Lots of people sure about the outcome of this fight.... but how can you be when not even knowing the stance of one fighter?
Interesting video of Woodhall and Moore breaking down this fight which shows Wilder struggling with Ortiz, and even Fury being open to right hands.
Is Fury's best chance to keep distance in the southpaw stance until Wilder gets frustrated, then step it up in orthodox?
How will Wilder deal with a taller, mobile and rangier opponent in southpaw with great distance control... possibly switching stances every time they get in the corner or get tied up?
Sorry man, I thought you were mocking in your post.
Have no fear, Fury will deliver next week.... Wilder is gona get his face jabbed in and he will look stupid in there.
I can’t see it. It will be an unbelievable feat if he does but I just can’t see him doing it. He has a good jab but it’s a flicking frustrating sort of jab
Son, I can't help you if you are stupid. Ain't nothing I can do to fix it.
I've taken Marciano off the board. You're still ducking. Now projecting and ducking.
Grow you a pair or go away.
Oh, Marciano is off the board now? but you made the comparison in your first reply... sorry, you "highlighted" Marciano hahahahaha
What am I ducking? genuine question here. What IS your point or question to me?
I will respond to ANYthing you put to me.
hey, my heart is with Fury, I don't want to see this fool Wilder win.
But remember how he was helped by the REF against Ortiz? And how his rabbit punches were all of a sudden legal?
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Sorry man, I thought you were mocking in your post.
Have no fear, Fury will deliver next week.... Wilder is gona get his face jabbed in and he will look stupid in there.
What you are failing to grasp is Fury has never been 100%, not even for the Wlad fight.
I'll take a Fury that has trained for 1 year over any other version of him.
hey, my heart is with Fury, I don't want to see this fool Wilder win.
But remember how he was helped by the REF against Ortiz? And how his rabbit punches were all of a sudden legal?
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The **** is wrong with you?
Explain to me how anything you said negates in anyway to what I said to you.
Marciano won mismatches - Marciano fought better comp - ok but he did win those mismatches - Marciano fought better comp - They were considered mismatches though - Marciano fought better comp.
It doesn't make any ****ing sense son. What you're saying does not detract from my point. It doesn't even address it.
How about I take Marciano's name out?
Plenty have won boxing mismatches before now.
You going to tell me plenty had better comp now? That makes sense to you does it? :lol1:
Again..... you deflect.
How about staying on point and replying to my post about Wilder/Fury?
This is actually making me LOL now.... you're desperately defending for no reason.
"I didn't draw the comparison I highlighted it" was the funniest...... like you just drew the comparison for no reason and didn't counter any of my points, then claimed that you only highlighted it (which is drawing the comparison btw)
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Old Fury, anything, this Fury, Flat on the floor?
What you are failing to grasp is Fury has never been 100%, not even for the Wlad fight.
I'll take a Fury that has trained for 1 year over any other version of him.
His best bet would be to stay in the southpaw stance but throw selected orthadox punches from that stance
if he keeps range and stays southpaw he has some chance to take wilders straight right away.
I know this is reaching, but if you follow Tyson he actually tells you how he is going to win before the fight, during interviews.
He's going to fight southpaw and counter with the left hand to the body, like an uppercut motion.
I can't find the video or I'd link it.... he done one similar before the Klitschko fight with Johnny Nelson.
I actually think that be should stay comfortable and natural in a conventional stance. Against a twitchy, instinctive power puncher like Wilder, Fury needs to stay alert and if he isnt capable of fighting instinctively as a southpaw,he could get caught and the right hand is southpaw’s cryptonite.
Fury needs to fight in a style that’s most comfortable to him cuz he needs to box perfectly to beat wilder.
But what is fighting comfortably for Fury? that's what I'm trying to figure out....
The right hand is cryptonite to a southpaw, yes, if you leave yourself open and fight offensively like Pacquaio. If you're defensive and control distance it's literally impossible to land the right without over-committing.
Fury has the height and reach advantage and can control distance, he's also got quick feet. If he fights southpaw and defensively then Wilder will not get the right off at all... IMO.
The times Fury has stood in combat range with Wilder leading up to the bout, I noticed he favored the southpaw stance when he got in range to throw a punch. I wonder though, if Fury will use his weight with Wilder on the ropes. If Fury picks angles and lands a corkscrew at range, Wilder will clinch more than likely rather than run and try to survive that way. Fury will probably headbutt or low blow, and the rest will be history. I expect quality Fury infighting - better than before. Im assuming he picked up on tips from Vianello, one of his big bear sparring partner who is a master at punching up close. He's like a hw porter.
I have said a few times on here that Fury will fight inside a lot and that could be his way to victory.
Fury wins outside, but that gives Wilder a chance to get his right hand off. If Fury clinches and starts punching inside and getting off combo's..... welcome to Fury land lol
Never knew much about Vianello to be honest, but I'll take your word for it.
It isn't a difficult concept I outlined.
I don't think anything you've said in this particular post in anyway works against my claim....seems to endorse it actually. I think you are either lost or grasping at straws.
Let us recap:
I say Wilder's going to hurt Fury
You tell me Wilder/Fury, in boxing terms, is a mismatch.
I tell you Marciano's fights were considered boxing mismatches
Now you are telling me Marciano fought better men than Wilder has as if that detracts from me claiming Marciano's fights were boxing mismatches.
I can assure you, you putting over Marciano's resume does not help your argument son.
A quick glance at Marciano's record will show he fought stiff opposition after 20 fights. Roland LaStarza 37-0.... of course boxing was different then, you had guys fighting continuously and fighting weeks apart, so even the guys on Marciano's record that had a lot of losses were actually tough and hard to beat.
Look at Wilder's record and you will find it's similar (if you don't take into account the era and how boxing was at that time). Wilder has fought guys on short notice as well but they are even worse!
BTW, I said THIS fight is a mismatch in boxing terms and your immediate response is to bring up a fighter from the 50's..... lol
I actually think that be should stay comfortable and natural in a conventional stance. Against a twitchy, instinctive power puncher like Wilder, Fury needs to stay alert and if he isnt capable of fighting instinctively as a southpaw,he could get caught and the right hand is southpaw’s cryptonite.
Fury needs to fight in a style that’s most comfortable to him cuz he needs to box perfectly to beat wilder.
You used the same criticisms that used to be aimed at Marciano. I didn't draw the comparison I highlighted it.
You ended this post with a Marciano criticism too....so....49-0 is still a fair response.
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When you can think of a criticism that wasn't applied to Marciano I'll stop using his record as a shield. Until then the **** you are saying has been disproven. The only unbeaten HW champion of all time didn't know much boxing himself and he did just fine.
Wow... don't know where to start ripping this post to shreds lol
OK, you obviously drew attention to the record..... Marciano fought much better opponents and is 10 times the fighter Wilder is.
End of.
Wilder has fought ONE good opponent in 40 fights for f**k sake
49-0 all mismatches in boxing terms.
49-0... what? lol
lets not try and compare Marciano to Wilder please.
He's away to get beat by the first boxer that is in shape and proven.
After Wilder puts him in the hospital I hope his family keeps an eye on him.
Prepare yourself for Wilder not landing anything and getting totally outboxed.
Wilder is a fool and a **** boxer.... his only hope is one punch.... think about that for a second... his only chance of winning is a clean KO punch or a buzz and windmill and hope the ref jumps in.
Wilder/Fury, in boxing terms, is a mismatch.