Quit the BS Canelo took test leading up to Smith fight. He only stopped VADA when he failed and got banned for like a month or two and rejoined when he quit being pissed off at them. I would have done the same thing. So again your not being real. Canelo is a clean fighter and has always been. The test was months out and not in a training camp had it been a serious matter it was months out giving him not one ounce of benefit. He doesn't need to cheat and nobody but God knows for sure what the deal was but in either case he was spotless for the first and second fight and he embarrassed GGG at his own game. He bullied the bully. They begged Canelo to stand and trade well he did that but what happened to GGG. He ran as you fellows call it or I call it boxing but GGG was back peddling not Canelo.

I saw a fight that was hard for Mayweather but he still won 8-4 imo and destroyed Castillo in the rematch. Castillo didn't get robbed. Stop the emotions... Even if it was close, Mayweather won, he's undefeated, he made a ton of money. Castillo lost again. If you saw that fight and say this then your talking 100% out your ass. Any boxing expert or writer or boxer period will tell you Floyd clearly lost the first fight. You are clearly acting like a kid or you need a serious boxing lesson. Castillo out landed Floyd by double the amount yet you think he lost 8-4 😂🤣😂🤣😂. I see exactly what I'm dealing with here! What is your IQ? Has to be under 80 because you are clearly mentally Fuc-ed

I agree but the problem is about race simple as that, it never use to be this bad but over the last few years certain fans have come along rooting for a fighter strictly because of race and they start bs like “oh is this guy the greatest ever” yet those same fools just started watching boxing a few years ago. Most of those type of fans are Loma, ggg, kova etc fans. This place never use to be this bad but like I said it’s gotten pretty bad and it’s hard for you not to get drawn into it. Well said!! Seems like more and more idiots join the board. Look at how many post I have sense I started in 2009!! I'm not here to bash people or talk ****. I'm not a groupie either. Again I love boxing as a whole. I do like Canelo. He is one of my favorite current boxers but by no means am I being biased to his performance. If they lose they lose, if they win they win. People need to be more opened minded. Bashing someone because he beat your fighter or because you dislike him is not right and shows your maturity! For those acting like 5 year olds Grow Up!!

You said Canelo won both fights but then quote the judges as proof. They gave Canelo a draw in the first fight in which he lost by 4 rounds. You just said he lost by four round yet you state the judges gave him a draw!! LMAO. I said Canelo didn't lose any fight with GGG and GGG didn't win any fight with Canelo. I said in my opinion Canelo beat him twice and that some other experts said he won the first fight as well. Being the Mayweathers saying g Canelo won among others. I said for fact though Canelo didn't lose either!!

I believe and the drug test show he was clean for both!! LMAO! When he tested positive for clenbuterol he was not in camp! He has never tested positive for a fight or camp but is and has been in year round testing sense 2011. Except the Smith fight. And when he had signed up recently and failed. Dodged the second test.